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Most Useless Profession

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  • #62
    sam34
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    wine conoisseurs (?sp)

    that muppet Paulo Tullio on "The Restaurant" guesses incorrectly a lot of the time, after a lot of posturing and bs'ing, yet he's apparently an expert and has a weekly column in one of the Sunday papers.

    bluffer.


  • #63
    RaRaRasputin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭RaRaRasputin


    Civil servants - they don't do anything anyway (yes I know, there are the exceptions)


  • #64
    opinion guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Film critics.

    Only one thing worse - people who think they're critics.

    How does on merely think they are a critic? There really isn't much room for confusion though is there? One either has an opinion or one doesn't. That is all that required to be a critic. Generally people are aware whether they have an opinion or not. Thus generally people don't usually think they are critics when in fact they are not.


    Most useless job ?

    Chuggers.

    /thread


  • #65
    WhatNowForUs?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭WhatNowForUs?


    boo3000 wrote: »
    Robert McGrath wrote: »
    In a democratic society you will need criminal and civil law to regulate behaviour and contracts etc

    Well if you say so.


    Robert McGrath wrote: »
    Not everybody can be an expert on the law (in the same way not everybody can be an expert in medicine) so we need those who are expert to represent our interests.

    I've been wondering why I hadn't been called to a jury in a hospital lately. Should we operate? All in favor say ai

    Robert McGrath wrote: »
    The law is inevitably complicated at times because human behaviour is complicated and it is right that people should not be sent to prison on a whim

    Are you saying we need lawyers so that people don't get to prison on a whim (i don't see why) or because they have a greater understanding of human behaviour? How?

    I can see the need for a judge in some matters (i didn't mean lawyer in this widest sense) but i still think that we could manage just fine without solicitors, barristers etc. I don't buy this whole argument that the law is so complicated only they can understand it, surely at this stage we can develop a code of law that a lay person can comprehend.

    After being in court recently I think i'd prefer to have solicitors and barristors looking after me.


  • #66
    Gmol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    Anglo's Auditors I mean WTF sign off on the accounts and everything's ticketey boo and then whoops?
    They walk away and it's not their responsibillity


    Professional Consultants, they come into your company and you pay them for the privellege to learn all about your business. They charge you a fortune to tell you to move your business to India and then 5 years later you hire them again and pay them a fortune to tell you to move the business back to Ireland:rolleyes:


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  • #67
    Aglomerado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    Advertising Executives from the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.


  • #68
    --Kaiser--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Homeopathists, psychics, priests and other assorted charlatans


  • #69
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    "if anyone here is in marketing or advertising...kill yourself." ;)

    Great point on this at the end of World War Z:
    Virtually all modern professions were considered to be useless, what's needed after the zombie apocalypse is good old-fashioned tradesmen: mechanics, farmers, builders, blacksmiths etc.

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  • #70
    --Kaiser--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Actually, one of my favourite epigrams
    If you can't explain your job to a five year old then it's not important


  • #71
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Vajazzle Engineers.


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  • #72
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    or you a morketeer or a morketer? either way you're useless, prepare for mars


  • #73
    McCrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭McCrack


    boo3000 wrote: »
    Ok i don't know how many of ye are familiar with the book 'A Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy' (it's brilliant) but there's an idea in there that one third of a societies professions are unnecessary and we should get rid of them. In the book they're tricked to boarding a space ark and shot out to space never to be seen again.

    I'm up for it if ye are. But who should we send? For me it's lawyers, they do nothing for society but translate arguments into and out of legal speak and charge a fortune for it. We don't need them, goodbye.

    I know there's been a thread here recently; most hated professions. But just to clarify this isn't about who you hate, it's about who we don't need. For example, i might hate doctors (i don't) but i still recognise the need for them.

    Oh and please explain why the profession is useless, even if it may seem self explanatory (HR is it?).

    Shows how dumb you are, in fact opening a thread asking people what "professions" we don't need. In fact anybody with a job is contributing to society more so than the 400k unemployed (I do recognise some of these are not unemployed by choice).

    Now re lawyers, you think they do nothing for society and we as a democratic society don't need them.

    Come back and say that after you have been arrested, bullied in work and forced to resign, crashed into by a stupid driver and injured, owed money and the debtor wont pay you, you want to buy/sell a gaff, divorce your kunt wife, secure access to your children because your kunt partner wont let you see them, sacked unfairly etc etc etc

    Sure I'm sure you can assert your rights and defend yourself anyway without any legal assistance. Right?


  • #74
    Reoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »
    telesales people! especailly the cnuts the call you up or come to your door

    Yeah, I hate it when telesales people come to my front door too...


  • #75
    Gmol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    Reoil wrote: »
    Yeah, I hate it when telesales people come to my front door too...

    with their phone in their hand... so rude


  • #76
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Professional Footballer. Offers nothing to the world


  • #77
    jdooley28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭jdooley28


    Professional Footballers provide me loads of entertainment, they give me something to talk about with strangers too!


  • #78
    boo3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭boo3000


    McCrack wrote: »
    Shows how dumb you are, in fact opening a thread asking people what "professions" we don't need. In fact anybody with a job is contributing to society more so than the 400k unemployed (I do recognise some of these are not unemployed by choice).

    So if i start work in the morning for Kiddyfiddlers Inc. im contributing to society? What about the guys that worked in auschwitz or that sold thalidomide, honest decent hardworking folk right? Sure where would the country be without all those property developers, bankers, banking regulators over the last few years?
    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    A broad legal knowledge is not something a person can acquire overnight, You're talking about a vast diverse subject with many different facets and areas of expertise which people build careers specialising in alone. I don't think it's realistic to suggest that centuries of the common law can be whittled down to the bare bones. What will happen in criminal law for instance, who will defend and prosecute?

    So you have to be an expert to understand the law but yet us simpletons are expected to understand it enough to live by it, decide on it if called to jury duty and vote on it, directly or indirectly?

    My argument here is not so much against law or justice as some people seem to have taken it. What i don't see the need for is these makey uppy legal professionals, that charge a fortune to translate into and out of legal speak and have it so the only way i can get justice, (or something approximating it) is by employing them.

    Yes I would need them if i went to court in the morning because i don't speak makey uppy legal language but i'd also need to speak to someone in HR (yuk) if i needed to get a job. Doesn't mean society here needs HR.
    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    On a side note the legal profession is currently on it's knee's in this country, particularly at solicitor. Sole practitioners have seen a 60% decrease in earnings per annum and countless solicitors are unemployed. So in Ireland at least the profession is not the golden goose you seem to think it is.

    Well it's nice to start the day on some good news! Let's see that trend continue and we'll all be better for it......


  • #79
    razor425
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭razor425


    Recruitment agents. Need I say more?


  • #80
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Grimebox wrote: »
    Professional Footballer. Offers nothing to the world

    Without football my trip to the barber would be a 10 minute embarrassing silence. Professional footballers are vital to this world.

    Beauty therapists, nail technicians (technician lol), 50% of Gardai, Horoscope columnists, the complete staff of the Sun, Star and Herald.


  • #81
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Grimebox wrote: »
    Professional Footballer. Offers nothing to the world

    Except entertainment. Could say the same thing about anybody working in TV, film, musicians if that were the case. Which it isn't.


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  • #82
    giant_midget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭giant_midget


    razor425 wrote: »
    Recruitment agents. Need I say more?

    I think they are called "Recruitment Consultants :rolleyes:" now stop me if im wrong but a consultant works in a hospital and has probably done 8 years in medical college...not some Bullsh1t numpty "sales" guy/woman who works in recruitment...makes me laugh...


  • #83
    McCrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭McCrack


    boo3000 wrote: »
    So if i start work in the morning for Kiddyfiddlers Inc. im contributing to society? What about the guys that worked in auschwitz or that sold thalidomide, honest decent hardworking folk right? Sure where would the country be without all those property developers, bankers, banking regulators over the last few years?



    So you have to be an expert to understand the law but yet us simpletons are expected to understand it enough to live by it, decide on it if called to jury duty and vote on it, directly or indirectly?

    My argument here is not so much against law or justice as some people seem to have taken it. What i don't see the need for is these makey uppy legal professionals, that charge a fortune to translate into and out of legal speak and have it so the only way i can get justice, (or something approximating it) is by employing them.

    Yes I would need them if i went to court in the morning because i don't speak makey uppy legal language but i'd also need to speak to someone in HR (yuk) if i needed to get a job. Doesn't mean society here needs HR.



    Well it's nice to start the day on some good news! Let's see that trend continue and we'll all be better for it......

    You are really showing your ignorance here.

    If you worked for Kiddyfiddlers inc you would be a child abuser. If you were in the SS and killed many Jews and others you would be a mass murderer.

    Legal professionals exist because we live in a regulated and democratic society. Legal professionals assist and defend your rights when they are infringed by others including the State and I have given many examples where that can happen.

    You don't see the need for lawyers? Then sir you will only have a fool for a client.

    PS I noted you posted at 12.00 pm saying "nice to start the day on some good news!"

    It's probably safe to assume you were only dragging your lazy state-sponging ass out of bed then. I reckon you make a great contribution to society.


  • #84
    razor425
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭razor425


    giant_midget wrote: »
    I think they are called "Recruitment Consultants :rolleyes:" now stop me if im wrong but a consultant works in a hospital and has probably done 8 years in medical college...not some Bullsh1t numpty "sales" guy/woman who works in recruitment...makes me laugh...

    Consultants my **se, most of these muppets have failed at a career already and then decide they would be useful in finding others for the same or similar career. Numpties.


  • #85
    boo3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭boo3000


    McCrack wrote: »
    In fact anybody with a job is contributing to society more so than the 400k unemployed (I do recognise some of these are not unemployed by choice).

    According to you being employed in itself means you contribute to society. According to your argument these hypothetical professional peado's, mass murderers and thalidomide salespeople all contribute to society.
    McCrack wrote: »
    Legal professionals exist because we live in a regulated and democratic society.

    To a certain extent i get this but your confusing living in a regulated democratic society with the need for legal speak. Also, I love how it becomes legal professional or court officer, not solicitor, barrister or senior counsel when defending the role, like those guys are normal hardworking Joes.

    I think my point is being proven on this thread by how much it's being avoided. I'm going to make it again as simply as possible.

    I believe that legal speak or legalese if you will is completely unnecessary. It is on the basis of this makey uppy language that we go to solicitors, barristers and SC's (through a solicitor of course, cough, protectionism) to try and achieve justice or uphold the law.

    We could have justice and law without all this BS. The law is created by people therefore it cannot in this sense be compared to medicine or science (as examples) in it's complexity or need for expertise.

    Because we have to pay huge sums to these experts (in legalese BS, or con artistry, if you will, m'learned friend) it is more difficult to achieve justice. Sometimes justice is achieved in spite of this situation, not because of it. That does not make me pro bullying in the work place, pro dangerous driving, pro state harassment, anti-American or whatever your having.
    McCrack wrote: »
    It's probably safe to assume you were only dragging your lazy state-sponging ass out of bed then. I reckon you make a great contribution to society.

    Now that's what i call jumping to conclusions. Maybe i was starting my boards.ie day as it was my first post. But yeah u gotta hate people on the dole (sarcasm ,just in case anyone thinks i agree with this type of nastiness)

    Oh and before I finish, no, no, no, wait for it, wait, wait, wait............. no you're the fool.


  • #86
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Modern Artists.
    Shovel-leaners at county councils nationwide.


  • #87
    Sea Filly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    Life coach
    Food stylist


  • #88
    Sea Filly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    brummytom wrote: »
    Whoever it is that decided all wet floors needed to have a sign saying 'wet floor' on them.
    If you can't look at a floor and tell it's wet, you deserve to fall on your arse.

    :confused:

    You've never been in a rush before then, I take it. Plus noticing the dampness a floor is dependent on a few things - pattern, finish, light or lack thereof etc. And personally I don't look at the floor when I'm walking.


  • #89
    Brain Stroking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Brain Stroking


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just look at what the ****ers have done with sport. The sporting associations can't even have sanctions for drug cheats without the wonderful words "Court of Arbitration for Sport" coming up.

    Has that always annoyed you or just this week when the Court of Arbitration for Sport was actually in the news?


  • #90
    Brain Stroking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Brain Stroking


    boo3000 wrote: »
    According to you being employed in itself means you contribute to society. According to your argument these hypothetical professional peado's, mass murderers and thalidomide salespeople all contribute to society.



    To a certain extent i get this but your confusing living in a regulated democratic society with the need for legal speak. Also, I love how it becomes legal professional or court officer, not solicitor, barrister or senior counsel when defending the role, like those guys are normal hardworking Joes.

    I think my point is being proven on this thread by how much it's being avoided. I'm going to make it again as simply as possible.

    I believe that legal speak or legalese if you will is completely unnecessary. It is on the basis of this makey uppy language that we go to solicitors, barristers and SC's (through a solicitor of course, cough, protectionism) to try and achieve justice or uphold the law.

    We could have justice and law without all this BS. The law is created by people therefore it cannot in this sense be compared to medicine or science (as examples) in it's complexity or need for expertise.

    Because we have to pay huge sums to these experts (in legalese BS, or con artistry, if you will, m'learned friend) it is more difficult to achieve justice. Sometimes justice is achieved in spite of this situation, not because of it. That does not make me pro bullying in the work place, pro dangerous driving, pro state harassment, anti-American or whatever your having.



    Now that's what i call jumping to conclusions. Maybe i was starting my boards.ie day as it was my first post. But yeah u gotta hate people on the dole (sarcasm ,just in case anyone thinks i agree with this type of nastiness)

    Oh and before I finish, no, no, no, wait for it, wait, wait, wait............. no you're the fool.

    What's with all this talk of "legal speak"? I am a lawyer and i write my letters and advices in English. The fact that the English contained within your own lawyer's letters is beyond your comprehension and has you referring to it as "legal speak" tells me that you live in a world where you most definitely need a lawyer.


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  • #91
    Kerrigooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    McCrack wrote: »
    You are really showing your ignorance here.

    If you worked for Kiddyfiddlers inc you would be a child abuser. If you were in the SS and killed many Jews and others you would be a mass murderer.

    Legal professionals exist because we live in a regulated and democratic society. Legal professionals assist and defend your rights when they are infringed by others including the State and I have given many examples where that can happen.

    You don't see the need for lawyers? Then sir you will only have a fool for a client.

    PS I noted you posted at 12.00 pm saying "nice to start the day on some good news!"

    It's probably safe to assume you were only dragging your lazy state-sponging ass out of bed then. I reckon you make a great contribution to society.

    Totally uncalled for.

    You`re a very unpleasant person,aren`t you?


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