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Should James Holmes, Colorado Shooter, Get The Death Penalty??

  • 26-07-2012 12:14PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭


    Should mass murders like James Holmes, who recently massacred 12 people in a movie theater in Colorado be getting the death penalty??

    It seems likely he will anyway, and the vast majority of Americans are backing it, even people who are normally skeptical of it are for him getting it.

    I guess people who are skeptical of the death penalty tend to support it in cases of when they know for sure its the killer and in cases of complete mass/mulitple murders, e.g. Timothy McVeigh.

    Colorado has only executed one person since 1976, so they only use it for extreme cases, which James Holmes is.

    My opinion is that I'm against the death penalty in all circumstances, I believe a society should avoid behaving the same way as the person who commited the crime did, I don't think that sends out a good message. Yes I'm the uber liberal here. I cannot accept a society which it says its ok to kill another human being, no matter how bad that person was. We as a society should be better than that, and of course in a lot of circumstances you run the risk of actually executing the wrong people. I wouldn't even execute Adolf Hitler, I'd have him locked up for the rest of his life instead.

    So whats your opinion on mass murderers receiving capital punishment, are you for it or against it??

    Should Mass Murderers Like James Holmes Receive The Death Penalty?? 250 votes

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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭SocSocPol


    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭RossieMan


    lifetime of suffering.... over in 5 minutes.


    i know which 1 i'd choose for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Too quick and painless for my liking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Killing him isn't going to undo what has happened. I'm against the Death Penalty in general anyway, but in this case I think it would be better to lock him up for life and study him and his behavior. It might help to stop similar things from happening in the future.


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  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought he was bat **** insane! Insanity defence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Sarah**


    Let me ask this question so - If James Holmes is certified insane at the time of the killings and is put into an institution to be rehabilitated and is in two years time certified sane and "cured" and he is reintegrated in to society.... Where would your opinions sit on that one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    davet82 wrote: »
    No.

    /thread.

    I know you *think* there is more to be said, and you'd be wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    No, he seems to have mental problems. I read in the papers its very likely he had a mental breakdown a few weeks prior to the killings.

    It doesnt take away from the fact that the killings were horrific.

    IMO the death penalty is not 'justice' anyways. Its rather medieval.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Noose!

    Leave him dangling for as long as possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    very tough question. if i was in the situation that the friends and families of the victims are in, i would be calling for blood. i am really torn on this one. his crimes are horrendous and deserves a severe punishment but i think responding to violence with more violence is not the answer. in saying that however, i will not be protesting against the inevitable death penalty he will receive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    Society ridding the world of a mass murder is not acting like him!

    The context of the death(s) is entirely different! It's not even comparable!

    Edit: On the other hand I think he should be studied intensely if what has been mooted about a mental breakdown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Why so serious?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Diapason


    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I wouldn't even execute Adolf Hitler, I'd have him locked up for the rest of his life instead.

    Ummmm... might be a bit late for that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Either take him out back and shoot him in the head as soon as he's convicted or keep him locked up for life with the worst of the worst and hopefully study learn from him. 15 years of appeals on death row shouldn't be an option


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    If he is mentally ill, then No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    I would argue that it is more humane to end someones life rather than have them rot in a small box for the rest of their miserable existence.

    Given the option of living out my life in one of Americas maximum security prisons or a short, clean and painless execution. I'd choose the execution.

    After I got a nice last meal, a conjugal visit and one last sweet, sweet John Player Blue cigarette.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    /thread.

    I know you *think* there is more to be said, and you'd be wrong.

    :pac:


    i just dont have the energy today :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    I believe that you reap what you sow, I don't think the death penalty has any place in a civilised society. Besides what good does it do, yes a murderer will be dead but all the pain and suffering he caused won't ever go away, I don't buy the idea that it is in anyway closure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭trooney


    I thought he was bat **** insane!

    More like batman insane!
    I disagree with capital punishment under any circumstance. No exceptions. Incarceration is the only humane option in these situations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Killing him isn't going to undo what has happened. .

    It''ll ensure the chance of reoffending is at a healthy 0% and keep a prison cell free for a less serious criminal.
    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I believe that you reap what you sow, .

    Except for the criminal that kills people? They get to reap something different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭mongdesade


    Locking him up for life would cost the tax payers millions of $'s...a single round in the head, 25c...sorted !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    American gun law is the real issue here not the death penalty, but like Americans we will be sidetracked into his fate just like Obama and Romney hope so they don't have to face the big ****ing elephant in the room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    buck65 wrote: »
    American gun law is the real issue here ,

    Are they? A Canadian could have done the same http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/07/25/colorado-guns-canada.html

    Anders Breivik managed to killed many more peopel without the aid of American gun laws.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    mongdesade wrote: »
    Locking him up for life would cost the tax payers millions of $'s...a single round in the head, 25c...sorted !
    Exactly what i would have said. Waist of money and space locking him up, he deserves to die imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Are they? A Canadian could have done the same http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/07/25/colorado-guns-canada.html

    Anders Breivik managed to killed many more peopel without the aid of American gun laws.

    Well America does have 8 times more gun murders than comparable countries so I would say yes.
    9,000 people shot dead in 2010 in the USA, you mean to tell me if there were stricter gun controls in place that figure wouldn't at least halve?
    Sure the psychopath will go ahead and get the guns somewhere maybe but do they have to make it so easy for them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭3rdDegree


    No, death penalty is too quick. Life in prison without parole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    mongdesade wrote: »
    Locking him up for life would cost the tax payers millions of $'s...a single round in the head, 25c...sorted !

    Actually for you're information I think keeping the death penalty actually costs more, because of the appeals and legal procedures etc.

    http://www.newser.com/story/51752/recession-may-kill-pricey-death-penalty.html

    http://www.fnsa.org/v1n1/dieter1.html

    Many states were considering abolishing the death penalty back in 09' because of the high costs during the recession.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    buck65 wrote: »
    Well America does have 8 times more gun murders than comparable countries so I would say yes.

    So then the laws are not the problem, its the people?


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