Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

NEDDURC wrote: »

I don't think your maths are correct here!

50 - 35 = 15m to be spent on Allen. Then sell Carroll for 20 leaves 20 remaining. Therefore Torress = Allen + 20m.

Spot on. We will now be told that we wasted that other £15M on Downing...

If we then went on and spent the £20m on a top striker or winger - maybe part on Gaston Ramierez we'd have :

Torres = Allen + Ramierez => looks like a decent deal considering his form since he left and we've have two young players for one older player.
The whole spending too much on Carroll could be forgotten about if you looked at it this way. I'm not saying I'm in favour of selling Carroll.

Isn't this kind of reasoning along the same lines as Chelsea beat Barcelona and Stoke beat Chelsea, so Stoke are better than Barcelona?

SlickRic wrote: »

trying to justify it through all that Maths is nutty.

Chelsea overpaid for Nando.

we should've been laughing. instead we overpaid for Carroll.

using Nando to justify any signing with made in terms of "net spend", is a bit weird. at the end of the day we've spent a certain amount of money unwisely in the last 18 months, and we need to stop it. thankfully Werner has already hinted that we won't be spending willy-nilly, and we've already seen proof of that with the Sigurdsson situation.

just because Nando made us £50m does not justify overspending on Allen.

like others, £10m plus a player or 2 on loan would be fine. but for higher prices, we need to be looking at what's on the continent.

I think £15m would be overpaying for Allen by about £5m. I look at Allen and how he played during the season gone and I think he is a good player. Sometimes he looks like he could really step up a few levels if he had better players around him, but sometimes he looks as if he is a second or two behind the game because he cannot spot the obvious pass. I hear the £15m figure and wonder what a player like Defour or Banega would do in a similar role to Allen and then cannot help to wonder what (beside a British passport) has Allen got that would make him a more expensive player to buy than either of those two.


For me £15m gets you, or damn close to getting, Moussa Sissoko, although given how long he has left on his contract he might be gotten for under the £15m mark.

£15M would get, imho, Banega and you would have change left over.

£15m would come close to getting Defour plus a player like Dembele

£15m would come very close to buying both Medel and Dembele (reckon somewhere close to the £17m to £20m would be the combined figure for them)


Would spending £20m on Medel and Dembele bring more to our first team than spending £15m on Allen? I think it would.

I'm sure this has either been asked before or the answer is so obvious as to be too stupid to ask, so apologies in advance.

How come there is talk of signing Joe Allen? I thought Rodgers wasn't allowed to sign his old Swansea players for two seasons or something like that.

Pro. F wrote: »

I'm sure this has either been asked before or the answer is so obvious as to be too stupid to ask, so apologies in advance.

How come there is talk of signing Joe Allen? I thought Rodgers wasn't allowed to sign his old Swansea players for two seasons or something like that.

The rumour was that Liverpool can't bid for or sign any Swansea players for 12 months unless another club has bid for the player or the player hands in a transfer request.
There's also talk of Joe Allen having a release clause.
I don't think anyone knows exactly what is happening except the clubs.

Pro. F wrote: »

I'm sure this has either been asked before or the answer is so obvious as to be too stupid to ask, so apologies in advance.

How come there is talk of signing Joe Allen? I thought Rodgers wasn't allowed to sign his old Swansea players for two seasons or something like that.

I think all bets are off if the player concerned hands in a transfer request, and Allen would need to do so as part of any potential deal.

@ Kess: spot on. NO BRITISH PLAYERS

Wolves keeper Dorus De Vries linked to Liverpool for £9 million





only kidding on the fee

gafferino wrote: »

Is that because Doni is probably leaving......or something to do with Reina?

He would be a back up keeper. That's all he is at Wolves. With Doni and Jones looking like leaving, we would need cover for Reina.

Kess73 wrote: »

I think £15m would be overpaying for Allen by about £5m. I look at Allen and how he played during the season gone and I think he is a good player. Sometimes he looks like he could really step up a few levels if he had better players around him, but sometimes he looks as if he is a second or two behind the game because he cannot spot the obvious pass. I hear the £15m figure and wonder what a player like Defour or Banega would do in a similar role to Allen and then cannot help to wonder what (beside a British passport) has Allen got that would make him a more expensive player to buy than either of those two.


For me £15m gets you, or damn close to getting, Moussa Sissoko, although given how long he has left on his contract he might be gotten for under the £15m mark.

£15M would get, imho, Banega and you would have change left over.

£15m would come close to getting Defour plus a player like Dembele

£15m would come very close to buying both Medel and Dembele (reckon somewhere close to the £17m to £20m would be the combined figure for them)


Would spending £20m on Medel and Dembele bring more to our first team than spending £15m on Allen? I think it would.

Which again begs the question, what the hell are the scouting department up to?

I picture our scouting department to be the same as the one at the start of Moneyball.
about 10 out of touch aul fellas sitting around a table watching re runs of MOTD.