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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭ArseLtd




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    All these points and yet we all know that the op just wants to smoke it.

    Anyway, I dont see why we dont use it for other, not so far out reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭ArseLtd


    All these points and yet we all know that the op just wants to smoke it.

    I can smoke it. I can anytime. I just don't want a criminal record for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    The wikipedia page makes it sound well used, particularly in cars...
    A mixture of fibreglass, hemp fiber, kenaf, and flax has been used since 2002 to make composite panels for automobiles. The choice of which bast fiber to use is primarily based on cost and availability. Various car makers are beginning to use hemp in their cars, including Audi, BMW, Ford, GM, Chrysler, Honda, Iveco, Lotus, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Porsche, Saturn, Volkswagen and Volvo. The Lotus Eco Elise has hemp in it. The Mercedes C-Class has up to 20 kg of hemp in each car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    ^This.

    We can't discount the danger of this type of incident happening on an almost hourly basis.



    The dangers of licking a hemp shirt are manifold.:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭TheStook


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    I fucking hate The Doors.

    Why, may I ask?
    OT, I agree, harmless,beautiful plant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭dttq


    We can talk all we want about the benefits of hemp until the cows come home, the point is that we are not going to see it becoming legal. Mainly because of the stigma and unscientific views held by so many politicians and the electorate around the issue. Not to mention that most people don't realise alcohol is a drug, a dangerous drug in fact with more dangerous side effects and health issues surrounding it than cannabis. And yet

    "That fella went out and got smashed over the weekend".

    REACTION: Ha ha ha ha

    Now

    "That fella smoked some cannabis over the weekend"

    REACTION: "Oh god no, how could he do that, I always thought he was a good person. Doesnt he not know he's taking a dangerous drug. Next thing you know he'll be shooting heroin in run down houses."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    When carbon trading settles in as a socio-economic, we'll have hemp coming out of our arses. That stuff sequesters it at a phenomenal rate.
    Tricky bit bit is controlling it. Its name weed didn't come about because its easy to control.
    Absolutely incredible plant though, so many uses.
    Its comeback is inevitable. And I don't even smoke it (anymore)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Tomk1


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I vote no - I'd be afraid that someone wearing a hemp jumper beside me on the bus would get me so high that I strip naked jump out the bus window and get hit by some on-coming truck.
    This is an example of the misconceptions from the properganda that the cotten & paper-mill industries made, calling Hemp (non-THC) = marijuana, that an ultracrepidarian would make.

    Thanks OP, I read all of your post.
    The only way I see this grown, is as a non-THC GM plant renamed a different product, away from the stigma that the Hemp name has, ie being associated with dopeheads & hippie clothes...queue snigger snigger from someone wearing canvas jeans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    When carbon trading settles in as a socio-economic, we'll have hemp coming out of our arses. That stuff sequesters it at a phenomenal rate.
    Tricky bit bit is controlling it. Its name weed didn't come about because its easy to control.
    Absolutely incredible plant though, so many uses.
    Its comeback is inevitable. And I don't even smoke it (anymore)

    Is that why you are AngryHippie now?
    The wikipedia page makes it sound well used, particularly in cars...

    Cheech and Chong did it years ago too. That was an amazing documentary


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    LUKE ‘MING’ FLANAGAN wore a Louis Copeland suit made out of hemp in the Dáil chamber this morning to highlight the 10 year anniversary of his campaign to have cannabis legalised.
    A spokesperson for Louis Copeland confirmed that it was the first time the high-end tailor had created a suit made out of hemp.
    Speaking to theJournal.ie, the TD for Roscommon-Leitrim South said that he had bought the material outside of Ireland but that the suit had been made in Dublin. “If I could have purchased it here, I would have,” he said.
    The hemp suit is “very comfortable, excellent material, and it’ll be my attire for many an occasion from now on,” said the TD.
    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=luke%20ming%20flanagan%20hemp%20suit&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBsQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Fluke-ming-flanagan-wears-hemp-suit-in-the-dail-275244-Nov2011%2F&ei=H5y7TuHlHNGHhQfi4syhBw&usg=AFQjCNHJUcmBxV7_jE5aoO06bcXb-k5B4A. Ming is all for it :-)

    (This was last year)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    ArseLtd wrote: »
    Same reason were not driving electric cars, vested interests. It's the ones with all the money that have the power.
    That argument doesn't hold up as according to the OP we were all growing and using hemp for thousands of years before we switched to cotton. We don't switch to electric cars because they are more expensive, more awkward and are less flexible. That's the opposite of what it is claimed happened with cotton. We apparently switched from something cheap and altogether fantastic to a more expensive and crappier product. It doesn't ring true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    It should simply be made legal and should be used.

    How does one go about its legalisation though?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    That argument doesn't hold up as according to the OP we were all growing and using hemp for thousands of years before we switched to cotton. We don't switch to electric cars because they are more expensive, more awkward and are less flexible. That's the opposite of what it is claimed happened with cotton. We apparently switched from something cheap and altogether fantastic to a more expensive and crappier product. It doesn't ring true.
    Now I'm going from memory here so... IIRC it's pretty much down to the US of A and vested interests and other issues there. EG Randolph Hearst the publishing magnate was also a heavy investor in forestry. Now much of that was being grown for paper production. Hemp was a direct competitor for that market so Hearst wanted it out of the market and with the power of the media could do this. The lobbyists for the southern cotton states were also heavily vested in having hemp removed from the market. Even oil producers and the petrochemical industry on the back of them saw hemp as a competitor. In a culture of industrial "barons" like the the US was competition was often squeezed out.

    There were practical issues too. Cotton harvesting was easier to mechanise in them days. Mechanised hemp harvesting never really took off at the time. That put a lot of people off. Storing hemp can be more troublesome too as it's more prone to rot than cotton. It also requires more bleaching(which isn't as hippie green). It also pongs a bit in it's unprocessed state and removing that used to be tricky back in the day.

    There are a lot of reasons why it;s not as used today. Many of those reasons are vested interests, followed by practical things. Today it's not used so much, because the existing machinery is geared up for other products and it still has that inaccurate connection with getting monged. The hemp we're discussing has very very little of the THC of the Indica variety. Teeny amounts. It also has a different growth habit, leggier taller. You'd need to smoke an acre of the stuff to get the same bang as one pull on skunk.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Whilst I agree that hemp is a brilliant product and we should be utilising it much more I have to correct people on the percieved Cotton 'conspiracy'

    The industrial revolution was spearheaded by Cotton, the reason cotton acquired such a masive market share was that compard to Hemp or Flax it was far far simpler to industrialise the processing of it. remember that england could grow hemp and flax at the time but still chose to import cotton to process in its mills.

    I do think its time to reevaluate all aspects of the Hemp prohibition and come up with some realistic policies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    ArseLtd wrote: »
    Sure go on, you've nothing better to do

    no he doesn't :mad: Nothingbetter2do doesn't swing that way


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    It should simply be made legal and should be used.

    How does one go about its legalisation though?

    it'll never happen due to communist Ireland.
    You're told whats what and that's it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    Won't be long till it's grown again, our German friends want it legalized so once it happens there sure we'll be next

    22/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭ryoishin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭ArseLtd


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Sorry?? I'm willing to believe that cannabis and extracts from the plant may have some medicinal benefits, most notably in pain relief but 'used to successfully treat many types of tumors'?

    Give me a break.



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