Sky entering Broadband in Ireland

DenMan · 26-07-2012 03:53PM #1

Landmark day! Let's see what greedy Eircom now will do about this!

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/sky-to-launch-phone-and-internet-services-in-ireland-560692.html

Bad Panda · 26-07-2012 03:54PM

DenMan wrote: »

Landmark day! Let's see what greedy Eircom now will do about this!

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/sky-to-launch-phone-and-internet-services-in-ireland-560692.html

Finally!! Great news.

UPC STILL don't have BB in my area. Fcuking joke!

N64 · 26-07-2012 03:55PM

They are going to use eircoms DSL network, so if you switch from eircom/vodafone/UTV, etc. you are going to have the same connection exactly.
They won't stand a chance against UPC in terms of broadband quality or speeds since UPC have their own cable network.

Nothing to get excited about really

girl2 · 26-07-2012 03:57PM

I moved from o2 to sky recently in the north here and to be fair I don't have much to complain about. They offered me my landline and unlimited Internet usage for the same price I was paying o2 for broadband. So I have saved a fair bit in all honesty. But then, I'm not much into the Internet speeds or download stuff, so my opinion may not be the best one. But for general online shopping, live streaming of tv programmes etc. it does me the very best.

goat2 · 26-07-2012 03:57PM

just read that there,
there is nothing about pricing, so dont dis eircom yet, we do not know what they are offering,
i guess we will have to wait and see,
there is nothing in that linky to make me think they will offer any better.

Captain Darling · 26-07-2012 03:59PM

Bad Panda wrote: »

Finally!! Great news.

UPC STILL don't have BB in my area. Fcuking joke!

Same here. Sky will surely have the same problem??

Uggh. That answers my question.

N64 wrote: »

They are going to use eircoms DSL network, so if you switch from eircom/vodafone/UTV, etc. you are going to have the same connection exactly.
They won't stand a chance against UPC in terms of broadband quality or speeds since UPC have their own cable network.

Nothing to get excited about really

N64 · 26-07-2012 04:02PM

One positive thing about this is that sky might have bundles (TV+BB+home phone) which is kind of like UPC's offering. This might cause UPC and sky to enter into a price war which is a win for the consumer

AnonoBoy · 26-07-2012 04:03PM

Announced today?

I heard about this last week from a lad who came around my gaff talking about it.

starviewadams · 26-07-2012 04:03PM

Won't make much difference as they will still have to use Eircom's antiquated infrastructure for the most part.So for people who can't get broadband now with eircom,or who achieve crappy bb speeds with eircom it won't change a thing.

Sky's broadband will be a loss leader for them, basically a marketing tool for Sky to get people to sign up to their incredibly profitable TV services in a triple play deal.Also makes it appear that they are keeping up with UPC.

Diapason · 26-07-2012 04:03PM

Also lacking the UPC option locally, although I hate dealing with that company so much I'm not sure I'd bite anyway. Sorry to hear Sky will be using Eircom's network, though. I wonder will they be quicker about upgrading? In truth, I'd be happy enough to get close to the 8 Mbps I'm currently paying through the nose for.

Captain Darling · 26-07-2012 04:04PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Announced today?

I heard about this last week from a lad who came around my gaff talking about it.

My sisters best friends uncle told my dog in a dream five years ago. Its old news. :rolleyes:

:pac:

Scioch · 26-07-2012 04:04PM

Another provider on Eircoms shít lines ? Woop di fcukin doo. :rolleyes:

PogMoThoin · 26-07-2012 04:06PM

DenMan wrote: »

Landmark day! Let's see what greedy Eircom now will do about this!

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/sky-to-launch-phone-and-internet-services-in-ireland-560692.html

What will Eircom do? Nothing but sit back and reap the rewards. :pac:

It's reselling Eircom's bitstream DSL on Eircom copper lines. Like Vodafone, it will be priced to compete, most likely sold at a loss to promote their satellite service (Vodafone already sell at a loss to promote their mobile services)

26-07-2012 04:06PM

**** eircom , same ****ty infrastructure LOL

Caveman1 · 26-07-2012 04:06PM

Still wont beat UPC

Headshot · 26-07-2012 04:08PM

The only good thing is they should offer good deals on package deals but their broadband is going to be ****e because the infrastructure is ****e

I wonder were they ever tempted to buy Eircom?

fishy fishy · 26-07-2012 04:08PM

i tried to get sky TV - they would only put it in one room - they wouldn't not put it into a second room.

What good is that?

Bad Panda · 26-07-2012 04:09PM

ScumLord · 26-07-2012 04:13PM

N64 wrote: »

One positive thing about this is that sky might have bundles (TV+BB+home phone)

I wouldn't see adding a sky TV subscription to my BB as a positive thing. It's a bit like getting rabies included with your internet package.

One of the best providers I've used is digiweb, best speeds and connection not the best prices though.

DenMan · 26-07-2012 04:15PM

It's post eircom I'd be more thinking about. If they go under (very likely) could Sky buy them out and then completely upgrade/overhaul the existing lines/network? It is a step in the right direction. The installer who put our Sky+ box in a few months ago said they were chomping at the bit to get into Ireland and now they finally have. Why have eircom not upgraded the network? Why are they light years behind the rest of Europe?

Headshot · 26-07-2012 04:16PM

DenMan wrote: »

It's post eircom I'd be more thinking about. If they go under (very likely) could Sky buy them out and then completely upgrade/overhaul the existing lines/network? It is a step in the right direction. The installer who put our Sky+ box in a few months said they were chomping at the bit to get into Ireland and now they finally have. Why have eircom not upgraded the network? Why are they light years behind the rest of Europe?

I dont think Eircom will be going under since they'd agreed that new deal or somthing (not sure the in's and out)

Captain Darling · 26-07-2012 04:17PM

Will you still end up paying line rental to Eircom?

Diapason · 26-07-2012 04:18PM

DenMan wrote: »

Why have eircom not upgraded the network? Why are they light years behind the rest of Europe?

I think you hit the nail on the head, it's because they were going under. Think they're out of examinership now, but it's not like it's a tip-top company at the cutting edge.

I'd be hopeful that Sky will invest in infrastructure to compete with UPC. Since I already give Sky a sizeable chunk of my money, it would be nice to get some form of broadband bundle too.

goat2 · 26-07-2012 04:22PM

i dont know if it is the same crowd,
but about a fortnite ago, two guys outside a shop were offering broadband, and i asked them was there a package that would include sky and they said yes, but the quote i got was dearer than what i pay right now for both services,
there were a few people stopped had an interest, until they did the math like me, it was dearer and the others had same to say,
they had a great banner to draw our attention, but that was all, just two minuits of our attention,
i do know that it was a sky broadband package, but i dont know if it is the same crowd as is spoken of here

ScumLord · 26-07-2012 04:24PM

DenMan wrote: »

Why are they light years behind the rest of Europe?

In most other European countrys they have town planning so everyone is living in towns and they only have to supply broadband to that town. In Ireland we have houses all over the place which slows everything down as they have to bring connections out to every nook and cranny of the country.

ejmaztec · 26-07-2012 04:25PM

It's a great shame that Eircom's the one providing the infrastructure, because out in the sticks we'll be forever screwed with sh1t broadband speeds, thanks to having an old bit of disintegrated copper wire attached to a rotten pole outside our houses.

goat2 · 26-07-2012 04:26PM

ScumLord wrote: »

In most other European countrys they have town planning so everyone is living in towns and they only have to supply broadband to that town. In Ireland we have houses all over the place which slows everything down as they have to bring connections out to every nook and cranny of the country.

you put a smile on my face,
i am a culchie,
always a culchie,
and always will,
no notion of moving in next door for a wile, not even for broadband

starviewadams · 26-07-2012 04:28PM

DenMan wrote: »

It's post eircom I'd be more thinking about. If they go under (very likely) could Sky buy them out and then completely upgrade/overhaul the existing lines/network? It is a step in the right direction. The installer who put our Sky+ box in a few months ago said they were chomping at the bit to get into Ireland and now they finally have. Why have eircom not upgraded the network? Why are they light years behind the rest of Europe?

Because the Govt made a balls of privatising the company in the late 90's and they have been systematically asset stripped each time they were taken over by new owners.They are bankrupt,and no business in their right mind (Sky etc) would touch them with a barge pole these days in regards to a takeover.

PogMoThoin · 26-07-2012 04:30PM

ScumLord wrote: »

DenMan wrote: »

Why are they light years behind the rest of Europe?

In most other European countrys they have town planning so everyone is living in towns and they only have to supply broadband to that town. In Ireland we have houses all over the place which slows everything down as they have to bring connections out to every nook and cranny of the country.

If we can deliver electricity to every house, we can easily do broadband. Fibre is dirt cheap. Blame successive governments for not investing properly and expecting the market to sort it (the national broadband scheme didn't bring a single person broadband)

Thwip! · 26-07-2012 04:31PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

It's a great shame that Eircom's the one providing the infrastructure, because out in the sticks we'll be forever screwed with sh1t broadband speeds, thanks to having an old bit of disintegrated copper wire attached to a rotten pole outside our houses.

This, so much fookin this

El Weirdo · 26-07-2012 04:31PM

goat2 wrote: »

i dont know if it is the same crowd,
but about a fortnite ago, two guys outside a shop were offering broadband, and i asked them was there a package that would include sky and they said yes, but the quote i got was dearer than what i pay right now for both services,
there were a few people stopped had an interest, until they did the math like me, it was dearer and the others had same to say,
they had a great banner to draw our attention, but that was all, just two minuits of our attention,
i do know that it was a sky broadband package, but i dont know if it is the same crowd as is spoken of here

Sounds legit.

Sky entering Broadband in Ireland

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