Man convicted of "child porn" after viewing *animated cartoons*

If i remember correctly a number of people were convicted of possessing CP for having those the Simpsons cartoon porn that did the rounds awhile back. I think this was in the UK rather than here tho.

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Have you raped women?
This guy was a convicted paedo, should the justice system have just released him and pretended he never done wrong when he was released?

He was a conviced abuser. It didn't say what he did. There are many different things that come close to "abuse" under the law.

I still think he had the right idea with the cartoon porn.

Gummy Panda wrote: »

How they're depicted is important. It's the same in the UK. A guy got done for having some video of an Asian American pornstar called kitty. He proved she was legal age but judge ruled it was intent based on her being depicted as a minor.

I know her, Kitty Yung. I think she's her in late 20s or so. I assume it was based on the file name. I mean if I go looking for a pornstar who is clearly over the age of 18 do I need to have her say "I was born in 19xx, I'm 18 or over so this islegal!" in every video. I'm still in shock at this stuff.

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

It said;
He previously received a 10- year prison term for rape, indecent assault and sexual assault of minors. This sentence was reviewed seven years later and O'Neill released under probation for five years.

Oh. That's um, I'll just shut up

But still I think he does have a point with the whole fake images.

Of course the fact he did abuse someone takes it to the area of "I really think he shouldn't be getting thoughts about rape again".

Bit of a grey area. But I still think he does have the right idea (for non convicted abusers).

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

That it's a fetish. I know it sounds like I'm defending it or I'm trying to normalize it.

I'm not, at all. But I honestly believe it's no different to having an attraction towards feet, for example.
Some fetishes are clearly more dangerous (like kids, rape, etc). Some just shouldn't be acted on and should be given some sort of help to help control it. Thats my thoughts on it at least.

Ah no, I know you're not trying to defend it. Don't worry.

I just wonder is innate or learned. A massive proportion of paedophiles have been abused themselves. That would suggest to me that it is learned as are other fetishes.

Tough one alright. I can see for a lot of people it's difficult differentiating between this particular person's scenario and the more general issue of legislating taste.
Honestly, while i think this fella is a scumbag and the idea of someone sitting down to draw kiddie porn is revolting and disturbing, I dont think there is any actual crime here.
Maybe for him particularly there was because of his release and as someone said earlier there were probably certain restrictions on what he could and couldnt do, but in general i think it's a dangerous ruling.

With that said the most shocking thing about that whole story is that this fucker was done for "rape, indecent assault and sexual assault of minors" and was out in seven years.

starbelgrade wrote: »

I cracked one off over the Cabury's Flake bunny once.

Nothing to do with this issue really. Just felt like sharing.

:eek: What is wrong with you? You're cracking one out over the bunny when you have this at your disposal:

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Interesting. I was raped as a kid but I don't remember ever being attracted to kids though I was very young when it happened.

It could be more of a taboo thing.
I mean when I was 12/13/14 I'd notice in kids shows some of the girls were really sexy for shows aimed at kids (obviously to attract the guys as viewers) but still, I don't think it's a "monkey see, monkey do" kind of learning. I think it's more akin to a "oh I can't have them" sort of thing.

I'm really sorry that happened to you.

There are not enough statistics out there on paedophilia, AFAIK, to have a proper picture of abuser types, causes, treatment success etc. I think part of the problem is how vilified those with paedophilic tendencies are in media and in society.

There are paedophiles who never harm kids. I found a really interesting, thought-provoking article here on the Guardian while I was searching for statistics. You might like to give it a read.

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I was raped once so it's not like I was put in through a cycle of abuse. I think I came to terms with it years ago. Or maybe my constant source of jokes is a defense thing

I'll read through that sometime. But I think it really does come down into two areas: the ones that generally wouldn't harm a child and views them in the same way one might view a potential boyfriend/girlriend but for whatever reason wouldn't get one. And the people who do molest kids.

One is (ideally) not going to be a harm to kids and the other is just messed up.

Still a horrible thing to happen. I hope you're dealing with it okay now.

And do give it a read. It makes you think that line between the two is not as clear cut as one might think.

Millicent wrote: »

Still a horrible thing to happen. I hope you're dealing with it okay now.

And do give it a read. It makes you think that line between the two is not as clear cut as one might think.

Heh, the day I let someone like one bad day get me down is the day I give up on life

But I am about halfway through it. It's so weird to see someone like that. I never got the "cured" aspect of it.
I always viewed is as something that can't be helped. But, then again, depending if there is a reason (as the man in the article had one) to what the cause was, it could be potentially cured. Sometimes though, I just think people have weird attractions and if they can keep themselves under control, well done, they should live in peace.

I am a child killer.

I say this, because a few years ago I recall drawing a crude & humourous cartoon which depicted a child being killed.

I am truly remorseful & I hope that the friends and family of this poor innocent fictional child can forgive me someday.

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Maybe it is a thing of repressed memories with say 99% of them.

Because when you think about it, you're not exactly going to sit down and say "hey, remember how I used to abuse you as a child" and human mind does have the power to permantely block memories for most people.

So the article could be right. Which if it is is really amazing.

I've also heard that they can get into child porn as a way of acting out what happened to them as a child, to try and make sense of it psychologically.
(I know this sounds like I'm siding with them, I'm not, but I think people should get help instead of being left to rot)

PrincessLola wrote: »

I've also heard that they can get into child porn as a way of acting out what happened to them as a child, to try and make sense of it psychologically.
(I know this sounds like I'm siding with them, I'm not, but I think people should get help instead of being left to rot)

It doesn't sound like you're siding with them but trying to understand them as human beings and that's really important. It definitely could be that they are trying to act out past abuse to them through videos or that they are repeating those same patterns again.

PrincessLola wrote: »

I've also heard that they can get into child porn as a way of acting out what happened to them as a child, to try and make sense of it psychologically.
(I know this sounds like I'm siding with them, I'm not, but I think people should get help instead of being left to rot)

Yes that too is possible.

I suppose this is why people often identify as a "boy lover" or "girl lover".

Usually speaking if they're not complete monsters, they don't see children harmed and just had certain type they like. Like in the article Milly gave me, the man there enjoyed boys that hadn't reached puberty and it was explained why.

Interesting isn't it how the most disturbing of topics can be discussed so calmly and civilly in AH

blacklilly wrote: »

The issue here is the fact this man was previously convicted of rape and therefore his actions were being watched as he was considered a threat to minors.
Thankfully no child was hurt but the whole notion that this type of porn is available is sickning. Depicting child like cartoon bodies in a sexual manner is in a way trying to normalise child sexual abuse. It is catering for people who have urges to sexually abuse a child. I understand it is a grey area however in my opinion the people who make this type of cartoon porn and the people who watch it are sick.
If I was in a relationship with someone who viewed this well I'd feel sick and would dump them on the spot

Do you feel that someone who watches a woman (or man) tied up and gagged while being "abused" is going to act out those fantasies on real people?

What about things that show an innocent schoolgirl being seduced by a teacher? I'm in my 20s, does that mean that I want to be a teacher and seduce schoolgirls?