Teenagers experimenting with illegal substances.

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:10AM #1

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This thread is for discussion purposes. I do not promote the use of illegal substances and I will never do so. Please read the thread completely before jumping to conclusions. This thread is for education and research purposes for personal use. This post is completely within charter limits as checked by myself beforehand. Thank you.

Hello there!

My name is An0n and I'm here to share my thoughts on drugs in a young person's life.

There's no denying it, every young person is at one point, going to come in contact with drugs during their secondary or college education years. It's just a matter of statistics at this point. Every parent tries to discourage their kids from 'giving in to peer pressure'; but does this psychologically derogative approach really work? Personally I don't think so.

In my own years, I've experimented with some drugs in my own time, including a mix from stimulants, depressants to hallucinogens. Some for recreational use, some for my own personal experimentation and even spiritual development. But I'm 18, have a job(luckily), a beautiful and loving girlfriend and a bright future already planned ahead of me! (I hope)

(in before someone bashes my logic based off my age)

Surely drugs can't be all that bad then?.. Well of course they're extremely bad, they wouldn't be illegal otherwise. Unless of course they can't be taxed, unlike alcohol and tobacco; which are, in fact, some of the most dangerous substances in the world that you can abuse.

My theory is, that, like alcohol; young persons should be introduced to drugs in a safe and secure environment. It sounds crazy, but imagine this: Parents want to give their teenager the experience of let's say, canabis, in the safety of their own home; in regulated dosage and with reliable sources? Oh christ no, that would be all over the news as an abusive parenting case. But yet thousands of teens, and preteens, are taking to the streets every weekend damaging their liver and lungs with alcohol and tobacco. How could the proposed idea be worse than that?

Let's look at the other side, the more realistic side. A youth wants to try canabis today. They don't have much information on source so they just start asking around their friends for a dealer. Once they find one, they're instantly recognised as a new person, and scammed. Given a wrong amount for a hefty price. But it's not just about the money. The youth will then try the drug and think it's not that bad and perhaps will want more. But dealers are rarely in distribution of a single drug, so perhaps next time they'll be offered MDMA(exstasy), if they're lucky! There's a lot more hard drugs on the streets these days and they're going for a lot cheaper than they were. They're stronger and more addictive than ever! Not to mention the chemical threatment and harmful additives added to the drugs! It's really frightening.

So the questions are;

Which circumstance would you rather expose your teen to?
Which would be viewed as most negatively by society?
and why? Explain your views. I could be completely wrong according to someone (:

Thank you for your time.

Johro · 19-07-2012 01:14AM

I planned a bright future for myself as well. Then life happened.

Jesus Shaves · 19-07-2012 01:16AM

I'm a crack head

mauzo · 19-07-2012 01:18AM

I smoked cannabis and took E more times than I care to admit.

If my parents knowingly allowed this to happen, or encouraged me to do it at home, I would have lost all respect for them.

I of course knew it was wrong, but with my parents permission may not have. I would have thought it was more acceptable.

Darragh Harte · 19-07-2012 01:21AM

Drugs are only drugs because they make you feel so good and the government dont want that.
Like weed. No side effects, you get chilled out for a few hours...not a problem in the world. And it aint addicting. I as a teenager have tried it and i haven't felt a craving for it ever.
Though some drugs do mess you up like LSD heroin cocaine etc etc. They have terrible side effects are very very addictive.
They should legalize weed(marijuana) because it's awesome or do what Britain and Holland have...have it as a class D drug. It aint a big deal. It may kill bvrain cells but hundreds or thousands of those die every minute or hour dont they? they'll grow back or we'd all be dead after a few days of birth. No single person has ever died from a marijuana overdose in their life. But if you take 12 panadol and it's the last headache you'll ever have.
Legalize weed or bring it to a class D drug, i say

Peace

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:22AM

Johro wrote: »

I planned a bright future for myself as well. Then life happened.

Please, refrain from irrelevant posting trying to demoralize my philosophies.
I want this thread to be on topic.

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

I'm a crack head

Once again, no contribution to the thread at all.

Bessiebee · 19-07-2012 01:23AM

An0n wrote: »

-Disclaimer-
This thread is for discussion purposes. I do not promote the use of illegal substances and I will never do so. Please read the thread completely before jumping to conclusions. This thread is for education and research purposes for personal use. This post is completely within charter limits as checked by myself beforehand. Thank you.

Hello there!

My name is An0n and I'm here to share my thoughts on drugs in a young person's life.

There's no denying it, every young person is at one point, going to come in contact with drugs during their secondary or college education years. It's just a matter of statistics at this point. Every parent tries to discourage their kids from 'giving in to peer pressure'; but does this psychologically derogative approach really work? Personally I don't think so.

In my own years, I've experimented with some drugs in my own time, including a mix from stimulants, depressants to hallucinogens. Some for recreational use, some for my own personal experimentation and even spiritual development. But I'm 18, have a job(luckily), a beautiful and loving girlfriend and a bright future already planned ahead of me! (I hope)

(in before someone bashes my logic based off my age)

Surely drugs can't be all that bad then?.. Well of course they're extremely bad, they wouldn't be illegal otherwise. Unless of course they can't be taxed, unlike alcohol and tobacco; which are, in fact, some of the most dangerous substances in the world that you can abuse.

My theory is, that, like alcohol; young persons should be introduced to drugs in a safe and secure environment. It sounds crazy, but imagine this: Parents want to give their teenager the experience of let's say, canabis, in the safety of their own home; in regulated dosage and with reliable sources? Oh christ no, that would be all over the news as an abusive parenting case. But yet thousands of teens, and preteens, are taking to the streets every weekend damaging their liver and lungs with alcohol and tobacco. How could the proposed idea be worse than that?

Let's look at the other side, the more realistic side. A youth wants to try canabis today. They don't have much information on source so they just start asking around their friends for a dealer. Once they find one, they're instantly recognised as a new person, and scammed. Given a wrong amount for a hefty price. But it's not just about the money. The youth will then try the drug and think it's not that bad and perhaps will want more. But dealers are rarely in distribution of a single drug, so perhaps next time they'll be offered MDMA(exstasy), if they're lucky! There's a lot more hard drugs on the streets these days and they're going for a lot cheaper than they were. They're stronger and more addictive than ever! Not to mention the chemical threatment and harmful additives added to the drugs! It's really frightening.

So the questions are;

Which circumstance would you rather expose your teen to?
Which would be viewed as most negatively by society?
and why? Explain your views. I could be completely wrong according to someone (:

Thank you for your time.

You're awfully polite

CavanCrew · 19-07-2012 01:23AM

Are you crazy? tell/do it around the rents? No way, that is making it in some warped way.. appropriate, its not.. but people experiment.

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:25AM

syndeyfife wrote: »

I smoked cannabis and took E more times than I care to admit.

If my parents knowingly allowed this to happen, or encouraged me to do it at home, I would have lost all respect for them.

I of course knew it was wrong, but with my parents permission may not have. I would have thought it was more acceptable.

Interesting. But were you not in more danger sourcing these substances by yourself without any regulation on your intake?

I mean if you held respect for them not allowing you to take drugs in the first place, then why would you break that respect? Would that not defeat the purpose of it all?

Sauve · 19-07-2012 01:25AM

An0n wrote: »

So the questions are;

Which circumstance would you rather expose your teen to?
Which would be viewed as most negatively by society?
and why? Explain your views. I could be completely wrong according to someone (:
Thank you for your time.

I don't have children so I can only speculate on how I'd handle it.
I'd like to think I'd be the type of parent whose children can tell anything to and would come to me for advice and information.
I think I'd be naive to try to raise kids who wouldn't drink or touch any drugs at all. If they don't, fair play to them.
But in reality, by their nature kids/teenagers will rebel against authority and rules. It's what they're there to do and it's healthy in some ways.

The best any of us can hope for in my opinion, is well rounded kids who are capable of making their own decisions, not based on peer pressure, and knowing where their limits are with any alcohol/drugs they do take.

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:27AM

Bessiebee wrote: »

You're awfully polite

I don't know whether to take that as sarcasm or not. >.<

CavanCrew wrote: »

Are you crazy? tell/do it around the rents? No way, that is making it in some warped way.. appropriate, its not.. but people experiment.

But is that not the point? Experimentation should be appropriate. You don't throw yourself off a bridge to show the affects of gravity. You conduct an experiment in a safe and secure environment to observe the results yourself.

Logain · 19-07-2012 01:29AM

Ask some of the lads from certain well known North-side estates if they think their parents injecting heroin in front of them when they were children and giving them cans of cider/joints was good for them. See what they say about it.

Of course you cant ask them because they are all Skangers/In prison/Dead.

Teenagers are programmed to rebel against their parents, the degree of that rebellion depends upon the individuals involved.
If they are being offered drugs by their parents they are still gonna want to rebel. The parents are just moving the bar of whats acceptable.

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:30AM

Sauve wrote: »

I don't have children so I can only speculate on how I'd handle it.
I'd like to think I'd be the type of parent whose children can tell anything to and would come to me for advice and information.
I think I'd be naive to try to raise kids who wouldn't drink or touch any drugs at all. If they don't, fair play to them.
But in reality, by their nature kids/teenagers will rebel against authority and rules. It's what they're there to do and it's healthy in some ways.

The best any of us can hope for in my opinion, is well rounded kids who are capable of making their own decisions, not based on peer pressure, and knowing where their limits are with any alcohol/drugs they do take.

Thank you.
An educated way to look at it but I don't agree with the 'rebel against authority' thing. Naturally it's fair to assume so, but it shouldn't be limited to that. If authority was understanding of their experimentation, then there would be no need to rebel. If you see what I mean.

Either way. Thank you for the post. Much appreciated (:

Johro · 19-07-2012 01:30AM

An0n wrote: »

Please, refrain from irrelevant posting trying to demoralize my philosophies.
I want this thread to be on topic.

Your original post is confusing and badly composed and your questions don't make sense.
'Demoralize your philosophies'?
Why, I don't even...

Darragh Harte · 19-07-2012 01:31AM

An0n wrote: »

But is that not the point? Experimentation should be appropriate. You don't throw yourself off a bridge to show the affects of gravity. You conduct an experiment in a safe and secure environment to observe the results yourself.

You...are a boss. I couldn't agree more with you and your logic is sound

Sauve · 19-07-2012 01:31AM

Logain wrote: »

Ask some of the lads from certain well known North-side estates if they think their parents injecting heroin in front of them when they were children and giving them cans of cider/joints was good for them. See what they say about it.

Of course you cant ask them because they are all Skangers/In prison/Dead.

He's talking about teenagers experimenting in a safe and controlled environment.
Your point is far from that!

mauzo · 19-07-2012 01:31AM

An0n wrote: »

syndeyfife wrote: »

I smoked cannabis and took E more times than I care to admit.

If my parents knowingly allowed this to happen, or encouraged me to do it at home, I would have lost all respect for them.

I of course knew it was wrong, but with my parents permission may not have. I would have thought it was more acceptable.

Interesting. But were you not in more danger sourcing these substances by yourself without any regulation on your intake?

I mean if you held respect for them not allowing you to take drugs in the first place, then why would you break that respect? Would that not defeat the purpose of it all?

I've tried weed many a time. Used to smoke it regularly, the most danger I was ever in was when I smoked legal highs.

There's some things you don't tell your parents. That's one of them.

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:32AM

Logain wrote: »

Ask some of the lads from certain well known North-side estates if they think their parents injecting heroin in front of them when they were children and giving them cans of cider/joints was good for them. See what they say about it.

Of course you cant ask them because they are all Skangers/In prison/Dead.

Good point. Although, I am talking about responsible parents here.
I completely agree with the point you're trying to make; and I think it's horrible. But people who are educated early about drugs and limits will never fall into a web of heroin or a life of careless activity.

Once again, thank you for your contribution.

humbert · 19-07-2012 01:32AM

An0n wrote: »

Hello there!

My name is An0n

You lost me just after hello.

Darragh Harte · 19-07-2012 01:32AM

Logain wrote: »

Ask some of the lads from certain well known North-side estates if they think their parents injecting heroin in front of them when they were children and giving them cans of cider/joints was good for them. See what they say about it.

Of course you cant ask them because they are all Skangers/In prison/Dead.

you just steroetyped a lot of people right there. some people that have had that done when they were young turned out to be fine. In fact i have quite a few friends whose parents have taken drugs when they were smaller and none of them are scumbags/in prison/dead

Coeurdepirate · 19-07-2012 01:33AM

Darragh Harte wrote: »

Drugs are only drugs because they make you feel so good and the government dont want that.
Like weed. No side effects, you get chilled out for a few hours...not a problem in the world. And it aint addicting. I as a teenager have tried it and i haven't felt a craving for it ever.
Though some drugs do mess you up like LSD heroin cocaine etc etc. They have terrible side effects are very very addictive.
They should legalize weed(marijuana) because it's awesome or do what Britain and Holland have...have it as a class D drug. It aint a big deal. It may kill bvrain cells but hundreds or thousands of those die every minute or hour dont they? they'll grow back or we'd all be dead after a few days of birth. No single person has ever died from a marijuana overdose in their life. But if you take 12 panadol and it's the last headache you'll ever have.
Legalize weed or bring it to a class D drug, i say
Peace

LSD doesn't mess you up.

It doesn't

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:33AM

Darragh Harte wrote: »

You...are a boss. I couldn't agree more with you and your logic is sound

Thanks buddy. A1

mauzo · 19-07-2012 01:34AM

Sauve wrote: »

Logain wrote: »

Ask some of the lads from certain well known North-side estates if they think their parents injecting heroin in front of them when they were children and giving them cans of cider/joints was good for them. See what they say about it.

Of course you cant ask them because they are all Skangers/In prison/Dead.

He's talking about teenagers experimenting in a safe and controlled environment.
Your point is far from that!

His point is extremely valid to this.

What happens when parents who smoke weed, use heroin and drink to excess decide to let their children try it in the controlled environment that is their own home??

OP is talking absolute shìte

1ZRed · 19-07-2012 01:34AM

I'm 18 as well , never did hard drugs but I have been drawn to them for stupid reasons. I think it's something you should try once in a safe environment to curb the curiosity and dangers. and then leave it at that once you've had your fill and experience.

It's kind of like what my parents said about smoking, it's perfectly fine to try it to get the curiousity and thrill out of it and I did a few times and guess what, I don't smoke;) In fact I could count on both hands how many times I've smoked.

Same idea/mentality involved with drugs (albeit not so enthusiastic obviously) could have the same effect.

I think this is a right approach to it because drugs are everywhere and I see them quite a bit around me when I'm out so it's a growing peer pressure that's becoming the 'smoking problem' of the 60's for our generation. In my view at least.

Darragh Harte · 19-07-2012 01:35AM

Coeurdepirate wrote: »

LSD doesn't mess you up.

It doesn't

Im sorry i've never done it before and i dont know the after effect it has on a person.
my bad. we'll just stick with cocaine...heroin etc. the addicting ones :P

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:35AM

Coeurdepirate wrote: »

LSD doesn't mess you up.

It doesn't

LSD can cause flashbacks and mental illness.
There are actual cases of this; even though it's rare.

A more 'suitable' hallucinogen would be DMT, which lasts a fraction of the time of LSD and it used in your body during REM sleep, and dreaming. It's fairly interesting, but it's a class A drug.

Sauve · 19-07-2012 01:35AM

An0n wrote: »

I don't agree with the 'rebel against authority' thing. Naturally it's fair to assume so, but it shouldn't be limited to that. If authority was understanding of their experimentation, then there would be no need to rebel. If you see what I mean.

I know what you mean, yeah, but it's inbuilt into evereybody to push our boundaries, test our limits and bend the rules. Especially as adolescents, when we're trying and fighting with ourselves to form a personality.

I'm kinda dragging away from your point though, but I do get what you mean about giving kids the opportunity to experiment in safety, then they won't do it behind your back. Hopefully

LH Pathe · 19-07-2012 01:36AM

Just to comment on MDNA i don't trust a drug which is all about making someone feel 'special' without really advertising the potential pitfalls a la LSD because acid, suggests a potential hellride on the path to enlightenment but with ecstasy thats not always the case.

I recall with my sister decades ago how girls; really took it onboard as a fun way to lose weight along with the workout soundtrack it came packaged with but I never foresaw all the boys flocking to this veritable girls' gym environment!!!

Shryke · 19-07-2012 01:36AM

There is a complete lack of reality and of any critical thinking in what i'm reading. And a poor understanding of human behaviour.

TheBegotten · 19-07-2012 01:37AM

Its similar to underage sex. You can condone or condemn it all you want with regards to your kids. It'll still be there, mostly done on an experimental basis, and they sure as hell won't do it with parent around. I'd like to hear someone who has tried weed and is against it though, I haven't been able to find any.

An0n · 19-07-2012 01:37AM

syndeyfife wrote: »

His point is extremely valid to this.

What happens when parents who smoke weed, use heroin and drink to excess decide to let their children try it in the controlled environment that is their own home??

OP is talking absolute shìte

I'm talking about a safe home in a secure growing up environment.

Heroin addicts should not have kids. Simple as that. That's not my fault, or your fault. That's the social services fault for not acting on such cases.

My points aren't 'absolute shìte' in a relative frame.

Teenagers experimenting with illegal substances.

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