Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 MOD POST #1130

Tusky · 15-07-2012 07:00PM

djPSB wrote: »

West Ham would be the best place for Carroll if he does go on loan.

Playing in a system that plays to his strengths and he could move in with Kevin Nolan again.

That's the thing though - what happens when he returns to Liverpool, a club that won't be playing to his strengths? If anyone is offering £15m+ we should take the money and forgot this deal ever happened.

Chucky the tree · 15-07-2012 07:00PM

murpho999 wrote: »

That they haven't bought him and LFC still had to pay a lot of his wages.

They were never going to buy him and we paid a lot less of his wages then if we decided to keep him.

mav79 · 15-07-2012 07:01PM

Suso looks good, not ready for fist team yet, but they would be nuts not to offer him a good contract straight away.

Nuri Sahin · 15-07-2012 07:02PM

They can have Carroll, if I can have my Cisse here

Ah no but seriously, Newcastle can **** off outta here with this loan malark.

DrumSteve · 15-07-2012 07:20PM

I've been searching for the quotes online where brendan says he wants to get rid of him... anyone know where they are?

mormank · 15-07-2012 07:24PM

God I really hope Lucas comes back stronger and better than ever. Would be such a shame for him to put in all that effort improving his game for something like this to set him back now. If he is the same player as he was before his injury does anybody else see him as a potential future captain/vice captain of Liverpool?

Gbear · 15-07-2012 07:26PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

I've been searching for the quotes online where brendan says he wants to get rid of him... anyone know where they are?

I think you'll find it difficult to find anything concrete.

I've been as guilty as anyone of jumping the gun on this.

I think I might invest in a shock collar that keeps me away from football forums during the transfer season.

Chucky the tree · 15-07-2012 07:26PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

I've been searching for the quotes online where brendan says he wants to get rid of him... anyone know where they are?

Pretty sure he never said he wanted rid of him. Just hinted very strongly at it.

G.K. · 15-07-2012 07:29PM

mormank wrote: »

God I really hope Lucas comes back stronger and better than ever. Would be such a shame for him to put in all that effort improving his game for something like this to set him back now. If he is the same player as he was before his injury does anybody else see him as a potential future captain/vice captain of Liverpool?

Aye.

stick-dan · 15-07-2012 07:35PM

mormank wrote: »

God I really hope Lucas comes back stronger and better than ever. Would be such a shame for him to put in all that effort improving his game for something like this to set him back now. If he is the same player as he was before his injury does anybody else see him as a potential future captain/vice captain of Liverpool?

Been saying this for at least two years now and my old housemate during that time, (also a fellow red) laughed it off.

G.K. · 15-07-2012 07:38PM

Also, Malaga are apparently looking to offload Isco and Cazorla. Even if it goes no further, I'd expect the club to make enquiries. 2 excellent players.

whatawaster · 15-07-2012 07:43PM

I would be amazed if they got rid of Cazorla.

Morzadec · 15-07-2012 07:49PM

G.K. wrote: »

Also, Malaga are apparently looking to offload Isco and Cazorla. Even if it goes no further, I'd expect the club to make enquiries. 2 excellent players.

Don't know much about Isco but why would they get rid of Cazorla? Is he not their best player? Would be so excited if we could somehow get him, but I would highly doubt it

Nuri Sahin · 15-07-2012 07:50PM

G.K. wrote: »

Also, Malaga are apparently looking to offload Isco and Cazorla. Even if it goes no further, I'd expect the club to make enquiries. 2 excellent players.

Any source for that GK?

Cazorla most people know about at this stage, and I'd happily have him here. Likewise Isco, he's one very exciting young player.

stick-dan · 15-07-2012 08:00PM

BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport
Liverpool turn down Newcastle's offer to loan Andy Carroll #mufc #lfc

Dr Galen · 15-07-2012 08:08PM

Now....don't shoot the messenger, this is a rumours and gossip thread after all, but this has appeared on Twitter, and in fairness there have been some rumours about Strootman already this year.

Arnaldo Ferreira ‏@ArnaldoFLance
Liverpool agree a £27million fee to sign PSV duo Strootman & Mertens. Both flying to England tomorrow for medicals e discuss personal terms.

With a deal for Carroll potentially on the cards, then would Mertens be a worthwhile replacement? We all know that scoring in Holland doesn't necessarily guarantee success elsewhere. Strootman could come in and provide a partner for Lucas, as well as decent cover if Lucas was slow coming back,injured or not up to his recently set high standards.

Fee does seem high, wasn't it about 13 million that they moved for last year as a job lot deal? You'd have to assume that if that figure was correct then there are people on the way out to help fund it.

Seamu$ · 15-07-2012 08:10PM

delw wrote: »

SSN saying Newcastle make an offer for Andy Carroll on loan with view to permanent move

Taking him on loan "with a view" to a permanent move is a complete joke in this situation, it's not like they need to find out what kind of player/person he is before commiting to permanent deal!!

Turtyturd · 15-07-2012 08:11PM

Dr Galen wrote: »

Now....don't shoot the messenger, this is a rumours and gossip thread after all, but this has appeared on Twitter, and in fairness there have been some rumours about Strootman already this year.

With a deal for Carroll potentially on the cards, then would Mertens be a worthwhile replacement? We all know that scoring in Holland doesn't necessarily guarantee success elsewhere. Strootman could come in and provide a partner for Lucas, as well as decent cover if Lucas was slow coming back,injured or not up to his recently set high standards.

Fee does seem high, wasn't it about 13 million that they moved for last year as a job lot deal? You'd have to assume that if that figure was correct then there are people on the way out to help fund it.

Mertens who cost Cahill his place at the Euros?

donfers · 15-07-2012 08:13PM

Dr Galen wrote: »

Now....don't shoot the messenger, this is a rumours and gossip thread after all, but this has appeared on Twitter, and in fairness there have been some rumours about Strootman already this year.

With a deal for Carroll potentially on the cards, then would Mertens be a worthwhile replacement? We all know that scoring in Holland doesn't necessarily guarantee success elsewhere. Strootman could come in and provide a partner for Lucas, as well as decent cover if Lucas was slow coming back,injured or not up to his recently set high standards.

Fee does seem high, wasn't it about 13 million that they moved for last year as a job lot deal? You'd have to assume that if that figure was correct then there are people on the way out to help fund it.

i think there are serious question marks about the validity of that twitter account, he has just said we have signed dempsey for 11 million too

Dr Galen · 15-07-2012 08:21PM

donfers wrote: »

i think there are serious question marks about the validity of that twitter account, he has just said we have signed dempsey for 11 million too

Ah yeah totally, but I posted it more to see what people would think "if" something like that were to happen tbh.

And yes, thats the Mertens alright

delw · 15-07-2012 08:26PM

Seamu$ wrote: »

Taking him on loan "with a view" to a permanent move is a complete joke in this situation, it's not like they need to find out what kind of player/person he is before commiting to permanent deal!!

Couldn't agree more & not a hope in hell they would buy him back unless on the cheap but as a previous post from a Newcastle fan saying they could lose players to the ACON so that alone should say they only want him for a season
Glad to see we have turned down the offer

Dickerty · 15-07-2012 08:27PM

Congrats to Suso, Spain win the U21 Euros again. He started every game, and although he was subbed off in most games, he looked entirely well suited to their possession and simple passing game. Takes a decent free kick too.

Nuri Sahin · 15-07-2012 08:37PM

Dr Galen wrote: »

Now....don't shoot the messenger, this is a rumours and gossip thread after all, but this has appeared on Twitter, and in fairness there have been some rumours about Strootman already this year.

With a deal for Carroll potentially on the cards, then would Mertens be a worthwhile replacement? We all know that scoring in Holland doesn't necessarily guarantee success elsewhere. Strootman could come in and provide a partner for Lucas, as well as decent cover if Lucas was slow coming back,injured or not up to his recently set high standards.

Fee does seem high, wasn't it about 13 million that they moved for last year as a job lot deal? You'd have to assume that if that figure was correct then there are people on the way out to help fund it.

I knew I saw something relating to Mertens and Liverpool earlier but I couldn't find anything elsewhere.

I've mentioned Mertens in the past on here. He's my number choice for LW if we are in the market for one. Direct, , intelligent, quite skillful, quick with the ball (not out and out pace if you get me but quick enough) and a very good finisher to boot. Right in the prime of his career too.

Strootman has been linked with a number of clubs recently including Inter Milan, United amongst one or two others. Someone who should have started at the Euros for the national team. He'd be someone who compliment Lucas really well IMO, be it beside him in a 4-2-3-1 or just ahead of him in a Rodgers' 4-3-3. Really would be the time now to make a move for him because another season at PSV, he'll be going to one of the clubs I mentioned surely next summer, if not this summer.

G.K. · 15-07-2012 08:46PM

-Ade- wrote: »

Any source for that GK?

Cazorla most people know about at this stage, and I'd happily have him here. Likewise Isco, he's one very exciting young player.

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20120715/real-madrid/real-madrid-cazorla-isco-malaga-fichajes_54324611182.html

Translated as:

Debts drown at Malaga, which could lose the option of playing in Europe and even if not facing down payments owed. Sheikh Al Thani, owner of the Andalusian club, has no intention of paying out of pocket after an investment of 150 million, so that his intention is to sell players to get the money.

Captain Morgan Freeman · 15-07-2012 08:52PM

Talk about one step forward and two steps back at Malaga.

Nuri Sahin · 15-07-2012 08:56PM

G.K. wrote: »

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20120715/real-madrid/real-madrid-cazorla-isco-malaga-fichajes_54324611182.html

Translated as:

Mundo Deportivo are a bit sensationalist, albeit less so than Marca that's for sure. Carzola and Isco would certainly be their most prized assets though if they are selling.

Dr Galen · 15-07-2012 09:02PM

-Ade- wrote: »

I knew I saw something relating to Mertens and Liverpool earlier but I couldn't find anything elsewhere.

I've mentioned Mertens in the past on here. He's my number choice for LW if we are in the market for one. Direct, , intelligent, quite skillful, quick with the ball (not out and out pace if you get me but quick enough) and a very good finisher to boot. Right in the prime of his career too.

Strootman has been linked with a number of clubs recently including Inter Milan, United amongst one or two others. Someone who should have started at the Euros for the national team. He'd be someone who compliment Lucas really well IMO, be it beside him in a 4-2-3-1 or just ahead of him in a Rodgers' 4-3-3. Really would be the time now to make a move for him because another season at PSV, he'll be going to one of the clubs I mentioned surely next summer, if not this summer.

Had seen him linked with Utd alright, but nothing concrete. I'd say if we make a move, then it might shake a few others into action.

As for Mertens, just checked and he scored 21 last season. Him on the left, Borini through the middle and Luis on the right of a front 3 would be a nice prospect. There'd be goals in that lineup for sure.

djPSB · 15-07-2012 09:05PM

Captain Morgan Freeman wrote: »

Talk about one step forward and two steps back at Malaga.

Cause love is like a hurricane.

stick-dan · 15-07-2012 09:10PM

Captain Morgan Freeman wrote: »

Talk about one step forward and two steps back at Malaga.

djPSB wrote: »

Cause love is like a hurricane.

BKC · 15-07-2012 09:13PM

donfers wrote: »

i think there are serious question marks about the validity of that twitter account, he has just said we have signed dempsey for 11 million too

He's not the only one. Fox Sports are reporting it now.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 MOD POST #1130

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