fastfood the solution to late night violence?

minidazzler · 22-07-2012 05:58PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

with 24 hour opening you would certainly have people drifting away gradually and not spilling them all but at the one time. I suggested this in a discussion once and was told 'sure people would never go to work'.

There are people who wouldn't, but I'd wager these are the people who currently don't anyway. Most people would just use their own pace with an every now and then having all nighters/weekenders/benders.

Oranage2 · 22-07-2012 06:01PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

with 24 hour opening you would certainly have people drifting away gradually and not spilling them all but at the one time. I suggested this in a discussion once and was told 'sure people would never go to work'.

I think what they meant is bar workers would never be allowed leave work.

Fuinseog · 22-07-2012 06:02PM

we definitely drink a lot faster and you have to compete with rounds. in other countries you paid at the end and nobody really fecks off without paying.

Fuinseog · 22-07-2012 06:05PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I think what they meant is bar workers would never be allowed leave work.

bar workers tend to work different shifts. irish pubs in general tend to be busier than continental.
its not entirely true that pubs on the continent never close. it is at the discretion of the owner but they will not stay open if they have no customers.

end of the road · 22-07-2012 06:33PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

a ride from them would probably work out cheaper than buying shots for some young one.

LOL. so true. with the young one theirs a risk even if you buy them the shots you won't get the ride.

Pottler · 22-07-2012 07:33PM

end of the road wrote: »

LOL. so true. with the young one theirs a risk even if you buy them the shots you won't get the ride.

The women round your way must be rough if ye have to vaccinate them first before getting your end away. Once vaccinated, can anyone then ride them? Or do they need refreshing?

mconigol · 22-07-2012 07:34PM

Chippers in niteclubs like the good old days I say

Fuinseog · 22-07-2012 11:11PM

mconigol wrote: »

Chippers in niteclubs like the good old days I say

explain. a chippers in the actual niteclub. i cannot imagine the smell.

eth0 · 22-07-2012 11:14PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

explain. a chippers in the actual niteclub. i cannot imagine the smell.

It would nicely cover up the smell of people farting, BO and other bad smells

bb1234567 · 22-07-2012 11:16PM

You think we need MORE chippers? Ha!

22-07-2012 11:18PM

end of the road wrote: »

i suppose the poster means if their was no minimum drinking age parents could legally allow kids to taste alcohol along with educating them about the dangers, the possible outcome is that they won't like it and won't drink. some will argue that such a thing would say that its okay for kids to drink but they already do think its okay no matter how much their parents say otherwise. the question we have to ask ourselves is would we rather kids to be able to drink in a safe environment (the home) or a field? of course parents would rather their teenagers and kids not to drink but the fact is they are (not all i must add) but a lot of kids and teenagers are doing it whether we like it or not.

parents can already legally do that. we don't have a minimum drinking age if you are in a private residence with parental consent to drink.

Chuck Stone · 22-07-2012 11:19PM

Most pubs wouldn't stay open 24hrs anyway but they should be allowed to choose to as long as residents aren't disturbed.

lorrieq · 22-07-2012 11:22PM

Maybe by eating more and more fast food, such individuals become unable to engage in the physical activity of violence ðŸ˜œ That is the only way I see this making sense.

ahsured · 22-07-2012 11:44PM

I havent been out getting fast food in years but I remember when getting a take aways from Burger Land in Cork during the 90s I had to make a run for it

There was always war there,or super macs in Limerick was fairly bad too

i57dwun4yb1pt8 · 22-07-2012 11:55PM

having loads more chippers will not make up for a sh1t government and a sh1t judiciary

Brokentime · 23-07-2012 01:53AM

If you really wanted to go down this risible route of plying people with fast food to keep them docile, then open more fast food shops and chippers, McDs, whatever, and then make home delivery a lot cheaper (for example, using some private companies to do the deliveries). Et viola, people bugger off home and phone in a delivery instead. Streets clear.

southcentralts · 23-07-2012 02:03AM

90% of fights are about a woman, and if you start advocating getting rid of women you will soon find yourself being in 90% of fights OP.

B.A._Baracus · 23-07-2012 03:14AM

Interesting comment about having 24 hour bars.
Would certainly stop the 2.30am mass-pub-exodus which is a well known time for trouble happening.

I always remember my dad telling me its best to leave before closing time. Fights happen then. Guess something he learned himself.

Told me long before I even started going to pubs. Something I ended up not listening too :P But the chap is right. More fights start around then. But apart from that, you'd get a taxi quicker or get some food easier. You should especially leave a pub early if you are getting the nightlink. The amount of fights that happen is mental. Who wants the hassle of all that crap.

Super-Rush · 23-07-2012 03:52AM

Fuinseog wrote: »

explain. a chippers in the actual niteclub. i cannot imagine the smell.

I remember about 10 years ago being in a niteclub, and i opened a door thinking it was another way out and on the other side there was about 20 people in the room all sitting at tables and eating chipper food, mainly chips, chicken and sausages. I went up to the counter and filled my boots, it was free as well.

I asked the woman serving the food what the story was, and she said that they had to serve food on the premises at all times to gain a late license.

Brokentime · 23-07-2012 08:01AM

Super-Rush wrote: »

I remember about 10 years ago being in a niteclub, and i opened a door thinking it was another way out and on the other side there was about 20 people in the room all sitting at tables and eating chipper food, mainly chips, chicken and sausages. I went up to the counter and filled my boots, it was free as well.

I asked the woman serving the food what the story was, and she said that they had to serve food on the premises at all times to gain a late license.

Where was that, then?

MagicSean · 23-07-2012 10:01AM

Fuinseog wrote: »

if folks could get a late night feed quickly and efficiently, would there be less nocturnal violence?
It was suggested on the JD show some time back that the more chippers you have the less aggressive people are.
could the humble chipper be the solution to our woes?

No, closing the fast food places would reduce many public order problems caused by people hanging around outside them and aiting for their food. If there was no food available people would go straight home to get a feed.

Kolido · 23-07-2012 10:34AM

I'm all for more chippers, but wouldn't it lead to more food fights!:pac:

Rabies wrote: »

stagger closing times between 1am-5am, people will go home as they see fit. No queues for food or taxis, less chance of drunken fights.

I'm not sure this would work though. Most of the people will go to the bar staying open the lastest.

bluewolf wrote: »

parents can already legally do that. we don't have a minimum drinking age if you are in a private residence with parental consent to drink.

I was under this impression also. But would social services have any rights to stop you?

Super-Rush wrote: »

I remember about 10 years ago being in a niteclub, and i opened a door thinking it was another way out and on the other side there was about 20 people in the room all sitting at tables and eating chipper food, mainly chips, chicken and sausages. I went up to the counter and filled my boots, it was free as well.

I asked the woman serving the food what the story was, and she said that they had to serve food on the premises at all times to gain a late license.

I remember this in a nightclub I used to go to about 15 years ago. You would get a food ticket on entrance for one serving. Chips and suasages never tasted so good.

gobnaitolunacy · 23-07-2012 10:46AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Interesting comment about having 24 hour bars.
Would certainly stop the 2.30am mass-pub-exodus which is a well known time for trouble happening.

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Stagger closing times. We don't have the maturity as a nation to handle 24hr bars.

Fuinseog · 23-07-2012 11:35AM

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I remember this in a nightclub I used to go to about 15 years ago. You would get a food ticket on entrance for one serving. Chips and suasages never tasted so good.[/QUOTE]

meal tickets were given in clubs in Galway but food was not served. it was a scam. if you asked for some you were told they had finished serving.

no harm for a pub or club to give something free of charge to their customers as a sign of appreciation. a few cocktail sausages cost little and work wonders.

publicans bitch that they are losing customers while jacking up the price of booze and giving noting back to the customers. they are leading eh charge against discount booze. if you gather enough mates together its far cheaper to have a house party than go to the pub or club.

Fuinseog · 23-07-2012 11:37AM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Stagger closing times. We don't have the maturity as a nation to handle 24hr bars.

we are used to the nanny state. people would probably ring joe duffy and complain that the 24 hours opening system made them stay out all night and miss work the next day.

Fuinseog · 23-07-2012 11:40AM

MagicSean wrote: »

No, closing the fast food places would reduce many public order problems caused by people hanging around outside them and aiting for their food. If there was no food available people would go straight home to get a feed.

home can be some distance away if you are out and about in place like dublin. maybe folks should bring hang sangwidges for after the pub?

MagicSean · 23-07-2012 11:48AM

Fuinseog wrote: »

home can be some distance away if you are out and about in place like dublin. maybe folks should bring hang sangwidges for after the pub?

Or get a taxi

cbyrd · 23-07-2012 12:28PM

Years ago a hotel couldn't get a late licence without serving food...I remember going to the local nightclubs that were in the hotels and you'd be given your supper ticket when you paid in.. you could get chicken curry, chips and nuggets or sausages and water.. no queues outside chippers.. everyone sobered up a bit and there were definitely less rows. . . plus you got to sit down and eat it inside rather than on the street :rolleyes: god i'm old :eek:

kfallon · 23-07-2012 12:33PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

I remember about 10 years ago being in a niteclub, and i opened a door thinking it was another way out and on the other side there was about 20 people in the room all sitting at tables and eating chipper food, mainly chips, chicken and sausages. I went up to the counter and filled my boots, it was free as well.

I asked the woman serving the food what the story was, and she said that they had to serve food on the premises at all times to gain a late license.

Standard stuff years ago, you'd get your 'supper' ticket on the way into a club. Christ I'm showing my age here

Rabies · 23-07-2012 01:01PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

I remember about 10 years ago being in a niteclub, and i opened a door thinking it was another way out and on the other side there was about 20 people in the room all sitting at tables and eating chipper food, mainly chips, chicken and sausages. I went up to the counter and filled my boots, it was free as well.

I asked the woman serving the food what the story was, and she said that they had to serve food on the premises at all times to gain a late license.

Food served during all hours of trade is a requirement here. Can be a pain in the hole at times, but a great benefit as a customer. Have a pizza, wedges, fires, pie or other good beering food at all hours.

I remember our local club doing the same with a back room in the mid 90's. Your entry fee covered a meal. Usually mash/fries with veg and sausages.

Kolido wrote: »

I'm not sure this would work though. Most of the people will go to the bar staying open the lastest.

Doesn't happen. People are pretty good, even drunk people. Your body does tell itself when it is home time and you leave.
I work in the bar/club industry here. Many have 24hr licences, most don't use it. Peak drinking hours on a weekend is 11pm-3am. Sure there are clubs and bars open until 6am and a few until midday, but combine a late bar with good staff and doormen and you keep the trouble out.

fastfood the solution to late night violence?

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