Pride in our winners

kneemos · 12-07-2012 08:23PM #1

Anybody else not get the whole nationalistic thing when someone wins a medal or competition

My name is URL · 12-07-2012 08:24PM

And what's the deal with Airline food?

Where To · 12-07-2012 08:25PM

kneemos wrote: »

Anybody else not get the whole nationalistic thing when someone wins a medal or competition

Depends on whether or not I have backed them.

Sauve · 12-07-2012 08:26PM

My name is URL wrote: »

And what's the deal with Airline food?

Those darned peanuts.

Pushtrak · 12-07-2012 08:28PM

Being proud for accidents of geography is fairly sad, tbh.

Chuck Stone · 12-07-2012 08:30PM

I like seeing Irish people doing well, of course, but not solely Irish folk. I was shouting for Andy Murray the other day at the Wimbledon finals. Would love to have seen him win.

Katie for gold!

Lando Griffin · 12-07-2012 08:30PM

I get it especially when someone has trained all their lives and realise their dream. what's better is when some wisecrack rich kid wins a medal only for it to be stripped of them again and never being able to represent their nation again out of shame

Culleeo · 12-07-2012 08:31PM

I get all Nationalistic when they get to the final.

Me "Katie Taylor is in the final"
Missus "That's great"
Me "Yeah, I'm delighted, I'm meeting the lads for a few pints to watch it"
Missus "You've no interest in that"
Me "Yes I do, I've been watching it all along, see you later"

*Door slams*

BraziliaNZ · 12-07-2012 08:33PM

Yes of course we do, I hope Katie wins gold, she deserves it, has done a lot for women's boxing

Dyr · 12-07-2012 08:36PM

Pushtrak wrote: »

Being proud for accidents of geography is fairly sad, tbh.

How are you with accidents of birth?

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 12-07-2012 08:38PM

Pushtrak wrote: »

Being proud for accidents of geography is fairly sad, tbh.

That point of view is fairly sad, tbh.

Rasheed · 12-07-2012 08:39PM

Pushtrak wrote: »

Being proud for accidents of geography is fairly sad, tbh.

What you mean?

hondasam · 12-07-2012 08:41PM

kneemos wrote: »

Anybody else not get the whole nationalistic thing when someone wins a medal or competition

Yes I always want who ever is competing for us to win. I would always feel proud of them.

My name is URL · 12-07-2012 08:44PM

Pushtrak wrote: »

Being proud for accidents of geography is fairly sad, tbh.

I dunno, imo being proud of the country you live in and the society you contribute to isn't sad. Though some people do take it to extremes.

Shryke · 12-07-2012 08:46PM

Pushtrak wrote: »

Being proud for accidents of geography is fairly sad, tbh.

We are a culture and a society all our own. It's only sad if you can't see that and appreciate it even just a bit.

I'm not into sport but I could still watch the Galway/Kilkenny match and Wimbledon. I was cheering for Murray, went channel hopping and came across Galway trouncing Kilkenny in the Leinster final. It was hilarious.

I'm looking forward to seeing Katie take gold.

Pantsface · 12-07-2012 08:48PM

Rasheed wrote: »

What you mean?

talking out of his hole

dirtyden · 12-07-2012 08:49PM

I think it's fantastic. I will be shouting for all our athletes at the olympics.

These people have worked incredibly hard to acheive excellence in their athletic field, ordinary people who have dedicated their lifes to excel at something. They are representing their country and I will be proud of them all, whether we get medals or not.

I dont see anything to be ashamed of supporting my country's competitors in the olympics or my club or county in GAA.

If that is simple I will revel in my simplicity.

twinytwo · 12-07-2012 08:59PM

kneemos wrote: »

Anybody else not get the whole nationalistic thing when someone wins a medal or competition

Im more worried about consistantly getting shafted in sport because we are a small nation.

twinytwo · 12-07-2012 09:00PM

dirtyden wrote: »

I think it's fantastic. I will be shouting for all our athletes at the olympics.

These people have worked incredibly hard to acheive excellence in their athletic field, ordinary people who have dedicated their lifes to excel at something. They are representing their country and I will be proud of them all, whether we get medals or not.

I dont see anything to be ashamed of supporting my country's competitors in the olympics or my club or county in GAA.

If that is simple I will revel in my simplicity.

And yet most of them have to train outside the country

kneemos · 12-07-2012 09:02PM

Going on about Italia 90 is just embarrasing at this stage and we did'nt even win anything.Ronnie Delaney won gold in 1956 apparently.

Praetorian Saighdiuir · 12-07-2012 09:03PM

kneemos wrote: »

Anybody else not get the whole nationalistic thing when someone wins a medal or competition

I am proud of anyone who represents Ireland in any field. sporting or otherwise.

Pushtrak wrote: »

Being proud for accidents of geography is fairly sad, tbh.

Here you go with this line again. I respect that we all have opinions but I still cant seem to wrap my head around yours and hopefull I never will.

dirtyden · 12-07-2012 09:08PM

twinytwo wrote: »

And yet most of them have to train outside the country

What is your point?

And who are the most who train outside the country?

Our current best swimmer Grainne Murphy trains in Limerick mainly, boxers predominantly train with their own irish gyms, most of our athletes would train in Ireland too. There will be some on US scholarships who for obvious reasons train abroad. Does training abroad negate their irishness?http://www.olympicsport.ie/

You will find olympic team on here, if a third trained abroad I would be surprised.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 12-07-2012 09:13PM

I hope Katie Taylor wins gold in London, she has been at the top of her game for a long time and it would be the icing on the cake for her. If she does win I'll be proud for her, not necessarily because she's Irish but because I admire her.

Likewise I won't feel ashamed when other Irish athletes don't perform to the required standard and finish in lowly positions.

Pushtrak · 12-07-2012 09:16PM

Bambi wrote: »

How are you with accidents of birth?

benwavner wrote: »

Here you go with this line again. I respect that we all have opinions but I still cant seem to wrap my head around yours and hopefull I never will.

"Oh I was born in ________" or "I was brought up in __________" is an accident of Geography. A combination of where your parents are from and where they decide to live. I don't see why it should be a source of pride. Be proud of your own stuff. It makes no more sense than to be proud to be male/female, your ethnicity, et cetera. Be proud because you did _________ rather than some nonsense.

kneemos · 12-07-2012 09:17PM

Why does everybody want Katie Taylor to win so much.

cocoshovel · 12-07-2012 09:25PM

Out of all the sporting events in the world, The Olympics is the one I like the most. And ye negative nazi f*cks arent going to to ruin it for me!!

twinytwo · 12-07-2012 09:34PM

dirtyden wrote: »

What is your point?

And who are the most who train outside the country?

Our current best swimmer Grainne Murphy trains in Limerick mainly, boxers predominantly train with their own irish gyms, most of our athletes would train in Ireland too. There will be some on US scholarships who for obvious reasons train abroad. Does training abroad negate their irishness?http://www.olympicsport.ie/

You will find olympic team on here, if a third trained abroad I would be surprised.

I dont think you understand how bad things are here, compared to other countries, the facilaties for anything outside GAA in this country is a joke.
There are no high performance centers in this country, hell most athletes are lucky if they even get access to the required physio's and doctors.
How many foreign athletes come here to train??? ... and you expect our own to stay... also the amount of bull**** politics that goes on in this country especailly within athletics is comical.

If Katie Taylor a 4 time world champion cant even get showers in her gym what chance does anyone else have.

kneemos · 12-07-2012 09:35PM

Will you feel proud of Germany or France when they win a medal.

old hippy · 12-07-2012 09:41PM

cocoshovel wrote: »

Out of all the sporting events in the world, The Olympics is the one I like the most. And ye negative nazi f*cks arent going to to ruin it for me!!

I love the Olympics, too. Got tickets for a couple of events but feeling "pride"? Nah, I'll leave that to the flag wavers and other vegetables.

twinytwo · 12-07-2012 09:45PM

kneemos wrote: »

Why does everybody want Katie Taylor to win so much.

why would we want her to win? she is prob our best athlete going into the games and our main hope for a gold... and she is a damn fine boxer.

dirtyden · 12-07-2012 09:46PM

twinytwo wrote: »

I dont think you understand how bad things are here, compared to other countries, the facilaties for anything outside GAA in this country is a joke.
There are no high performance centers in this country, hell most athletes are lucky if they even get access to the required physio's and doctors.
How many foreign athletes come here to train??? ... and you expect our own to stay... also the amount of bull**** politics that goes on in this country especailly within athletics is comical.

If Katie Taylor a 4 time world champion cant even get showers in her gym what chance does anyone else have.

Limerick university has excellent facilities, athletes from all over the world visit renowned limerick sports physio Gerald Hartmann.

The point you made was that most of out athletes train abroad, they don't. We do not have facilities that match a lot of other countries that is true, and it really should be improved upon, but we do have some decent facilities and tracks. Athletics is not a mainstream sport in Ireland but we still have produced some fine athletes.

What other countries are you comparing us to? Name me a country of a similar size and population where athletics is not mainstream who has state of the art facilities? The facilites have improved recently though, but much needs to be done.

And anyhow our athletes training abroad would not make them less irish. Should we not support our team because our facilities are not state of the art, again what is your point?

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