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Is it possible to get unbaptised?

  • 16-07-2012 09:17PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭


    Is it possible to get unbaptised? Unconfirmed? UnCommunised (is that even a word). I was baptised as a child. I dont remember consenting to that. I dont want anything to do with the church. I am a very spirtual person but in my own way.
    So is it possible to get unbaptised?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭Ms.M


    If you don't believe it, all that happened was some dude poured water on your head and you said some stuff.
    No further action needed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    not anymore. just don't go to the church.

    /thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    So is it possible to get unbaptised?

    The only way to do it is to **** off a bishop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    If you really want to change ure name, just use the close account function- Then reregister -easy really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    1. You were baptised as I child? I thought everyone was automatically a child? Didn't think you needed to be baptised as one.
    2. who cares


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    I am a very spirtual person but in my own way.
    I never quite know what this is supposed to mean. You don't buy in to the god stuff, but you are spiritual? What is spiritual, and what is the link to religion that one needs to feel "Oh but I am spiritual". What is the need for this nebulous phraseology? It says nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    You didn't consent to it? Stop taking yourself so seriously. By not practicing your religion you are effectively denouncing it. Job done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    What were you thinking? Hedov or something like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    Is it possible to get unbaptised? Unconfirmed? UnCommunised (is that even a word). I was baptised as a child. I dont remember consenting to that. I dont want anything to do with the church. I am a very spirtual person but in my own way.
    So is it possible to get unbaptised?

    The whole point is you don't consent when you are baptised. Your Parents make the choice. It is when you make your confirmation that you make your voluntary consent to being a catholic/Christian .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Big Mouth


    Who the f*ck cares?

    You didn't consent? Well I didn't consent to wearing an orange jumpsuit when I was two but I'm not going to call the fashion police

    This place is full of middle class whiners, most people in real life are NOTHING like the boards lot.........thats why every poll here taken before voting (lisbon, lisbon 2, last euro poll) are always way off the mark.

    STOP MOANING ON BOARDS. RANT OVER


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    Could be worse OP, you could be a jewish lad trying to uncircumcise himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    "Is it possible to get unbaptised?"

    I've heard it all now. No offense op, but wanting such a thing is just dumb. Really dumb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    Big Mouth wrote: »
    Who the f*ck cares?

    You didn't consent? Well I didn't consent to wearing an orange jumpsuit when I was two but I'm not going to call the fashion police

    This place is full of middle class whiners, most people in real life are NOTHING like the boards lot.........thats why every poll here taken before voting (lisbon, lisbon 2, last euro poll) are always way off the mark.

    STOP MOANING ON BOARDS. RANT OVER

    The ironing is delicious


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    Big Mouth wrote: »
    This place is full of middle class whiners, most people in real life are NOTHING like the boards lot.........thats why every poll here taken before voting (lisbon, lisbon 2, last euro poll) are always way off the mark.
    Er, there are more people in Ireland than frequent boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Big Mouth


    The ironing is delicious

    Suppose so but how else can I get my point across? Pidgeon courier?

    I consider myself a casual user not the self loathing middle class socially awkward hardcore "boardsie" who moans about **** like OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 SloomyRengen


    As far as the Catholic Church is concerned no. They claim ownership of your soul at baptism and this can never be reversed or changed. You can officially leave the church by filling out a form found here http://www.countmeout.ie/ .In practical terms this claim by them doesn't mean anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    Pushtrak wrote: »
    I never quite know what this is supposed to mean. You don't buy in to the god stuff, but you are spiritual? What is spiritual, and what is the link to religion that one needs to feel "Oh but I am spiritual". What is the need for this nebulous phraseology? It says nothing.

    I medatate most days for a hour or so. I would call that spirtual but not religous. For me religion caused more problems than it solves
    "Is it possible to get unbaptised?"

    I've heard it all now. No offense op, but wanting such a thing is just dumb. Really dumb.
    I am thinking of this tread more as an intelectual train of thought. Yes i can stop going to church and all the rest of it but my name is still down on there baptisim list and what have ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    You'll have to put in with god for a transfer I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    I medatate most days for a hour or so. I would call that spirtual but not religous. For me religion caused more problems than it solves


    I am thinking of this tread more as an intelectual train of thought. Yes i can stop going to church and all the rest of it but my name is still down on there baptisim list and what have ya.

    If you think it was nonsense then baptism was someone pouring water on your head and nothing more and communion and conformation consisted of talking ****e to an eejit in a large box.

    Make sure you state that you're not a Catholic on the Census and it's pretty much job done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    I am thinking of this tread more as an intelectual train of thought. Yes i can stop going to church and all the rest of it but my name is still down on there baptisim list and what have ya.

    There's also a giant book of jibberish on an alter beneath a statue of a dying man.

    I wouldnt put too much stock into whats written down anywhere if I was you. I just accepted they were all a bit mental and chalked my involvement down to the fact I wasnt fully aware of the situation. Them crossing out my name means as little as them writing it in the first place.

    But if they keep sending you those envelopes lookin money just send em back with a note telling them to fcuk right off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    No, you can try get yourself excommunicated or join another religion but the church, sneaky cunts that they are, changed canon law so you can no longer opt out of being a registered catholic. Get 'em young, the church's eternal motto.

    This whole "if doesn't matter" thing doesn't wash with me, it DOES matter, if they didn't think it mattered they wouldn't have a problem letting people opt out of their particular brand of bullsh1t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    Is it possible to get unbaptised? Unconfirmed? UnCommunised (is that even a word). I was baptised as a child. I dont remember consenting to that. I dont want anything to do with the church. I am a very spirtual person but in my own way.
    So is it possible to get unbaptised?


    Yes, I believe that according to Vatican II [although I could be wrong], you must click your heels three times and for every sacrament from which you wish to divest yourself repeat the following:
    There's no place like Rome,
    There's no place like Rome,
    There's no place like Rome.
    Slan abhaille!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    I medatate most days for a hour or so. I would call that spirtual but not religous. For me religion caused more problems than it solves
    I definitely agree on the religion front, find no credibility in any of it. It's just such a cliché for people nowadays when saying they're not religious, they're spiritual. Just looked up Secular spirituality which is such that it would apply to anyone. It isn't exactly a defining label. I mean, just like human, it isn't exactly going to be surprising/interesting/worth pointing out to anyone that one is human, and going by what this spirituality means, it ought to be no more a surprise.

    It'll just have people who have some imagination of what spirituality means and presume you fit in the box. I get different answers to what spirituality is, and other answers include things like liking walking in forests, places with nice scenery, visiting historical landmarks, for instance. While that would be less the cup of tea of some people than "... in which the motivation is to live happily and/or to help others" we are still casting a very wide net with that definiton, too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    only if you get baptised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭LoYL


    Change your name and never wash again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    you can not be baptised, if you did not give consent.......just class it as a failed swimming lesson........

    as for confirmation......you cannot give a valid agreement at that age......(especially with a cane on your arse)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Wereghost


    Is it possible to get unbaptised? Unconfirmed? UnCommunised (is that even a word). I was baptised as a child. I dont remember consenting to that. I dont want anything to do with the church. I am a very spirtual person but in my own way.
    So is it possible to get unbaptised?
    I don't think so, but it's an interesting subject. Maybe you could petition the Vatican to annul your baptism on the grounds that it was non-consensual and therefore meaningless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭twinQuins


    Ms.M wrote: »
    If you don't believe it, all that happened was some dude poured water on your head and you said some stuff.
    No further action needed!

    Because when they go to lobby the government they'll use the people who don't believe to bolster their numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    As a licenced lord of the dark arts (which I got recently over the internet) I can unbaptise you online for free.

    Print out this page and walk backwards around the church 3 times on 12/12/12 at 12.12am then rub you fingers over the words below.



    BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL, I AM NOW UNBAPTISED


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    Thanks all for the replys. I know that they only have my name on a bit of paper that will never be seen again but By staying in the church are we not consenting to what they say/do/believe/whatever. I mean i only got thinking of this when while i was at baptisem the otherday but surly prederterming someones faith is wrong. IMO baptism should be left till your 18ish when you can have a proper opinion on your own spirtuality.

    Are all the other sacurments made up? I only ever seen baptism mentioned in the bible (granted i haven't read it cover to cover :rolleyes:)

    The way that the vatacain handled the child abuse was laughable. No response of note. I garnetuee that if they got a half million letters saying that writer wanted to be unbaptised on the grounds that he/she didn't give consent so legaly can not hold up, they would have given a proper response/appology.


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