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Where would you be going without a bell on your bike!?!
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18-07-2012 08:16AM#1
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monkeypants wrote: »Tape devices? Were their bikes made by DeLorean?
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Bells are infact not legal on bikes:
Statue book
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1963/en/si/0190.html
B (ii) II. clearly disallows a bell on a bike, 38k on a flat road is perfectly doableAudible warning device.
28. (1) Every vehicle (other than a pedestrian-controlled vehicle) shall be fitted with an audible warning device complying with the provisions of sub-article (2) of this article, capable of giving sufficient warning of the approach or position of the vehicle.
(2) The device referred to in sub-article (1) of this article shall not consist of—
(a) a gong, siren or other strident-toned device except in the case of a vehicle used for fire brigade, ambulance or police purposes, or
(b) a bell, except in the case of—
(i) a vehicle used for fire brigade, ambulance or police purposes, or
(ii) a bicycle—
I. the engine of which does not exceed 50 cubic centimetres in cylinder capacity as calculated in accordance with article 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations, 1958 ( S.I. No. 13 of 1958 ) and
II. which is incapable of exceeding 24 miles per hour on a dry level road under normal atmospheric conditions.
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Cookie_Monster wrote: »Bells are infact not legal on bikes:
Statue book
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1963/en/si/0190.html
B (ii) II. clearly disallows a bell on a bike, 38k on a flat road is perfectly doable:)
But they still need an "audible warning device" - so does that mean all road bikes must carry airhorns?
Also, what's a "pedestrian-controlled vehicle" in this context?0 -
Cookie_Monster wrote: »38k on a flat road is perfectly doable:)
you missed this bit
sorry you cant do that into the normal howling galeunder normal atmospheric conditions.
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But they still need an "audible warning device" - so does that mean all road bikes must carry airhorns?
Friend of mine actually used to carry an air horn powered from a fizzy drink bottle on his bike in China - frightened the gick out of me whenever he used it behind me - I thought I was about to be mown down by a truck:
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So, cyclists should not cycle on the path. But they should have bells so that they can warn pedestrians when they are cycling on the path...Mr O’Neill, a spokesman for Republicn Sinn Fein, also wants all cyclists to have bells, so that pedestrians can work out the distance a bike happens to be behind them.
If I had a bell, I wouldn't use it. Ever. Not out of principle, but for the same reason I practically never use the horn on my car - if you have enough time to both avoid the incident and use it, then you probably don't need to use it.0 -
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So, cyclists should not cycle on the path. But they should have bells so that they can warn pedestrians when they are cycling on the path...
If I had a bell, I wouldn't use it. Ever. Not out of principle, but for the same reason I practically never use the horn on my car - if you have enough time to both avoid the incident and use it, then you probably don't need to use it.
A bell isn't really the equivalent of a horn though.
Cars have engine noise which warns other road users of their approach. One of the big discussions you can see with electric vehicles is the problems associated with how quiet they are. There are proposals to add a noise to alert people to their approach. You see the same thing with the luas, Luas drivers have to use their bells frequently in part because they're so quiet, and that's in spite of the fact that they're on a very very clearly marked rail line. Compare how often a Luas driver needs to use his bell to how often a Taxi driver uses his horn.
A bell falls somewhere between a horn and engine noise as an approach alert.0 -
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Re headphones: This thread applies: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056699820If I had a bell, I wouldn't use it. Ever. Not out of principle, but for the same reason I practically never use the horn on my car - if you have enough time to both avoid the incident and use it, then you probably don't need to use it.
Using that logic the Luas would never get anywhere in the city centre.
The trams have bells and horns: The bell (as with a bicycle bell) is mostly an early warning system.
And, as I've said here many times before, ringing a bell and pulling breaks is as easy as cycling a bike.0 -
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