Revolting anti-Irish march in Liverpool

Manco · 18-07-2012 01:21AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

No, that poster clicked the link to the band of the facebook page

It leads to this blog that the band use
http://jimlarkinrfb.blogspot.co.uk/

RIRA slogans on it and talking about prisoners of war in Northern Ireland jails

Is the 'James Larkin Society' linked to the flute band though? It's being addressed by mainstream union leaders, so doesn't seem that extreme. http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/news/national-news/fascist-and-racist-threats-won-t-deter-liverpool-antiracist-antifascist-march-and-rally

thebaz · 18-07-2012 01:27AM

getzls wrote: »

Sorry, i meant B.N.P. who are a follow on in ways from the N.F.

is there a difference - i lived in england in the 80s , and racism from these nuts, is what true racism is - not trading insults during a competive football match , that the mainstream media have their knickers in a twist about - when these guys marched , there was real hatred

18-07-2012 01:38AM

Manco wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Those invovled in the march are no worse than the tens of thousands of Irish people who have spent the past week posting vile and disgusting comments about the people and country of Mauritius.

As moronic as the anti-Mauritian crowd are, at least they're not planning to assault anyone.

Quite a lot of those posting gave issued threats. A number have promised that if they meet any people from Mauritis in Ireland they will beat then.

dd972 · 18-07-2012 01:44AM

The people on this march are the fringes of the fringes, not worth worrying about, football firm types attracted to Ulster Loyalism by it's macho posturing and image.

Most English people couldn't give a monkeys about the RA even when they were bombing the place.

Don't let it put anyone off Liverpool either, great craic at the weekends, good pubs,culture and friendly people who are very much like the Irish, a good percentage of them actually being of Irish stock, most Scousers have faces you'd only get over here

jdooley28 · 18-07-2012 01:45AM

Ambient Occlusion wrote: »

What is a "Sinn Fien"?

I really hate when knobs have nothing better to post so they look for a typo

Mahou · 18-07-2012 01:48AM

Liverpool and Glasgow are where hundreds of thousands of starving Irish flowed into during the famine and it´s these two cities where there has always being resistance. Both cities have a history of Orangeism.

Rasheed · 18-07-2012 01:57AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Those invovled in the march are no worse than the tens of thousands of Irish people who have spent the past week posting vile and disgusting comments about the people and country of Mauritius.

You are obsessed! Why is it bothering you much?

Chuck Stone · 18-07-2012 02:00AM

dd972 wrote: »

The people on this march are the fringes of the fringes, not worth worrying about, football firm types attracted to Ulster Loyalism by it's macho posturing and image.

Except that having a penchant for getting all dressed up in bright colours and blowing flutes is rather camp like a troop of majorettes.

18-07-2012 02:08AM

Rasheed wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Those invovled in the march are no worse than the tens of thousands of Irish people who have spent the past week posting vile and disgusting comments about the people and country of Mauritius.

You are obsessed! Why is it bothering you much?

Obsessed, hardly. Making a comparison between two rather disgusting and sad groups of people is hardly being obsessed.

Neither bothers me in the least, I couldn't care less if every major city in England had anti Irish marches not could I care if another Irish girl was murdered in Mauritius. As sad as either would be neither will affect my day to say life. I wonder if travel agents will stop booking holidays to England due to these matches or dies their grandstanding and desperate attempts to garner publicity only apply to countries where very few Irish customers travel.

My name is URL · 18-07-2012 02:10AM

Allah Kadabra.. Death to the O'Fidels

Rasheed · 18-07-2012 02:26AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Obsessed, hardly. Making a comparison between two rather disgusting and sad groups of people is hardly being obsessed.

Neither bothers me in the least, I couldn't care less if every major city in England had anti Irish marches not could I care if another Irish girl was murdered in Mauritius. As sad as either would be neither will affect my day to say life. I wonder if travel agents will stop booking holidays to England due to these matches or dies their grandstanding and desperate attempts to garner publicity only apply to countries where very few Irish customers travel.

I just don't know why you had to bring Mauritius into this thread. It is unrelated. The travel agents and the boycott are attention/kneejerk reaction but you seem really bothered by it!

If people don't want to go to Mauritius, let them off! I'm sure they were all highly travelled tourists, used of staying in 5 star resorts in the Indian ocean.

And if another girl is killed in Mauritius, lets just hope that you didn't know her, for fear day to day it would interfer with your day to day life.

18-07-2012 03:04AM

Rasheed wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Obsessed, hardly. Making a comparison between two rather disgusting and sad groups of people is hardly being obsessed.

Neither bothers me in the least, I couldn't care less if every major city in England had anti Irish marches not could I care if another Irish girl was murdered in Mauritius. As sad as either would be neither will affect my day to say life. I wonder if travel agents will stop booking holidays to England due to these matches or dies their grandstanding and desperate attempts to garner publicity only apply to countries where very few Irish customers travel.

I just don't know why you had to bring Mauritius into this thread. It is unrelated. The travel agents and the boycott are attention/kneejerk reaction but you seem really bothered by it!

If people don't want to go to Mauritius, let them off! I'm sure they were all highly travelled tourists, used of staying in 5 star resorts in the Indian ocean.

And if another girl is killed in Mauritius, lets just hope that you didn't know her, for fear day to day it would interfer with your day to day life.

I brought it in to compare like with like. The people behind this march are bigoted, backward idiots who really need to catch up with the rest of us and start living in the 21st century. It's very easy to sit back and talk of how offended we all are by the march but as far as I'm concerned those behind the proposed boycott of Mauritius and those posting the despicable comments on social networking sites are every bit as backward and vile as those behind the march.

As for the not caring part, well the constant coverage of the murder, the trial and the subsequent outrage over the verdict has made it hard to care. People are murdered every day and there are numerous examples if Irish people murdered abroad who never had justice fine for them yet few people seem to care. The media have turned the trial from a two ring to a three ring circus and are going to continue to milk the story for the next while while relegating other more imporrant news to a a few quick lines.

does the murder of this one woman deserve more coverage and public out cry to that of any other Irish woman who has been murdered over the past few years? Does the fact that her father in law us somewhat famous to certain people make it more of a tragedy than any other murder? Much like the public out cry over Maddie, the media obsession with this case is nothing more than pretty white girl syndrome. I wonder if it was a woman from an impoverished area who was murdered while on say a booze cruise would people be so very outraged?

Sir Gallagher · 18-07-2012 03:48AM

Nailz wrote: »

So is the majority of those who have marched Scousers? I that was the case it would explain certain aspects of it.

Didn't take long for a stupid football rivalry themed post anyway.

Rasheed · 18-07-2012 06:40AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I brought it in to compare like with like. The people behind this march are bigoted, backward idiots who really need to catch up with the rest of us and start living in the 21st century. It's very easy to sit back and talk of how offended we all are by the march but as far as I'm concerned those behind the proposed boycott of Mauritius and those posting the despicable comments on social networking sites are every bit as backward and vile as those behind the march.

As for the not caring part, well the constant coverage of the murder, the trial and the subsequent outrage over the verdict has made it hard to care. People are murdered every day and there are numerous examples if Irish people murdered abroad who never had justice fine for them yet few people seem to care. The media have turned the trial from a two ring to a three ring circus and are going to continue to milk the story for the next while while relegating other more imporrant news to a a few quick lines.

does the murder of this one woman deserve more coverage and public out cry to that of any other Irish woman who has been murdered over the past few years? Does the fact that her father in law us somewhat famous to certain people make it more of a tragedy than any other murder? Much like the public out cry over Maddie, the media obsession with this case is nothing more than pretty white girl syndrome. I wonder if it was a woman from an impoverished area who was murdered while on say a booze cruise would people be so very outraged?

Yes, completely agree wih you that these acts of hatered is as vile and uncalled for as calling of Mauritian people 'dogs' and 'monkeys'. I also agree with you that the media coverage is intense with the murder trial but I honestly think people have such an interest in it, not only because her family are well known, but the sheer tragedy of it.

Now before you jump on me for, I'm not saying Micheala's death is any more tragic then another persons but perhaps the unfairness and sheer misfortune of it you know? I'm not going to preach to you, you know the details aswell as I do. Then the fcuk up of the investigation, then the dredging up of very personal information and accusing of John during the trial and then the photos. It's lumping shiite upon shiite on the family.

There are always going to be people jumping on the bandwagon and 'blame' the country, it's people and all the rest, pass no heed. But people are just pissed off, surely you can understand that? Please God the investigation will continue and the murders will be convicted but unfortunatly the media circus will go on until that.

And by the way, Mickey Harte, the Tyrone manage, is her father, not father in law.

Fratton Fred · 18-07-2012 07:16AM

The Belfast to Liverpool ferry will be busy this weekend.

getz · 18-07-2012 07:40AM

cannot think of a more stupid place to hold a ant-irish march,both liverpool and manchester are very pro irish,liverpool even once elected a sinn fien member of parliament,and manchester has a monument in cemetery of saint josephs moston manchester commemorating the death of people dieing for the cause,manhester martyrs,one in every three people in both cities have irish ancestors

Chuck Stone · 18-07-2012 07:47AM

getz wrote: »

cannot think of a more stupid place to hold a ant-irish march,both liverpool and manchester are very pro irish,liverpool even once elected a sinn fien member of parliament,and manchester has a monument in cemetery of saint josephs moston manchester commemorating the death of people dieing for the cause,manhester martyrs,one in every three people in both cities have irish ancestors

What's the point in holding an anti-Irish march if there are no pro-Irish people around to antagonise...

... wait a sec... this sounds awfully familiar...

who the fug · 18-07-2012 08:00AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The Belfast to Liverpool ferry will be busy this weekend.

Would it be really bad for me to go to Liverpool, and ask them what their position is on Cork people.

Getz what is the betting that most people on that march will have one Irish grand parent

getz · 18-07-2012 08:54AM

who the fug wrote: »

Would it be really bad for me to go to Liverpool, and ask them what their position is on Cork people.

Getz what is the betting that most people on that march will have one Irish grand parent

there would be a lot , the last irish/english bigots that tried to march through liverpool was a republican one back in feb ,it was the commeration parade of sean phelan,he was a IRA republican member who was born in liverpool ,they turned up with a irish pipe band but it was turned away before it got to the liverpool city centre,notice the usual suspects do not mention that one on the threads.

Zebra3 · 18-07-2012 09:30AM

getz wrote: »

liverpool even once elected a sinn fien member of parliament

Think it was a Home Rule MP.

AEDIC · 18-07-2012 09:39AM

LH Pathe wrote: »

Maybe they're the minority of Liverpudlians that are english and feel frustrated that it feels more like Ireland than england. Can't even shout for their national team!

Unlikely to be actually Liverpudlians but even if a few are, they wont be representing the massive majority of people from Liverpool or indeed England. These fascist and borderline nutjob right wing retards appear in most countries (to the shame of most of the populus).

Ignore them....like everyone else does, and let the local Police deal with them.

DColeman · 18-07-2012 09:46AM

I must say I'm very impressed by the quality of informed political discussion on that facebook page, and it certainly gives the lie to any idea they are just a bunch of resentment-filled morons:

James Larkin can suck my balls

big jims a queer

your a thick nob head Dom, and its not from across the water, THEY ARE HERE YOU MONG!

Any reds go near Himmler, and we will hunt you down like the dogs that you are and carve you up.

Burke himself would have envied such eloquence.

Wacker The Attacker · 18-07-2012 09:52AM

ygolometsipe wrote: »

I hear Fernando Torres doesn't like to march, no marching in sunny Spain

He marched out of Liverpool. You do know he plays for Chelsea now dont you?

Wacker The Attacker · 18-07-2012 09:52AM

thebaz wrote: »

i thought this NF ****e died out in the 80's

ooooooooooooooooh jezus

flash1080 · 18-07-2012 10:01AM

Marcellus Jerome Clarke wrote: »

I don't see the big deal here to be honest. If anything, they are standing up for the right minded Irish people who can't stand the IRA in any form who are the vast majority of Irish people. So I would say well done to them in that regard.

Wow, the ignorance on show here is astounding. I know a lot of hard-working Irish lads in the area and it's disrepectful to them. Do you even know what "forms" of the IRA are active today? I doubt it.

laoch na mona · 18-07-2012 10:14AM

racists love marching

getz · 18-07-2012 10:51AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Think it was a Home Rule MP.

sinn fien formed a party called dail greaann in the 1918 election to get liverpool votes,because under the sinn fien name they would not take seats in goverment,same party with a different coat on

Immaculate Pasta · 18-07-2012 11:19AM

As I am from an Irish immigrant family who came to Liverpool I can't help but feel offended by this. My family, like many other Irish families in Liverpool, came over to England out of necessity not out of want, so it's driven into us not to forget who we are or where we come from. Nevertheless my family have all integrated into English society perfectly and the family who were born here now consider themselves English as well as Irish including myself. The Irish often are very vocal and proud of their heritage but there's never any issue with failing to integrate into wherever they end up. I find it offensive that there are groups of people in this day and age who take issue and are willing to march based on my very own being here even though it is my own country as much as it is theirs.

getz · 18-07-2012 11:29AM

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

As I am from an Irish immigrant family who came to Liverpool I can't help but feel offended by this. My family, like many other Irish families in Liverpool, came over to England out of necessity not out of want, so it's driven into us not to forget who we are or where we come from. Nevertheless my family have all integrated into English society perfectly and the family who were born here now consider themselves English as well as Irish including myself. The Irish often are very vocal and proud of their heritage but there's never any issue with failing to integrate into wherever they end up. I find it offensive that there are groups of people in this day and age who take issue and are willing to march based on my very own being here even though it is my own country as much as it is theirs.

most of us with a irish ancestor feel the same as you,but living in england we see these fringe groups marching around the country every weekend,but its very rare that irish confrontation groups are involved,

Roger Sterling · 18-07-2012 11:32AM

There's probably a thread on boards.co.uk's version of AH about how great it is people are speaking out against those Irish foreigners coming over to Britain and scrounging off the dole.:pac:

Revolting anti-Irish march in Liverpool

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