Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 MOD POST #1130

Realistically if we get €17 million for him i'd take it at this stage... once you factor in his wages of €80,000 a week (or the guts of €5 mil a year) we'd really be looking at bringing (or saving) close to €15/20 mill by getting him off the books also.

So we'll have a chunk of change to play around with.

Kess73 wrote: »

For me if we got £15m to £17m for Carroll, then that is money that could bring in a Belhanda, or a Sissoko. Players who would not be positional replacements for Carroll but who could really strengthen the first team to a greater degree than Carroll does.

You realise we won't be buying either of them right?!

Likely we'll be spending the money of Dempsey or someone of that ilk.

**** that ****.

Mr Alan wrote: »

You realise we won't be buying either of them right?!

Likely we'll be spending the money of Dempsey or someone of that ilk.

**** that ****.

Whats wrong with Dempsey?

NukaCola wrote: »

Whats wrong with Dempsey?

Nothing, he's a good player & I'm happy to have him on board. But pushing 30, it'd be stupid to do it at the expense of Carroll, we're already short up front.

Borini
Dempsey
Suarez
Bellamy

Not enough.

Mr Alan wrote: »

You realise we won't be buying either of them right?!

Likely we'll be spending the money of Dempsey or someone of that ilk.

**** that ****.

I said a Belhanda or a Sissoko, not Belhanda or Sissoko. I meant that style of player and close to that quality.



To use a few lesser names then. Say we got £17m for Carroll, and then went shopping at Fulham for Dembele. In the last 11 months of his contract, can play as a CAM/AM or as a support striker, and can cover in CM if needed. Good playmaker and a clever player. Would improve our first team and would not be overly expensive. Could pop into a three man midfield as the AM of the trio.


Then we go to Seville and try to get Gary Medel. Given he has more left on his contract than Dembele he would probably cost more. Fierce in the tackle, fast, very mobile, loads of stamina, good positionallly, very similar to Mascherano in build and style of play, but is a better passer of the ball than Masch (not that Masch was bad at that tbh)

I would imagine that both those players could be got for £17m or less.

Neither are massive names, neither would be at clubs that can offer them CL football, and they would be upgrades on what we have at the club.


Now we have a midfield trio of

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Dembele

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----Medel

---

Lucas

---

and stick our regular back four (and Pepe) behind that trio.


Lucas would have a guy beside him that would work hard and who could go to war with pretty much anyone who goes up against him. So Lucas would have a partner in midfield who can break up play as well as Lucas can, and who is probably a better pure DM than Lucas. Lucas would also have the freedom to be able to venture further up the pitch with Medel in the team wioth him, and if one of them was injured we would still have the other in the team.

Then ahead of Lucas he would have Dembele. Quick, clever, mobile and skilled. Well able to link the centre of the pitch to the attacking trio and also capable of switching roles with at least two of the front three.


Now throw a front three of


X

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Borini ----Suarez .

And we have a team that for not a lot of money is far better than the one that finished last season.


Throw in Gerrard, Henderson, Shelvey, Downing, Sterling, Adam etc and we have back up or competition for CM, CAM, and at least one wide spot.


Now I would love Belhanda or Sissoko, but there are cheaper options out there, not that the two I mentioned would cost the kind of money that say Downing and Henderson did, who would enhance our first team to a significant degree and who would not be flavour of the month players or big marquee names.

Jaxen Purring Socket wrote: »

I don't see why he would miss the first few games, he is basically doing pre season at the Olympics and with the big games we have early on we cant afford to rest him.

Its not like when he played in the Copa America he had his break at the start of the summer this time.

He could be included up to the weekend of 11th August, so he'll miss the two Europa qualifiers on 2nd and 9th, and he's had no big holiday yet as Uruguay had WC Qualifiers in first two weeks of June, and were back maybe 2 weeks later for a warm-up match against Chile...

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Add Carrolls name to the list and it's still not good enough.

Maybe not. But it's closer to what we need.

Dickerty wrote: »

Playing 3 up front, we need 5 good options - Suarez, Dempsey, Borini, Bellamy. None of the youngsters are there yet. So I need something else there.

We easily have enough cover if we're playing 3 up top without Carroll.

Suarez, Dempsey/Walcott and Borini will start most often. Bellamy, Downing and Cole will rotate in. Pacheco and Sterling play the a few of the cup games and get drafted into rotation if we get a few injuries.

Kess73 wrote: »

I saw Dickerty say that he thinks none of the youngsters are ready but certainly no great number of people saying Morgan should step in for Carroll. In fact the only mention of Morgan I can see is what Chucky said about giving him a chance in some of the league cup games, something I disagree with myself but was certainly no talk of replacing Carroll with Morgan.

Morgan hasn't even managed to crack the bench yet, no chance he can be considered the 5th striker. Maybe Sterling, Ibe, Sinclair or Eccleston (he still there?) could be part of a front 3, but not considering part of the Party Of Five...