Is moving to London or the UK really emigrating?

dd972 · 24-07-2012 01:25PM #1

I know I'll get a few West Brit jibes for this one, but my point here is if you move from Ireland to the UK you may be moving to a different state or jurisdiction but in my opinion I don't really believe it's full on ''emigration'', like it would be going to Canada, the US in terms of distance or mainland Europe where you'd have to learn another language.

Do you feel like your in a foreign country when you step off at Holyhead or Heathrow ], I for one, don't.

MidlandsM · 24-07-2012 01:25PM

of course it's emigrating ffs......

Hande hoche! · 24-07-2012 01:26PM

Yes, yes it is.

Reekwind · 24-07-2012 01:27PM

Have you left Ireland to live/work in the UK? I have and it feels like emigration to me

lazygal · 24-07-2012 01:27PM

No, my sister moved over to London last year and its practically Ireland. Takes her no time to come home every couple of months and with Skype and whatnot its not too bad.

Also, not everyone emigrating is a hard luck story who just can't catch a break in Ireland. My sister left a well paid permanent job here to take up a better opportunity in London.

Run_to_da_hills · 24-07-2012 01:28PM

Yes it is emigrating, you are moving to a police state and a different world.

super_furry · 24-07-2012 01:29PM

It's certainly less disruptive than heading to the like of the US or Australia. There's also a case whereby it could take you less time to travel home to Dublin from England than it would to travel home to Cork from Dublin.

fasttalkerchat · 24-07-2012 01:30PM

Technically yes. But you wouldn't call a trip to Liverpool a foreign holiday.

Where To · 24-07-2012 01:31PM

No, it's commuting.

dd972 · 24-07-2012 01:31PM

I still don't see it as emigrating in it's fullest sense, I see an Irish person moving to England as being not much different to a Scot moving to England or a Flemish person moving to the Netherlands or vice versa.

Ben D Bus · 24-07-2012 01:32PM

They use funny munny and drink warm beer. How foreign can you get?

Are the National in Kilburn & the Galtymore in Cricklewood still going?

flash1080 · 24-07-2012 01:32PM

I left Ireland to work in Britain (for an Irish company initially). It is emigrating. All the Irish lads I know over here consider it emigrating. Good things are we enjoy the work and make enough money to support ourselves and make regular trips home. I'd imagine most of us will return home within a few years.

Tombi! · 24-07-2012 01:37PM

Move to Wales, live in one of the Welsh speaking areas, there's your new language
Or go to Scotland and learn some Scots gaelic.

Or just move to fúcking brummyland, the brummy accent is like another language.

Reekwind · 24-07-2012 01:38PM

dd972 wrote: »

I still don't see it as emigrating in it's fullest sense, I see an Irish person moving to England as being not much different to a Scot moving to England or a Flemish person moving to the Netherlands or vice versa.

Are you an Irish person who's moved to England?

getz · 24-07-2012 01:38PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Yes it is emigrating, you are moving to a police state and a different world.

a thousand a week are doing it,one day you will be by yourself talking to rabbits and things

celtictiger32 · 24-07-2012 01:39PM

emigrate - 'to leave one country or region to settle in another'

so yes of course it is, unless your one of those mad raving unionists

biko · 24-07-2012 01:49PM

If I put it this way...

It further from Cork or Galway to London than from Dublin, not only in distance.

Tombi! · 24-07-2012 01:50PM

biko wrote: »

If I put it this way...

It further from Cork or Galway to London than from Dublin, not only in distance.

In fairness, anywhere outside of Dublin is another country to me. Went to Meath one day, sounded like another language.

seamus · 24-07-2012 01:56PM

Is this going to be the new bragging bull**** to replace the "My house is sooo expensive" nonsense of the Tiger?

"London? Pssh! Sure, I moved all the way to Wellington, but I went via Nome, Alaska. London? Sure you'd walk home from there."

Emigrating = taking up residence in another country. In big places like the US, I would consider moving state to be emigrating.

brummytom · 24-07-2012 01:56PM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Or just move to fúcking brummyland, the brummy accent is like another language.

Oi!

laoch na mona · 24-07-2012 01:59PM

yes since you are moving to a foreign country

tmc86 · 24-07-2012 01:59PM

brummytom wrote: »

Oi!

I was wondering how long it would take you to see that!

Fratton Fred · 24-07-2012 01:59PM

brummytom wrote: »

Oi!

He does have a point Tom.

getz · 24-07-2012 01:59PM

brummytom wrote: »

Oi!

we think that in manchester

who the fug · 24-07-2012 02:01PM

Ben D Bus wrote: »

They use funny munny and drink warm beer. How foreign can you get?

Are the National in Kilburn & the Galtymore in Cricklewood still going?

National is some type of Church and galtymore is demolished

Tombi! · 24-07-2012 02:02PM

brummytom wrote: »

Oi!

Hey now, I have relatives born there.

You speak a different language.

Or as we say in the native Dublin tongue: Yis are bleedin' mad with yises weird fookin' languge. Ours is deadly lioke.

who the fug · 24-07-2012 02:03PM

If I haven't emigrated why can't I vote

robp · 24-07-2012 02:07PM

dd972 wrote: »

I know I'll get a few West Brit jibes for this one, but my point here is if you move from Ireland to the UK you may be moving to a different state or jurisdiction but in my opinion I don't really believe it's full on ''emigration'', like it would be going to Canada, the US in terms of distance or mainland Europe where you'd have to learn another language.

Do you feel like your in a foreign country when you step off at Holyhead or Heathrow ], I for one, don't.

I moved to London and yeah it certainly doesn’t feel like home. Its emigration in every sense. Its true England is very easy to adapt to but there is a distinct identity over there. I don’t think you need to wait to Union Jack waving Jubilee celebrations to notice it either.

Moving to many parts of the EU these days is a very easy process. Thats what I have leant since moving to Germany. There are lots of people who move to mainland Europe with little else than English. Maybe its just that globalisation is simply moving faster than your conception of what the term means.

getz · 27-07-2012 10:10AM

a lot of english people consider london foreign as well,i notice this week in the news,that two schools in the area of the tower hamlets are teaching children cockney rhyming slang in hope to preserve local culture,good luck to them,but children with bangladeshi accents speaking in the cockney rhyming slang does not quite do it for me .

ejmaztec · 27-07-2012 10:31AM

getz wrote: »

a lot of english people consider london foreign as well,i notice this week in the news,that two schools in the area of the tower hamlets are teaching children cockney rhyming slang in hope to preserve local culture,good luck to them,but children with bangladeshi accents speaking in the cockney rhyming slang does not quite do it for me .

With all of the nationalities living in London, it would be like emigrating to at least 100 countries at once.

jester77 · 27-07-2012 10:40AM

You're dead right OP, you're still in the British Isles :pac:

Is moving to London or the UK really emigrating?

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