Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The thing is, by the time the big games come along in the cup competitions you are well beyond Christmas and should know whether CL qualification is in reach or not. If we're 10+ points adrift of 4th spot in late February and have a Europa League tie coming up against Sparta Prague then it should be clear where the priotity should lie during the week concerned and I think arguing to the contrary seems just a little silly.

They'll never get CL football, if they have that attitude. Cups aren't any good to LFC as a "priority".

ush wrote: »

Well its not really a very logical or financially sound argument.

Getting a CL place is financially important. Its also keeps the club's profile raised. Also, Arsenal made such a big deal out of having to win a domestic cup trophy to progress, that they choked against Birmingham.

Also, the "Arsenal would like to win a cup" argument, we aren't qualifying year-in-year-out for the CL. They are. Fans of every persuasion would prefer to be in the CL than Wembley in February. Thats fairly obvious.

Look at Spurs last season. Unlucky to miss out on CL qualification. But they had the right idea about the EL.

We're gonna have to cut our cloth to suit our measure. Thats Rodgers job to manage his resources. If we get to advanced stages in the cups, well and good. But last season we took the foot off the gas in the league, when our rivals were wobbling.

Did we take our foot off the gas, or was it just a worse wobble than the other teams were having?


To say we took our foot off the gas is to suggest that we had it in us to overtake the teams ahead of us, when our form says something very different.

I would say that we had the numbers last season to compete on all fronts, but we simply did not have the quality as we brought in players that were little more than passengers and stuck with those players rather than use our squad filler players as much as we should have.

If people look at many of our cup games last season, we struggled as badly in them as in the league games, we just had the rub of green in a few of them or just about managed to outperform lower league clubs in others. Save for the odd game here and there, in the league and cups, we were horribly predictable, spineless, and one paced.

Kess73 wrote: »

Did we take our foot off the gas, or was it just a worse wobble than the other teams were having?


To say we took our foot off the gas is to suggest that we had it in us to overtake the teams ahead of us, when our form says something very different.

I would say that we had the numbers last season to compete on all fronts, but we simply did not have the quality as we brought in players that were little more than passengers and stuck with those players rather than use our squad filler players as much as we should have.

If people look at many of our cup games last season, we struggled as badly in them as in the league games, we just had the rub of green in a few of them or just about managed to outperform lower league clubs in others. Save for the odd game here and there, in the league and cups, we were horribly predictable, spineless, and one paced.

That squad, better managed and with a striker purchased in the january transfer window, would have been up there. Up there with the might NUFC.

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Can open....worms everywhere. As it should be. It`ll be interesting to see what the FA do about Terry now. If he doesn`t get at least an 8 game ban it`ll be an absolute disgrace.

But here is the thing everyone could see that the media were out to disgrace Suarez from the start, while the same media set out defending John Terry from the start.

citytillidie wrote: »

But here is the thing everyone could see that the media were out to disgrace Suarez from the start, while the same media set out defending John Terry from the start.

That is the most common sense I have ever heard on the Suarez racism case from anybody in a long time . You could see from day 1 the media where out to get him but you could see when it came to terry they where going to defend him to the hilt . Why you ask , because he is English and he wouldn't do a thing like that . I would love to know who Rio Ferdinand was talking about when he said an English player who plays for his country was a well known racist in the camp .
On the Issue of Suarez Liverpool need to make sure he shakes Evra's hand when they play at Anfield . If Evra pulls the stunt of leaving his hand down by his side again then Suarez needs to stand and leave his hand out and refuse to move till Evra shakes it .
Then all this can be put to bed once and for all which is what the majority of people want . It will only open up a can of worms again if Terry doesn't face the same action as Suarez .

Dickerty wrote: »

The argument is that getting a CL place is somehow ALWAYS more important that winning trophies. We won trophies in 2006 and 2012, Arsenal haven't won since 2005. I think most players (and fans) would give up playing in the CL once every few years to win a trophy...

As an Arsenal fan I can tell you I'll take our games vs AC Milan and Barcelona over the past 3 years over a Carling Cup Final with Birmingham every day of the week. Sure, I'd love us to win one of the domestic cups if only to get people to stfu about it but the reality is that UCL is where its at in terms of revenue and attracting the better players.

Leiva wrote: »

Sissoko's name and LFC seem to be mentioned a lot together on Twitter in the past 24hrs.

Now that would be exciting .

Sure they are all people like us who read the stories on him yesterday and put 2 and 2 together cause we were interested before. It's really the most worthless source unless you know the person...

Dickerty wrote: »

Sure they are all people like us who read the stories on him yesterday and put 2 and 2 together cause we were interested before. It's really the most worthless source unless you know the person...

Twitter is excellent for following some proper journos IMO.
There seems to be an infinite amount of gobsh1tes on it too though

Dickerty wrote: »

Yeh, that's what I mean. When a story really breaks, if you are following the right 15/20 guys, you tend to know in an instant. But looking through # searches - it's not good.

Tony Barrett, Ben Smith, Ian Herbert, Tony Evans, Oliver Kay and Rory Smith are some of the reliable ones off the top of my head.

Ian McGarry is a spoofer IMO

Leiva wrote: »

Oliver Kay ?? ... No thanks !

Why so? Did I miss something he fcuked up on?
Generally he seems to only post reliable stuff IMO

Leiva wrote: »

Oliver Kay ?? ... No thanks !

Are you thinking of Ollie Holt?

cson wrote: »

Find Henry Winter to be alright too.

Jaysus.

Pretty much the whole "Sunday Supplement" shower are circle-jerking ignoramuses who have nothing of any value to contribute to football.

Ah Ollie "is calling someone a black cnt racist?" Holt. What a clown.

woodyg wrote: »

might as well say the same for this year I fear, the gap is just to big to close in a summer. there is 4 teams going for that 4th spot and we are going to find it very hard to get above all 4 as they have improved squads again this Summer.

The key will be getting goals, defence is fine we had the 3rd best in the league last season even with the awful run after Christmas.

time will tell.

Some people were calling Newcastle relegation candidates last summer and then with a few clever purchases they challenged for 4th.
Likewise if Liverpool make some clever buys they can be in the mix.