Giant's Causeway is 6000 years old???

Crooked Jack · 06-07-2012 11:33AM #1

Probably an inappropriate turn of phrase to use but...Oh my God!
The Giant's Causeway, one of only three UNESCO World Heritage Sites in Ireland and the only one in Ulster, has given space at the Causeway Centre (run by the National Trust) to the creationist theory of how the Causeway was formed.
Is this utterly ridiculous or just being sensitive to the beliefs of some?
Personally I think it's idiotic on practically every level. The trust shouldn't be promoting any religious belief, they should concentrate exclusively on the science.
If they are going to promote religious beliefs why this specific one? Why not all of them? Lets have a wing for Scientology and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster while we're at it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/national-trust-in-giants-causeway-creationism-row-7917687.html

southcentralts · 06-07-2012 11:35AM

Show me one 6,000 year old atom and I will listen to what you say.

smash · 06-07-2012 11:35AM

The higgs boson created it!

krudler · 06-07-2012 11:36AM

Creationists are idiots, and shouldn't be pandered to.

paddy147 · 06-07-2012 11:38AM

Tom Cruise created it

Fizman · 06-07-2012 11:38AM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster while we're at it.

Where do I sign?

Biggins · 06-07-2012 11:38AM

krudler wrote: »

Creationists are idiots, and shouldn't be pandered to.

Yep, they in their nuttiness will argue with an older assessment.
It might conflict with their daftness. :pac:

smash · 06-07-2012 11:39AM

paddy147 wrote: »

Tom Cruise created it

No, that was the Highway to the dangerzone!

Father Damo · 06-07-2012 11:39AM

krudler wrote: »

Creationists are idiots, and shouldn't be pandered to.

They are. But neither should foaming at the mouth millitant athiests.

At least alot of devout Christians know that deep down they might be talking sh1t. Athiests actually believe their own sh1t.

martomcg · 06-07-2012 11:40AM

Religion should have no place in a facility like this. Its not like its some fleeting science that show how old the Causeway is, its fact that they were formed 60 million years ago. End of!

Last thing we need is international tourists coming here and thinking we're morons.

Religion should have no part of any educational facility imho

06-07-2012 11:40AM

I don't know why we give creationists the value of the discussion, they're better left ignored to rot in their stupidity.

Carles Puyol · 06-07-2012 11:41AM

Thought we had moved past all the creationist shít..

Bad Panda · 06-07-2012 11:41AM

Impossible.

Everyone knows the earth is only 2,000 years old.

JohnMarston · 06-07-2012 11:43AM

When you say creationists of course you mean the ones that think the world was created in six literal days a few thousand years ago and that dinosaurs are a hoax.

ejmaztec · 06-07-2012 11:43AM

I've never met anyone from any religion dumb enough to believe that the planet is 6000 year's old.

krudler · 06-07-2012 11:43AM

Father Damo wrote: »

They are. But neither should foaming at the mouth millitant athiests.

At least alot of devout Christians know that deep down they might be talking sh1t. Athiests actually believe their own sh1t.

That the earth isn't 6000 years old? we know its not, ergo creationists are idiots for believing it. that's not militant atheism (whatever the fcuk that is) its common sense and basic science.

krudler · 06-07-2012 11:45AM

ejmaztec wrote: »

I've never met anyone from any religion dumb enough to believe that the planet is 6000 year's old.

more than you'd think: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/americans-believe-in-creationism_n_1571127.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

Pedant · 06-07-2012 11:45AM

The excuse - "an alternative viewpoint".

Okay, fair enough. Accordingly, we should include all alternate viewpoints of how the Earth came into being, not just the creationist Christian viewpoint. Or does refraining from hypocrisy fail most creationist Christians?

It's nonsense. The most accurate and scientific theory of the day should be the only one included.

Also, I'm not surprised this happened in Northern Ireland given it's large non-Catholic population. I'm not defending Catholics but I think you get more of these fundamentalists and creationist nutcases in certain Protestant sects than you do in Catholicism - maybe this is why creationism hasn't really took off down south. Just look at the US, a bastion of Protestantism and fundamentalist Christianity and nearly half of its population believes in creationism. Northern Ireland is also a lot more conservative than the Republic. Just look at the Iris Robinson and her views on homosexuality, etc., towing the same line as many of those Born Again Christians in the US.

prinz · 06-07-2012 11:46AM

"Praise be to Jesus!!......as my mother would say" - Sheldon Cooper.

To answer the OP...utterly ridiculous.

Crooked Jack · 06-07-2012 11:47AM

Fizman wrote: »

Where do I sign?

here

http://www.venganza.org/

Jester252 · 06-07-2012 11:48AM

is there going to be the same space to explain the myth about its formation.

krudler · 06-07-2012 11:51AM

Jester252 wrote: »

is there going to be the same space to explain the myth about its formation.

a giant made it? thats crazy talk, everyone knows it was a space wizard.

ejmaztec · 06-07-2012 11:51AM

krudler wrote: »

more than you'd think: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/americans-believe-in-creationism_n_1571127.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

I'd like to think that most of them didn't realise that they were supposed to believe in the 6000 year planet-age along with everything else that Creationism stands for.:eek:

Gurgle · 06-07-2012 11:51AM

krudler wrote: »

That the earth isn't 6000 years old? we know its not, ergo creationists are idiots for believing it. that's not militant atheism (whatever the fcuk that is) its common sense and basic science.

A militant atheist can only be identified by exclusion: A non militant atheist is one who quietly goes to mass and mumbles along with everyone else.

As for this nonsense: It's NI and involves religion, you may as well try to explain the Higgs boson to a burning bush.

krudler · 06-07-2012 11:54AM

Gurgle wrote: »

A militant atheist can only be identified by exclusion: A non militant atheist is one who quietly goes to mass and mumbles along with everyone else.

As for this nonsense: It's NI and involves religion, you may as well try to explain the Higgs boson to a burning bush.

depends on the bush, some are quite chatty

Crooked Jack · 06-07-2012 11:55AM

Father Damo wrote: »

They are. But neither should foaming at the mouth millitant athiests.

At least alot of devout Christians know that deep down they might be talking sh1t. Athiests actually believe their own sh1t.

I agree with you there. But my point is that neither of them have any business airing their views at the Causeway Centre.

prinz · 06-07-2012 12:06PM

Gurgle wrote: »

A militant atheist can only be identified by exclusion: A non militant atheist is one who quietly goes to mass and mumbles along with everyone else..

Total rubbish tbh.

Lisandro · 06-07-2012 12:31PM

This is an absolute disgrace. The existence of alternative views does not make them right, nor does it make them valid. Especially given that it has been proven beyond any form of conceivable doubt that the world is 4.6 billion years old, that life evolved through evolution by natural selection and that the Giant's Causeway was formed through volcanic activity, not only are all the religion-based explanations based on myths, but only one explanation can be right, and it's the explanation we've arrived at through generations of meticulous scientific investigation. To suggest that "alternative worldviews" are valid is an insult to the very idea of scientific truth. There's no excuse to give any oxygen to this myth because not only is there no evidence supporting it, but there is conclusive evidence against it. The Causeway Centre has given in to the desires of creationists to see their redundant worldview propogated, and I think that's a scandal in any modern scientific society.

Father Damo wrote: »

They are. But neither should foaming at the mouth millitant athiests...at least alot of devout Christians know that deep down they might be talking sh1t. Athiests actually believe their own sh1t.

Would you care to back up that snark, or are ad hominem attacks the only arguments you're capable of making?

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I agree with you there. But my point is that neither of them have any business airing their views at the Causeway Centre.

When the Causeway Centre promotes religious untruths, yes, it is absolutely my business. It's not acceptable that ancient falsified myths should be placed on the same footing as established scientific theories.

Scioch · 06-07-2012 12:38PM

Father Damo wrote: »

They are. But neither should foaming at the mouth millitant athiests.

At least alot of devout Christians know that deep down they might be talking sh1t. Athiests actually believe their own sh1t.

There is no difference in the beliefs of atheists as they are only associated by a lack of belief. The only difference is in the level of hostility towards religion.

And Christians have no idea they are talking shít because they are incapable of understanding what they are actually talking about. There is no scenario where a Christians belief outweighs an atheists no matter how militant because one is based on reason and logic no matter how hostile they are in expressing it and the other is based on absolute horseshít.

krudler · 06-07-2012 12:41PM

there's a creationist "museum" in the States that shows people interacting with dinosaurs, including saddled ones.

a saddle.

on a dinosaur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2O3kvvTxPk

ejmaztec · 06-07-2012 12:43PM

krudler wrote: »

there's a creationist "museum" in the States that shows people interacting with dinosaurs, including saddled ones.

a saddle.

on a dinosaur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2O3kvvTxPk

Surely you must have watched the Flinstones?

Giant's Causeway is 6000 years old???

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