Should James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Get The Death Penalty??

JJayoo · 27-07-2012 02:32AM

Which ever is the cheapest.

oranbhoy67 · 27-07-2012 02:35AM

I believe we should learn what we can from him also....

Then dispose of him like the piece of sub-human garbage that he is, perhaps keep his abnormal brain for more research as they did with Ted bundy?.

Sir Gallagher · 27-07-2012 02:39AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Exactly what could they learn from him?
What could they learn that could prevent another lunatic from doing the same?

Or is it about helping to rehabilitate people?????? Studying him to find out to help others? But who? other murderes? other killers? other evil mad men?

I doubt it would help anybody in any tangible way but i would imagine studying somebody like this would be of great use to Psychologists studying psychotic human behaviour or whatever.

Treat him like a lab rat on sundays and let him into general population for the rest of the week.

NIMAN · 27-07-2012 02:41AM

By the sound of things, OranBhoy would flick the switch himself if given the chance!!

Killer Wench · 27-07-2012 02:45AM

davyjose wrote: »

Locking him up for life will cost the taxpayer money. He doesn't deserve that. Throw him in a pit and let him starve to death. I'm not going to get all faux indignant about how taking a life for a life makes us just as bad etc, etc.

He shot a 6 year old girl dead. Kill the prick.

It is cheaper to imprison someone for life than it is to execute them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29552692/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/execute-or-not-question-cost/#.UBHynu6-WSo

oranbhoy67 · 27-07-2012 02:46AM

NIMAN wrote: »

By the sound of things, OranBhoy would flick the switch himself if given the chance!!

It would be a pleasure to do so actually!

I believe that the gung-ho attitude to guns in the US is crazy and the law needs to be changed there completely, but I also believe that guys who go on rampages like this should be executed with the up most of haste.

the mer · 27-07-2012 11:25AM

NIMAN wrote: »

I cannot understand a nation of people who suffer so much at the hands of high powered weapons yet they seem happy enough for any Tom, Dick or Harry to be able to own them with next to no checks.

Unless they change their laws and drop this 'right to bear arms' bull****, then this will continue, and probably get worse in years to come as more people become more and more disillusioned.

dont talk about americas ****,the gun laws are almost fine most gun crime is done by unlicenced weapons and its just one event name 4 more??

the mer · 27-07-2012 11:28AM

Killer Wench wrote: »

It is cheaper to imprison someone for life than it is to execute them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29552692/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/execute-or-not-question-cost/#.UBHynu6-WSo

a lethal injection doesnt cost the same as life in prison, if he killed your family would you pay for his prison stay

the mer · 27-07-2012 11:32AM

sup_dude wrote: »

Couldn't agree less...

It's not a case of it being "trendy" to say otherwise, it's a case of it being common f***ing sense and having a bit of humanity. How are we any better than him for killing him? Who are we to choose who gets to live and who gets to die?
Just because it's happens to be a particular persons' natural reaction to retaliate, it does not make it just especially since it may not be everyone's natural reaction.

how do we have the right to deside death or not how does he have the right though???

sunflower27 · 27-07-2012 11:34AM

He's claiming amnesia now.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-dark-knight-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-claims-amnesia-article-1.1122289

hooradiation · 27-07-2012 11:38AM

NIMAN wrote: »

By the sound of things, OranBhoy would flick the switch himself if given the chance!!

The hell he would, he's just an internet blowhard who puts no thought into his position.

Lord of the Bongs · 27-07-2012 11:40AM

There is no suitable punishment for this guy. Some would say stick him in the prison showers for life and that will learn him, others say bring back the firing squad, like for like and all that. me personally I think the only way to bring some sort of closure and be consistent with this particular crime in question, being it America and all, would be to create a weekly TV show, for the sake of argument lets call it the running man, where criminals tried for mass murder and are hunted for fun by ex-wrestlers live on TV. Its the only solution for what is the most violent country on the face of the planet.

Matt_Trakker · 27-07-2012 11:41AM

the mer wrote: »

dont talk about americas ****,the gun laws are almost fine

Yankie constitution

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

this right to bear arms is obviously bull****....you only have the right to bear arms if you're a member of a well-regulated militia necessary for the security of 'merika.

GunRunner wrote: »

I often dye my hair bright colours, does that mean that I'm badly raised?

pics? :P

the mer · 27-07-2012 11:51AM

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

Yankie constitution

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

owning guns is a hobby in america and as you all know the redneck tree dwellers goto far and own 84 weapons stock pile them and start their own tea party miltia ,but i dont want my right to own my hunting rifles taken away because of some nut job ,
ireland is afraid of weapons because it has become a pussy state , look the fraud bankers got away

27-07-2012 11:56AM

the mer wrote: »

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

ireland is afraid of weapons because it has become a pussy state , look the fraud bankers got away

Compared to Wall street they are only bacteria.
Ireland doesn't need weapons because we don't need to kill each other and say it is our god given right.

the mer · 27-07-2012 12:02PM

RVP 11 wrote: »

the mer wrote: »

Compared to Wall street they are only bacteria.
Ireland doesn't need weapons because we don't need to kill each other and say it is our god given right.

have you not read what i posted guns are a hobby in america not tools of self destruction , why dont you give up your beer as you drink your self to death, its the same as you said using a stereotype to make some nation look stupid , its child like same tactics as mit rommneys politics

27-07-2012 12:06PM

the mer wrote: »

have you not read what i posted guns are a hobby in america not tools of self destruction , why dont you give up your beer as you drink your self to death, its the same as you said using a stereotype to make some nation look stupid , its child like same tactics as mit rommneys politics

I don't drink.:p
And America is a stupid place, any excuse for guns and war.p

briany · 27-07-2012 12:15PM

I saw that picture of him sitting in court. He looks like someone gazing at the enormity of the mistake he made. I don't think he was a psychopath or a sociopath, he's someone who went through a severe mental episode which had tragic consequences for all concerned and he should be made to live with that mistake, eventually fading into anonymity in the public consciousness. His playacting as someone who's mentally unbalanced is only covering for someone who is actually very scared of whatever awaits him. I would be against a hasty execution and the perverse martyrdom that would follow.

miller50841 · 27-07-2012 12:20PM

Yes to death penalty.

This piece of sh** must be made suffer look at all the lives he took and ruined.

Prisoners should be made do hard labour and I mean hard that they will be worn into the ground and suffer for the absolute devastation they cause for been selfish.

This Dumb A** should be made example of.
P.S not looking for any smart comments thanks.

Lord of the Bongs · 27-07-2012 12:24PM

not being smart but prison is supposed to be a place for 'rehabilitation' whenever possible.

Duggy747 · 27-07-2012 12:38PM

I'd prefer to see him suffer more rotting in prison, isolated away, than get a quick and painless death from execution.

miller50841 · 27-07-2012 12:43PM

Lord of the Bongs wrote: »

not being smart but prison is supposed to be a place for 'rehabilitation' whenever possible.

From what I've seen and hear doesn't seem to change how the criminals were because most just pick up where they left off

oranbhoy67 · 27-07-2012 01:03PM

hooradiation wrote: »

The hell he would, he's just an internet blowhard who puts no thought into his position.

Nice addition to the debate, how do you know me again?

Corkfeen · 27-07-2012 01:18PM

Many posters seem to be missing the fact that the death penalty costs more in the long run than sending a person to jail for life. It's a barbaric practice to think it's acceptable to kill (or torture depending on the poster) a person to gain some sort of vengeance against those who have already died. I still don't understand fully why America is such a hotbed for such massacres and I don't think it is entirely to do with gun ownership. People like Holmes need to be studied so that there may at least be some chance of spotting people who have the potential to become dangerous and to take preventative measures against them becoming a threat (therapy, medical treatment etc).

Also the death penalty shows no indications of acting as a deterrent.

the mer wrote: »

dont talk about americas ****,the gun laws are almost fine most gun crime is done by unlicenced weapons and its just one event name 4 more??

The guns that are used for spree killings are generally licensed...

the mer wrote: »

owning guns is a hobby in america and as you all know the redneck tree dwellers goto far and own 84 weapons stock pile them and start their own tea party miltia ,but i dont want my right to own my hunting rifles taken away because of some nut job ,
ireland is afraid of weapons because it has become a pussy state , look the fraud bankers got away

When you start referring to a nation as 'a pussy state' because we don't all bare arms, it is a worrying reflection upon some of the people who own guns in America. Can you explain to me why it should be legal to own an assault rifle or purchase tear gas?

sunflower27 · 27-07-2012 01:34PM

314million people in the US

Stands to reason that there is going to be more crime there (on all levels) than other places.

fearcruach · 27-07-2012 01:45PM

the mer wrote: »

a lethal injection doesnt cost the same as life in prison, if he killed your family would you pay for his prison stay

Yes it does. Read the article again. It's not the actual method of death that racks up the costs, it's the appeals process which can take up to 20 years (California).

No matter what your thoughts on Capital Punishment, it has been shown to be far more expensive than imprisonment, so economics should not be an argument.

Also as previously mentioned, my thoughts on paying for him to be imprisoned etc if he killed my family are never going to bring my family back. You can't change the past, only what you feel about it. Killing him won't change that.

danslevent · 27-07-2012 01:48PM

I'm only for death penalty in extreme cases like this, where they know for definite that he did it. I would say yes, why waste tax payers money keeping him alive? He is young and will cost society even more through keeping him in prison.

27-07-2012 01:56PM

danslevent wrote: »

I'm only for death penalty in extreme cases like this, where they know for definite that he did it. I would say yes, why waste tax payers money keeping him alive? He is young and will cost society even more through keeping him in prison.

It amazes me how many times this has been said in this thread. Are some people blind? Read the post right above yours, for example. It costs more to kill a prisoner than it does it keep them alive in prison for life. Let's see how many more times this silly argument for the death penalty will be brought up again in this thread.

Dyr · 27-07-2012 02:31PM

Lord of the Bongs wrote: »

not being smart but prison is supposed to be a place for 'rehabilitation' whenever possible.

not being smart but it is'nt.

hooradiation · 27-07-2012 02:32PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

Nice addition to the debate, how do you know me again?

By your words, how else.

Should James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Get The Death Penalty??

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