Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What pisses me off is we never seem to have huge buy out clauses in the contracts of our best players
Suarez should have a buy out clause of 50 million at least,I doubt he has one at all
If Suarez feels like a change he will do a Macherano and leave for peanuts,

djPSB wrote: »

Think that was all BS about Ramirez.

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Did the bid already? How much was it?

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Does anyone seriously believe that Juventus even have £28 million to spend? The real offer from Juventus is much more likely to be Reto Ziegler and £4 million in fivers and loose change.

djPSB wrote: »

Okay, I'm saying leave achievements out of it for now.

I am comparing them just on the key attributes that are required of a manager.

For me, Kenny is only at his best when he has good players at this disposal. There isn't much to him tactically, it's basically a 'go and out play' tactic which is fine when you have quality players that are able to act on their own initiative.

But last season Kenny didn't have these quality players at his disposal which is why we didn't see great things from players like Downing, Adam, Henderson. They looked clueless.

I reckon Rodgers is better tactically. He is the complete opposite to the 'go out and play' philosophy. Each player in the orchestra has a defined role.

I think he is better with the media. Kenny brought alot of pressure on himself last season with the manner in which he handled interviews which puts added pressure on the team.

I think Rodgers is a better coach. The players have been full of praise of his coaching methods since he took over. If you look at the videos of the training sessions, they seem alot more intense than last season. Granted, Kenny didn't conduct training last season but he was responsible for employing someone to conduct it on his behalf.

I think Rodgers will be better in the transfer marker. Of course, we don't know this yet but I would be surprised if he doesn't surpass the successes of last seasons transfers of Downing, Adam, Suarez, Coates, Carroll, Henderson, Enrique.

I would have thought Kenny would have had the edge as regard man management but it seems not. Skrtel said this week “He told us right on the first training session we had the door open any time and anything we need we should come to him. He is a little bit different from Dalglish in this.”

I don't think Laudrup will be as successful with Swansea next season. I don't think Dalglish would be able to replicate the success Rodgers achieved with them. They didn't win anything, but they achieved much more than they were entitled to.

Now these are some of the reasons why I think Rodgers is a better manager in the modern day than Dalglish.

I am interested to hear why you think the opposite.

Mr Alan wrote: »

What's the point in having any discussion about a manager where your precede it by saying lets leave managerial achievements out of it?!

Mr Alan wrote: »

Bad feeling Suarez might push for a move.

I'd be surprised after the backing he received last year (said at the time, I thought keeping Suarez sweet was a huge part of the reason Kenny defended him so staunchly, rightly or wrongly), however wouldn't be surprised if he was looking at the situation at the club, totally untested/unproven manager & our seemingly uninspiring targets this summer & wondering exactly what he has signed up to.

whatawaster wrote: »

Every club gets injuries and most clubs get at least one important player missing large chunks of seasons.

The crime was Dalglish not replacing Lucas in January.

donfers wrote: »

really annoyed by this juve link

i remember their director of football being interviewed last season and saying they had a great relationship with us

not surprised he thinks that after

we gave them 5 million to take poulsen off their hands

loaned them aquilani on the understanding they would buy him at the end of the season for a pre-agreed fee of 12 or 13 million i think it was - of course they backed out of that

now they want suarez

if we have any backbone at all then we should send them a fax of a photo of ian ayre's hairy butt, i wouldn't even answer the phone to them

worry is they are crafty cunning types who would sell their own mothers to get a good deal so they may have tapped up Luis and received some kind of encouragement there, they can offer CL, a hefty paypacket and Suarez can put the whole FA/Man U political clout/media agenda/racism stuff behind him to an extent

I really hope he doesn't go because he is probably our only player who can create something out of nothing and is currently one of the best players in the world, if he says he wants to go then like torres i would demand 50 million (about 60 million euros) or tell them to get effed


only other slight concern is FSG while on the surface indicating they don't want to sell him may secretly be willing to do business to remove any association with the racism thing for the good of the "brand" - if that turns out to be the case and we end up with borini and dempsey up front then they will have failed the fans and the club and made us into midtable fodder

Andy Carroll wrote: »

what was the verdict on Joe Allens earlier? Sh1te?

redzerdrog wrote: »

I didn't see the game myself but I heard he was GB's best player, anyone else agree?

I have very mixed feelings about Allen, I think he is a good player but we have plenty of CM,s, if are going to spend in that position i'd prefer someone that is an undoubted improvement in what we have. Also 15m is crazy money for him!

If he could be got for £8 million it wouldn't be bad business as I think he would be more capable of playing in CM without Lucas than any of our CM's currently are and this will come in handy for easing Lucas back into things.