Does the success of '50 Shades Of Grey' prove that every woman loves a bastard?

Blondini · 14-07-2012 12:20AM

.. Grey's penis throbbed like a yoke on a Knackers horse ...
"Lob it into me boss" cried Steele.....

Fap.

LH Pathe · 14-07-2012 12:41AM

Couldn't help but notice my formerly irish aunt who was over for the weekend had a copy by her bed, with a luton airport pricetag on.

Another who ditched the hubby once teh midlife crisis kicked in, with delusions of raaaaunchy S&M sessions with a younger guy!! Cougar town. Desperate ex- housewifes

krudler · 14-07-2012 12:46AM

Pantsface wrote: »

Kerry Katona said they were the best books she ever read

I rest my case

probably the only books she's ever read.

phasers · 14-07-2012 12:49AM

LH Pathe wrote: »

Couldn't help but notice my formerly irish aunt who was over for the weekend had a copy by her bed, with a luton airport pricetag on.

Eh, what were you doing in her bed?

Brain Stroking · 14-07-2012 12:50AM

I've noticed that most women i know who read it and liked it tend to see everything in their world in black and white. Which is ironic

Smidge · 14-07-2012 12:55AM

LH Pathe wrote: »

Couldn't help but notice my formerly irish aunt who was over for the weekend had a copy by her bed, with a luton airport pricetag on.

Another who ditched the hubby once teh midlife crisis kicked in, with delusions of raaaaunchy S&M sessions with a younger guy!! Cougar town. Desperate ex- housewifes

Which part was she?
From somewhere else or no longer your Aunt?;)

Shryke · 14-07-2012 12:56AM

phasers wrote: »

LH Pathe wrote: »

Couldn't help but notice my formerly irish aunt who was over for the weekend had a copy by her bed, with a luton airport pricetag on.

Eh, what were you doing in her bed?

Looking for her vibrator?

Blondini · 14-07-2012 12:59AM

phasers wrote: »

Eh, what were you doing in her bed?

He was flicking her well-thumbed volume ....

(see I can do the erotic literature too! Boom )

LH Pathe · 14-07-2012 01:15AM

The immersion needed turning on! sounds dodgy, but it wasn't like that. Some of you clearly craving a spanking too, have you read it as well

Da Shins Kelly · 14-07-2012 01:27AM

I'd like to think that most women grow out of the "trying to fix the bad boy" phase, but maybe they don't. For me, books like that are the epitome of trash. Reading bad literature is as bad as not reading at all. And what makes it worse is that those books are aimed at women and happen to be among the most anti-woman literature out there - the whole idea of creating a fantasy man who also happens to be ridiculously dominant and the female character pathetically submissive is just feeding ideas about gender imbalance and sexual control. Sure, that would be fine if it was somehow integral to the story and was trying to make a statement (as in, the novel is set in a time when women and men were unequal, or it's set in some grim future where things are unequal again, or a domestic abuse situation or some such), but the fact that this sexually unbalanced relationship exists just to fulfill fantasy kinda makes me sad, as a woman. I don't mind reading books about women in difficult situations if the woman is a character I can admire, but the fact that these women in these kinds of novels tend to be so submissive and obedient and instead take the man's lead rather than doing their own thing is disheartening, especially in this day and age. It's crazy that decades ago when women endured far more hardship that the so called "chick-lit" author Jane Austen was writing strong female characters, and now today's authors who enjoy far more freedom and respect are writing female characters who don't know how to do anything without a man and are submissive and obedient in almost every way. It makes me worry for the young girls who read Twilight and get ideas about how they should act and be around men from it. Women need to quit feeding into this stuff. There are much better, stronger female characters to relate to out there; characters that really show what it means to be a woman.

That isn't even getting into the ideas of ideal masculinity that these books promote.

Augmerson · 14-07-2012 02:25AM

I work in a bookshop. I ****ing love the amount of women coming in to buy this book. I give them the aul sly look when I ask them do they want a bag for it. Of course you do, your an Irish woman. You'd probably wrap it in wallpaper if you could.

LH Pathe · 14-07-2012 02:36AM

The success of it only proves that every woman loves to frig herself off

A_Sober_Paddy · 14-07-2012 02:43AM

Yes, but I pretty certain most guys know that by now

spankysue · 14-07-2012 02:44AM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I'd like to think that most women grow out of the "trying to fix the bad boy" phase, but maybe they don't. For me, books like that are the epitome of trash. Reading bad literature is as bad as not reading at all. And what makes it worse is that those books are aimed at women and happen to be among the most anti-woman literature out there - the whole idea of creating a fantasy man who also happens to be ridiculously dominant and the female character pathetically submissive is just feeding ideas about gender imbalance and sexual control. Sure, that would be fine if it was somehow integral to the story and was trying to make a statement (as in, the novel is set in a time when women and men were unequal, or it's set in some grim future where things are unequal again, or a domestic abuse situation or some such), but the fact that this sexually unbalanced relationship exists just to fulfill fantasy kinda makes me sad, as a woman. I don't mind reading books about women in difficult situations if the woman is a character I can admire, but the fact that these women in these kinds of novels tend to be so submissive and obedient and instead take the man's lead rather than doing their own thing is disheartening, especially in this day and age. It's crazy that decades ago when women endured far more hardship that the so called "chick-lit" author Jane Austen was writing strong female characters, and now today's authors who enjoy far more freedom and respect are writing female characters who don't know how to do anything without a man and are submissive and obedient in almost every way. It makes me worry for the young girls who read Twilight and get ideas about how they should act and be around men from it. Women need to quit feeding into this stuff. There are much better, stronger female characters to relate to out there; characters that really show what it means to be a woman.

That isn't even getting into the ideas of ideal masculinity that these books promote.

If you had read the books, you would know that the female character isn't actually submissive.

It's basically just a bit of fun, the storyline is just kind of thrown in around the sex but the sex gets you interested enough to keep reading

Don't over-analyse it, it's only fiction after all

LH Pathe · 14-07-2012 02:45AM

..to the concept of a trussed up gimp; half her age

LH Pathe · 14-07-2012 03:19AM

Doing my damndest bastard turn over here. Love me; all of you else settle for a book

ratedR · 14-07-2012 05:05AM

I think it just proves that most people are sheep and don't want to be left out.

I've actually seen people on facebook say things like "I've no idea what it's about but I've ordered it, cant wait, excited !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):D:D"

Curiousity got the better of me. I read up on it and the author and then I downloaded a pdf of the first book and skimmed through it.

It's a twilight fan fiction. It's basically the twilight story but with the names and situation changed, and lots of sex and chains and stuff. Except it's very poorly written by a woman in her 50's with a poor grasp on the perfect blowjob.

Granted, I'm a straight guy in my mid 20's, I'm certainly not the target audience. But either is any woman under the age of 50 in my opinion.

J. Marston · 14-07-2012 05:21AM

Twilight fan fiction.

Jesus Christ al-fúcking-mighty.

Father Damo · 14-07-2012 05:49AM

ratedR wrote: »

It's a twilight fan fiction. It's basically the twilight story but with the names and situation changed, and lots of sex and chains and stuff. Except it's very poorly written by a woman in her 50's with a poor grasp on the perfect blowjob.

Granted, I'm a straight guy in my mid 20's

You are a straight man and yet you know the plot of Twilight? :pac: Which beg the question, what is a woman in her 40s doing reading Twilight? I thought no girl over 17 even watches it.

Is there any site that has like a chapter or two serialised? I just want to see if it is as consistently semi literate as I have heard.

IrishEyes19 · 14-07-2012 07:10AM

The generalisations of women is unbelievable here. no not every woman loves a bastard and not every woman is rushing out to read this. nor does every woman follow twilight. If people want to read this however, get of your high horses, its only a book and theres no harm in making your own mind up on something. I dont intend to read it but its the haters making more of a hype than the supporters in my opinion.

Scanlas The 2nd · 14-07-2012 07:14AM

IrishEyes19 wrote: »

The generalisations of women is unbelievable here. no not every woman loves a bastard and not every woman is rushing out to read this. nor does every woman follow twilight. If people want to read this however, get of your high horses, its only a book and theres no harm in making your own mind up on something. I dont intend to read it but its the haters making more of a hype than the supporters in my opinion.

Did anyone say every single woman reads it. Generalisations are necessary to have discussions without using "on average" 50 times per paragraph for example.

Canis Lupus · 14-07-2012 07:16AM

Father Damo wrote: »

Which beg the question, what is a woman in her 40s doing reading Twilight? I thought no girl over 17 even watches it.

I know an awful lot of women in their late twenties early thirties who get wet just mentioning Twilight. To them it has been more analysed and broken down than the Shakespeare play they had to study in school.

I kid you not a group of them had a get together/party to watch the latest trailer release...

Words cannot explain how f**king WEIRD women can be.

Father Damo · 14-07-2012 08:39AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I know an awful lot of women in their late twenties early thirties who get wet just mentioning Twilight. To them it has been more analysed and broken down than the Shakespeare play they had to study in school.

I kid you not a group of them had a get together/party to watch the latest trailer release...

Words cannot explain how f**king WEIRD women can be.

Jesus! Ireland must be going thru a boredom epidemic with unemployed people prepared to mull away the day reading/ watching any old shyte. Can only think of two women I know into that Twilight gash. And one of them is, as Alan Partridge would term her, mildly cretinous.

Compare that to this 50 Shades stuff, not sure I know a woman not reading it by now.

Handsome Bob · 14-07-2012 08:58AM

Pottler wrote: »

So, is it settled? Do women like bastards? I sneakily think they do. Pity really.

I think I can sum up all the threads on the topic for you: some like bastards, some don't. But mostly they just want a bloke to have a bit of confidence and assertiveness and to not be a doormat.

Think I saved a few posters the bother of writing an essay there.

davetherave · 14-07-2012 09:05AM

I've read it a few times now, but I just don't see what is so great about it.

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Daveysil15 · 14-07-2012 09:06AM

I wonder is the book popular in places like Russia and Asia where the women are more feminine.

billybudd · 14-07-2012 09:14AM

I think people who are maybe not normally sexually open will love it and people who are open minded regarding sex will just find it badly written and cliched.

billybudd · 14-07-2012 09:15AM

Daveysil15 wrote: »

I wonder is the book popular in places like Russia and Asia where the women are more feminine.

Ha i take it you have been to neither place.

Canis Lupus · 14-07-2012 09:21AM

If there's not at least: Some magic/space ship/zombies then a book isn't worth reading imo :P

Sarcasm Much? · 14-07-2012 09:23AM

Handsome Bob wrote: »

I think I can sum up all the threads on the topic for you: some like bastards, some don't. But mostly they just want a bloke to have a bit of confidence and assertiveness and to not be a doormat.

Think I saved a few posters the bother of writing an essay there.

Absolutely! You hit the nail on the head

AhInFairness, I'd say a lot are caught up in the hype but the same can be said for popular movies/music etc.
Sometimes you just want a bit of brain fluff that will keep you occupied for a few hours. Not everyone want's to read award winning novels all of the time but if you did then I'd say you would be bitterly disappointed.
There's no denying it, she is not the best writer out there by a long shot.

Bubblypop, I'm off to google Nancy Friday, something tells me I have been rather sheltered when it comes to kinky reading material but I'm more than willing to change that!

Oh, and I don't own a single cat

Lol

Does the success of '50 Shades Of Grey' prove that every woman loves a bastard?

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