Non national party days

Sappa · 23-07-2012 03:41PM #1

Since Ireland has become a multicultural society I have met a few non nationals who would like to have their birth country celebrated on a particular day like St-Patricks day or as we also have Aistralia day here in certain bars.
Should we officially recognise Polish day in Ireland or Nigeria day or Bastille day.
It would be a good excuse for them to come together and spend money in the economy also recognising their culture.

Tombi! · 23-07-2012 03:44PM

No, just do what the Irish do: grab a 12 pack, get pissed and declare it a "celebration".

mikemac1 · 23-07-2012 03:44PM

The Brazilians in Gort used to hold a festival, popular with the locals

I'm still waiting for Galway to show some samba hurling, the team isn't very good

chin_grin · 23-07-2012 03:45PM

But they do...in their own themed (or nationality run) pub. Nothing is stopping them from celebrating it, just probably wouldn't get much press.

FatherLen · 23-07-2012 03:46PM

not everybody gets a day.

MrStuffins · 23-07-2012 03:47PM

The only people available to celebrate Poland Day would be the Irish.

Sure the Poles would be too busy in work! :pac:

dr.bollocko · 23-07-2012 03:48PM

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Sappa · 23-07-2012 03:52PM

It might help them integrate into society here a bit more as often they stick to their own culture and friends.
Plus it would be a huge money spinner if the 300k Polish and 100k Nigerians were out buying food and drink to celebrate,give us an insight to their food and mannerisms that we might not be aware off and it would be a positive time for them to show us how they celebrate.

chin_grin · 23-07-2012 03:57PM

Sappa wrote: »

It might help them integrate into society here a bit more as often they stick to their own culture and friends.
Plus it would be a huge money spinner if the 300k Polish and 100k Nigerians were out buying food and drink to celebrate,give us an insight to their food and mannerisms that we might not be aware off and it would be a positive time for them to show us how they celebrate.

True. I remember the Chinese students in college putting on some food and festivities for their new year. The look of shock when I said thank you (sounds like "shu-shea" or something...doesn't it?) was priceless. I had to turn to my mate and go "eh, did I say something wrong?", he comforted me on the fact that his mate didn't expect anyone to say thanks. D'aw.

What was my point, yeah festivities with other nationalities. Great bit o'craic.

The Very Hungry Catterpillar · 23-07-2012 03:59PM

Sappa wrote: »

It might help them integrate into society here a bit more as often they stick to their own culture and friends.
Plus it would be a huge money spinner if the 300k Polish and 100k Nigerians were out buying food and drink to celebrate,give us an insight to their food and mannerisms that we might not be aware off and it would be a positive time for them to show us how they celebrate.

I hope you are as generous with your welcome when the Orange Order come marching down O'Connell Street in their attempt to "integrate into society". I'm sure they'd love to give you an insight into their "mannerisms"! :eek:

I'm off now to research the food habits of our northern brethern and will report back later

chin_grin · 23-07-2012 04:00PM

The Very Hungry Catterpillar wrote: »

I hope you are as generous with your welcome when the Orange Order come marching down O'Connell Street in their attempt to "integrate into society". I'm sure they'd love to give you an insight into their "mannerisms"! :eek:

I'm off now to research the food habits of our northern brethern and will report back later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0

Sauve · 23-07-2012 04:01PM

Carrick-on-Shannon in Leitrim have a multi-cultural festival every year (I presume it's still running).
All the local foreigners (?) get together and put on a huge display of food, drink, dance and whatever else, and entertain the Irish for a weekend.
Was at it a couple of years ago, more events like it would be great.

IrishAm · 23-07-2012 04:01PM

Sappa wrote: »

300k Polish and 100k Nigerians .

Where are you getting your figures from?

mikemac1 · 23-07-2012 04:02PM

The Very Hungry Catterpillar wrote: »

I'm off now to research the food habits of our northern brethern and will report back later

Brown lemonade, it's vile!

However the Ulster fry can't be beat, it has soda bread
Ulster fry > Irish fry

chin_grin · 23-07-2012 04:04PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Brown lemonade, it's vile!

However the Ulster fry can't be beat, it has soda bread
Ulster fry > Irish fry

+1! It's the potato farls...<homer drool>

IrishAm · 23-07-2012 04:04PM

Saint Patricks Day isnt an Irish event, its a multicultural one. The Dublin Parade was told to drop its Christian theme. Its a day for all, that should suffice.

If they want their own day, let them fund it themselves. Like the Chinese do, for Chinese New Year celebrations in Dublin.

chin_grin · 23-07-2012 04:07PM

IrishAm wrote: »

Saint Patricks Day isnt an Irish event, its a multicultural one. The Dublin Parade was told to drop its Christian theme. Its a day for all, that should suffice.

If they want their own day, let them fund it themselves. Like the Chinese do, for Chinese New Year celebrations in Dublin.

The Chinese. Great bunch of lads.

Sappa · 23-07-2012 04:11PM

They pay there way with taxes and some have businesses,surely the local councils could donate the use of a facility to use and the immigrants can come together with a fundraiser or get a little dig out if it is a recognised national day.

IrishAm · 23-07-2012 04:14PM

Sappa wrote: »

They pay there way with taxes and some have businesses,surely the local councils could donate the use of a facility to use and the immigrants can come together with a fundraiser or get a little dig out if it is a recognised national day.

How many different days shall we have? There are some 180 different nationalities living in Ireland. Some from different regions. Cant just have a Spanish Day, we must also have a Basque day etc. etc.

Or we could just have one day inclusive of all and have a major session. Wait, we do. Saint Patrick's Day.

Sappa · 23-07-2012 04:22PM

Very simple the we should have a non national day in recognition off all the recent immigrants and a thank you for what they bring to Ireland as well as giving a chance to explore their culture.
We all know St-Patricks day has been hijacked by the drinks industry and the day is a mess by 4pm,a non national day focusing on themed events and food would be great,get to sample different foods and see different customs,the govt should really be promoting such an idea as it would help folk get to know everyone and generate much needed spending in the economy.
They pay taxes here,they rear their families here and we can accommodate them one day that all can enjoy.

The Very Hungry Catterpillar · 23-07-2012 04:26PM

Sappa wrote: »

Very simple the we should have a non national day in recognition off all the recent immigrants and a thank you for what they bring to Ireland as well as giving a chance to explore their culture.
We all know St-Patricks day has been hijacked by the drinks industry and the day is a mess by 4pm,a non national day focusing on themed events and food would be great,get to sample different foods and see different customs,the govt should really be promoting such an idea as it would help folk get to know everyone and generate much needed spending in the economy.
They pay taxes here,they rear their families here and we can accommodate them one day that all can enjoy.

O.K. you've win me over but kindly ensure that we get an additional bank holiday - can't be wasting any of the existing ones.

IrishAm · 23-07-2012 04:27PM

Sappa wrote: »

Very simple the we should have a non national day in recognition off all the recent immigrants and a thank you for what they bring to Ireland as well as giving a chance to explore their culture.

What immigrant quango(of which there are 200 plus) employs you?

Sappa · 23-07-2012 04:34PM

Ha Ha,
I wish I was on one of those gravy trains,I am just trying to look positively on the whole situation,
We need to all get along and immigration is going north not south so let's embrace ideas and customs from other cultures that Irish folk might not otherwise get a chance to experience.
Immigrants often feel alienated and for the whole country to have one big celebration on 1 day of the year,this would send a positive message to everyone here that we acknowledge their customs and are happy to try and experience it ourselves as they do our customs also the message this would send to the international community would be that we are open to integration and moving with the times.

Clareboy · 23-07-2012 05:04PM

Great idea! Why not start by encouraging our largest ethnic minority, the British, to celebrate their culture. A great opportunity was missed recently by not publicly celebrating the Diamond Jubilee of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II here in Ireland. Why not also celebrate the culture of our Celtic neighbours, the Welsh and the Scots! I am sure that members of our largest ethnic minority would love to be able to celebrate their culture openly here in the Republic of Ireland now that there is a new relationship between our two countries.

IrishAm · 23-07-2012 05:10PM

Sappa wrote: »

Ha Ha,
I wish I was on one of those gravy trains,I am just trying to look positively on the whole situation,
We need to all get along and immigration is going north not south so let's embrace ideas and customs from other cultures that Irish folk might not otherwise get a chance to experience.
Immigrants often feel alienated and for the whole country to have one big celebration on 1 day of the year,this would send a positive message to everyone here that we acknowledge their customs and are happy to try and experience it ourselves as they do our customs also the message this would send to the international community would be that we are open to integration and moving with the times.

Cool. Set it up yourself if you feel so strongly about it.

SocSocPol · 23-07-2012 06:21PM

IrishAm wrote: »

Saint Patricks Day isnt an Irish event, its a multicultural one. The Dublin Parade was told to drop its Christian theme. Its a day for all, that should suffice.

If they want their own day, let them fund it themselves. Like the Chinese do, for Chinese New Year celebrations in Dublin.

Nobody suggested that it should be funded, but actually why not, our new Irish have done this country a great service, why shouldn't they get some recognition and some funding.
maybe we re name the August Bank Holiday "New Ireland Day":)

SocSocPol · 23-07-2012 06:25PM

Clareboy wrote: »

Great idea! Why not start by encouraging our largest ethnic minority, the British, to celebrate their culture. A great opportunity was missed recently by not publicly celebrating the Diamond Jubilee of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II here in Ireland. Why not also celebrate the culture of our Celtic neighbours, the Welsh and the Scots! I am sure that members of our largest ethnic minority would love to be able to celebrate their culture openly here in the Republic of Ireland now that there is a new relationship between our two countries.

Recent census figures would indicate the Poles are biggest non Irish national group, not the British. But I agree with you it would be a great start.

Nodin · 23-07-2012 06:26PM

IrishAm wrote: »

Saint Patricks Day isnt an Irish event, its a multicultural one. The Dublin Parade was told to drop its Christian theme............

It was? News to me. Doubtless you've a source for that.

Boombastic · 23-07-2012 06:28PM

I suppose we could hold it any day really, seen as they are all working in our jobs:P

I think we should have more celebrations of our Irish heritage.

IrishAm · 23-07-2012 06:30PM

SocSocPol wrote: »

Nobody suggested that it should be funded, but actually why not, our new Irish have done this country a great service, why shouldn't they get some recognition and some funding.
maybe we re name the August Bank Holiday "New Ireland Day":)

New Irish, what a silly term. Does that make us natives "old Irish?"

Great service, such as?

token101 · 23-07-2012 06:32PM

Boombastic wrote: »

I suppose we could hold it any day really, seen as they are all working in our jobs:P

I think we should have more celebrations of our Irish heritage.

Our jobs? Are we just lending them the job? Do they have it on HP or something?

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