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Irish with American accents

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  • #92
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Helix wrote: »
    its a south side dublin accent

    it's also called speaking properly

    South-Side Dublin Accent isn't 'speaking properly'.


  • #93
    Helix
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    South-Side Dublin Accent isn't 'speaking properly'.

    it's speaking a hell of a lot more properly than some of the awful irish accents

    just to point out too, im not actually from the south side. i just find it nonsensical that people routinely try to claim they sound like american accents. have they never actually heard an american accent or something?


  • #94
    newmug
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    Helix wrote: »
    they don't talk like that because they think anything. they talk like that because that's the accent they pick up when they're growing up. it's the exact same reason you talk like you do


    But thats just the point, that gossin will talk like that because he picked it up, but 20 years ago NOBODY spoke like that. His parents obviously had the fool-hardiness to go around speaking like American tourists, and now the child will too. 20 years ago those same people would have been putting on an english accent for the same reason, ala Ann Doyle, Philip Boucher-Hayes.


  • #95
    facemelter
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    eth0 wrote: »
    last time I seen him

    You are giving out about how some people speak and that it annoys you , well this bugs the ****e out of me !


  • #96
    dlofnep
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    Helix wrote: »
    it's speaking a hell of a lot more properly than some of the awful irish accents

    No, it isn't I'm afraid. The dialect of English spoken in Ireland is Hiberno-English, and it's spoken perfectly by the majority of the Irish population. We don't live in England, and are not bound to their norms.

    Whether or not the south-Dublin accent is naturally acquired or consciously exaggerated, most people still view it as an effort to distance yourself from Irish culture. But most importantly, it's just plain irritating to listen to.


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  • #97
    Helix
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    No, it isn't I'm afraid. The dialect of English spoken in Ireland is Hiberno-English, and it's spoken perfectly by the majority of the Irish population. We don't live in England, and are not bound to their norms.

    Whether or not the south-Dublin accent is naturally acquired or consciously exaggerated, most people still view it as an effort to distance yourself from Irish culture. But most importantly, it's just plain irritating to listen to.

    irish culture doesn't have to involve speaking like an inbred hick to be fair


  • #98
    dlofnep
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    Helix wrote: »
    irish culture doesn't have to involve speaking like an inbred hick to be fair

    Yeah, that's not elitist at all. I'd rather speak like a hick, than like a prick.


  • #99
    Mr Whirly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mr Whirly


    The "south side" accent can be heard in many parts of the northside too I'm afraid. First years in colleges from the country would manage to pick it up within six months.

    I grew up in Rathfarnham and no one spoke like that until a decade or so ago. New houses, new money, American tv and people with parents from the country moving in were all factors in it imo.


  • #100
    irishbarb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭irishbarb


    Helix wrote: »
    that's not close to an american accent

    Well it's certainly not an Irish accent.

    Perfect example of a kid spending too much time watching telly and Youtube in my opinion.


  • #101
    NegativeCreep
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    When I start college in September, I give permission to each and every member of my family and friends to beat the crap out of me if I start to talk like a south-side snob. I would sooner die :L


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  • #102
    newmug
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    Whether or not the south-Dublin accent is naturally acquired or consciously exaggerated, most people still view it as an effort to distance yourself from Irish culture. But most importantly, it's just plain irritating to listen to.


    +1,000,000. Thats exactly what it is. I remember when this accent started surfacing in the late 90's, Pat Kenny interviewed a girl who had it specifically to speak about her unusual accent. I think her name was Orla O'Donnell, or Urlaw ew Dunnell as she pronounced it. She used to read the traffic repots on one of the radio stations. Rynd-a-bite.


  • #103
    Abdul Abulbul Amir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Abdul Abulbul Amir


    So, a lot of you in this thread judge people by their accents one way or another, but your own accents are great.

    You must have some seriously small cocks.


  • #104
    Helix
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    irishbarb wrote: »
    Well it's certainly not an Irish accent.

    it is though


  • #105
    Ellis Dee
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    An uncle of mine worked in the forge at Ford's in Dagenham for forty years or so. I was with him in a pub in London one day in the 70s when a Cockney asked him: 'Ere Paddy, 'ow come you never lost your accent?" To which he replied in his best Laois accent: "Shure I never found a better one.":D:D

    There are some nice cultured American accents, but Irish people smart enough to learn them are likewise too intelligent to feel a need to adopt a shell of phoniness.:rolleyes::rolleyes::)


  • #106
    newmug
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    Helix wrote: »
    it is though

    Except, its not. Its an American accent.


  • #107
    Helix
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    Yeah, that's not elitist at all. I'd rather speak like a hick, than like a prick.

    i dont see how pronouncing things properly, in a way that people can understand, is elitist. surely it would be more elitist to speak in a way that a select few could understand?

    where im from, my generation all spoke with very neutral accents, completely naturally, because it's far from an upmarket area. these days the kids speak like they're from the inner city. i don't understand it all to be honest - just like typing in txt spk, it costs nothing to pronounce things properly in a way that everyone can understand

    but hey, if you think that's elitist, thats your problem


  • #108
    Helix
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    newmug wrote: »
    Except, its not. Its an American accent.

    have you never heard an american accent or something?

    actually, based on some of your responses in this thread i doubt you've been too far out of your home town


  • #109
    irishbarb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭irishbarb


    Helix wrote: »
    have you never heard an american accent or something?

    actually, based on some of your responses in this thread i doubt you've been too far out of your home town

    The accent of that child is not a full blown American accent, but it's also not an Irish accent either. He says things with an American twang that he picked up again, from watching too much telly and Youtube. I've actually heard more American-y accents on Irish people then that young fella.


  • #110
    Mr Whirly
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    Helix wrote: »
    have you never heard an american accent or something?

    actually, based on some of your responses in this thread i doubt you've been too far out of your home town

    have you never heard an Irish accent or what?

    Hopefully Canada entices you to stay for a long time.


  • #111
    newmug
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    Helix wrote: »
    have you never heard an american accent or something?

    actually, based on some of your responses in this thread i doubt you've been too far out of your home town


    I dont live in a town, I live in the country. The vast majority of my family have had to emigrate, nearly all to America, so I know a thing or two about American accents. I've worked in places around the world where you would be kidnapped or shot if they thought you were American, the world is full of arseholes, I've met my fill of them, I dont need you to prove it.


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  • #112
    Killer Wench
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    Let's not forget that there are multiple American accents like there are multiple Irish accents. I was born in CA, raised throughout the midwest, and my parents are of southern heritage, so my natural accent is rather southern and country. However, now that I'm back on the west coast, I have adopted a rather flat midwestern accent.

    Some of my fondest memories of living in Dublin was when I met people who would ask me where I'm from (because I'm black) and then say that I have "kinda an American accent". It wasn't "kinda"; it was "totally".


  • #113
    Mr_Spaceman
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    eth0 wrote: »
    he was a proper Starbucks-drinking San Francisco nerdhead.

    :pac: :pac:

    These people are insufferable!


  • #114
    Killer Wench
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    Wow... People associate Starbucks with San Francisco?:eek:


  • #115
    Helix
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    Mr Whirly wrote: »
    have you never heard an Irish accent or what?

    Hopefully Canada entices you to stay for a long time.

    I've heard too many of them. And don't worry, I have no intention of ever moving back to that corrupt, backwards dive


  • #116
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Helix wrote: »
    i dont see how pronouncing things properly, in a way that people can understand, is elitist.

    Er no, it's elitist to equate those with an authentic Irish accent as 'inbred hicks'. We live in Ireland, Irish people can understand us just fine. We have no need to alter our accents.

    If you go abroad and naturally neutralise your accent over a period of a few years, nobody would have any qualms with that. But making up some faux-accent that has never existed on this island up until about 20 years ago, is just vomit-inducing. The general population can hear the fakeness of it, and that's why it's the most detested accent in Ireland.


  • #117
    phasers
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    I've had an American accent my entire life. Nobody else in my family does and nobody knows why I have one. I've spent my whole life being asked "Are you American?" and "Where are you from?" only to get a disappointed look when I say Clondalkin :pac:


  • #118
    omgitsthelazor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭omgitsthelazor


    Most stuff people watch on tv are american so it isn't surprising. Better than the britisms some pick up from soaps.


  • #119
    Brokentime
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2300395.stm

    Anybody?


  • #120
    MaxSteele
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    My father moved to Dublin in the late seventies from the bog, living in the liberties, Pearse street, Northside etc before I was brought up in Clondalkin. He never adopted a dub accent and even remembers when the pretentious D4 accent didn't exist up to 20 years ago. Still has a thick Mayo accent to this day after more than 35 years living here.

    Most of everywhere south of Terenure might as well be considered another US state at this stage.


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  • #121
    SolarFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭SolarFlash


    The Irish accent sounds dreadful so I don't blame anyone for wanting to change it. American accent sounds far better and should be taught in schools to all Irish children.


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