Proof of 'God particle' found

You know whats worse than the religious aspect of the discussion ? People with no interest in discussing anything coming in to complain about the religious aspect of the discussion.

By all means join in and contribute something worth reading yourselves if you dont find the discussion satisfactory.

DarkDusk wrote: »

It takes too much effort to read through this thread because of all the idiotic posts.

The Higgs Boson has nothing to do with religion, so can we now stop referring to religion and "God", and hopefully have a meaningful discussion about what happened today, and what is yet to come.







That was worth a try, but there's always one that won't listen!

yeah posts like yours are sooooooooo useful :rolleyes:

Master of Nothing wrote: »

The problem with the emboldened part, is that the thread is in AH. Yes, it may bring some news that many people may not have otherwise known about, but may have been interested to find out, yet I would imagine that a thread abot something of this magnitude in the scientific community would be much better suited to the physics forum.

There is a thread in the physics forum. I have no issue with the discussion however it goes but offering nothing but a complaint about how its going while making no effort to discuss it as you want it discussed is a bit pointless.

Just watched Stephen Fry on room 101 giving out about critics wasting their lives with their only contribution to anything was to tell others their contributions werent good enough. He had a point.

Pedant wrote: »

OMG man, they excited the Higgs field that goes around the entire universe! That's like sending a message around the entire universe giving coordinates to Earths location! In the next few months we'll have all sorts of advanced aliens invading us from around the universe. It's like the end of the world people, 2012 was a real prophecy man.

Probably come round to complain and tell us to please stop interfering with the field while they play planetary bowls.

^^ According to him the higgs boson makes the quanta which makes the higgs field. I thought it was a particle which interacted with the field rather than the field itself.

Or is it the same thing ?

delad wrote: »

not true, it will lead to the development of an extremely low cost food source

It will lead??? Really?? - You know this how btw?

Pushtrak wrote: »

Would be awesome if there was an addition to the "this year we'll be infracting for..." to make, perhaps a "this month..." No prizes for guessing what I'd nominate.

Is there? Can you elaborate?

Dave! wrote: »

A Church/religion is a monolithic organisation that is dedicated to a particular dogma, and disciplines priests who speak out against that dogma. There is no incentive for rebelling against this. They also provide no evidence for their claims.

The dogmatic claim on religion has been over-estimated. It depends on the religion and the time. Most modern Atheists don't seem like they have bothered a history book, and get their ideas from Dawkins, but Christianity in particular has in fact been far from hostile to science. If it were, we wouldn't have science.

Science researchers are employed by a whole array of different organisations, and are free to speak out against particular orthodoxies. In fact the scientific community rewards discoveries that overthrow previously accepted theories. Scientists are also expected to present evidence to support their claims, and publish them to be scrutinized by their peers.

Not all of this is true. There are science reports which rubbish the idea of smoking causing cancer for instance. And plenty of eminent physicists - like Freeman Dyson - oppose the consensus on global warming. Money chagnes the science. The main point is though, from the point of the layman - a phrase which comes from religion - a scientist is like a priest, pronouncing from on high. The only way to understand science is to read the maths. If you cant, you are believing it on faith.

I also doubt the commitment to science from the Left wing of the atheist movement. There have been numerous attacks on science from the left, mostly in fact against Darwinism - Dawkins seems to have forgotten those - for instance Edward O. Wilson was physically attacked for his darwinist views in the seventies, because the protester believed in the blank slate idea of human nature, an idea which is still common to left wing academe. Or look up lysenko. There is far more threat there than from Catholicism, which only cares about science when it affects God, a limited range.

DeadParrot wrote: »

The levels of stupidity in this thread would make you question evolution to be fair.
Consider the fact that for 3.8 billion years, a period of time older than the Earth's mountains and rivers and oceans, everyone of your forbears on both sides has been attractive enough to find a mate, healthy enough to reproduce, and sufficiently blessed by fate and circumstances to live long enough to do so. Not one of your pertinent ancestors was squashed, devoured, drowned, starved, stranded, stuck fast, untimely wounded, or otherwise deflected from it's life quest of delivering a tiny charge of genetic material to the right partner at the right moment in order to perpetuate the only possible sequence of hereditary combinations that could result - eventually, astoundingly, and all to briefly-in some absolute ****ing idiots in this thread

I think you have added to the level of stupidity in this thread by posting an off topic rant totally unrelated to the Higgs Boson, no?

delad wrote: »

not true, it will lead to the development of an extremely low cost food source

no, it won't.