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Jericho "suspended indefinitely"

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  • #62
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Much like India, it's an untapped mass of fans to shill your product too. If they can get a good TV deal, it'll all be new and awesome to them. This kind of thing is where WWE make money!


  • #63
    Mr.Saturn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Not quite sure how lucrative the Brazilian market really is to WWE, only 5000-6000 were at the house show in a city of 11.3 million people.

    Very, much like Ireland when WWE start producing shows here again in the mid-00's in the old Point. A starved fanbase, guaranteed sellout, and coupled with a ton of merch sales to compensate for the relatively modest attendance figures.

    Also take into consideration that WWE charge a higher-standardized price for non-US/UK house shows.

    Besides, there are other things to consider, such as the marketability of being to claim to be selling out in non-traditional markets, makes the product seem more enticing to potential TV dealers, or indeed, the potential loss leader to penetrate a previously untapped market, as referenced.


  • #64
    Charlie Haughy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


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  • #65
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I should mention that WWE only recently secured a TV deal in Brazil. So they're unlikely to sell-out arenas if nobody knows who they are! But give it time. Massive untapped potential market.


  • #66
    GTR63
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    I should mention that WWE only recently secured a TV deal in Brazil. So they're unlikely to sell-out arenas if nobody knows who they are! But give it time. Massive untapped potential market.

    To put it into context UFC 147 with a fair poor card got 20m viewers in Brazil doubt wwe would ever get that big down there but its a large market alrite.


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  • #67
    Charisteas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Much like India, it's an untapped mass of fans to shill your product too. If they can get a good TV deal, it'll all be new and awesome to them. This kind of thing is where WWE make money!

    I should mention that WWE only recently secured a TV deal in Brazil. So they're unlikely to sell-out arenas if nobody knows who they are! But give it time. Massive untapped potential market.

    Brazil is a potential market but it's a lot more difficult than tapping into India is and to me it remains to be seen how successful they are in tapping into the market of a UFC crazy country. We all know people who watched WWF growing up who then grew out of it and started watching UFC instead, but i've never seen it in reverse. WWE also have The Great Khali on the roster who is a celebrity in his native India.


  • #68
    Charisteas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Mr.Saturn wrote: »
    Charisteas wrote: »
    Not quite sure how lucrative the Brazilian market really is to WWE, only 5000-6000 were at the house show in a city of 11.3 million people.

    Very, much like Ireland when WWE start producing shows here again in the mid-00's in the old Point. A starved fanbase, guaranteed sellout, and coupled with a ton of merch sales to compensate for the relatively modest attendance figures.

    The untapped Brazilian is nothing like the Irish market. Starved Irish fans were watching the Attitude Era in their tens of thousands in the late 90's and early 2000's twice a week on Sky Sports when they finally got their reward with about 10 shows in 3 years 2004-06. I can't see how the Brazilian market is a starved fanbase if they've never seen WWE on TV before.

    Dublin, city of 1 million, get 6400 sell out when WWE returned in 2004. Sao Paulo, city of 11 Million, get what 5500, wouldn't be surprised if WWE don't return back to Brazil in the near future or until they wait and see how well the new TV ratings do.


  • #69
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Brazil is a potential market but it's a lot more difficult than tapping into India[...]WWE also have The Great Khali on the roster who is a celebrity in his native India.

    Simples. Kofi is now from Brazil ala Dee-Jay. Voila!


  • #70
    Mr.Saturn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Charisteas wrote: »
    The untapped Brazilian is nothing like the Irish market. Starved Irish fans were watching the Attitude Era in their tens of thousands in the late 90's and early 2000's twice a week on Sky Sports when they finally got their reward with about 10 shows in 3 years 2004-06. I can't see how the Brazilian market is a starved fanbase if they've never seen WWE on TV before.

    Dublin, city of 1 million, get 6400 sell out when WWE returned in 2004. Sao Paulo, city of 11 Million, get what 5500, wouldn't be surprised if WWE don't return back to Brazil in the near future or until they wait and see how well the new TV ratings do.

    You're forgetting the fact that WWE had to postpone the first show on the Tuesday, after many months of planning, due to travel issues at the 11th hour and then reschedule for the Wednesday, and still pulled a crowd of 5,500.

    Besides, WWE has had exposure in Brazil from 2007 onwards, it was aired on FX Latin America. I'm not sure whether it was ECW, Afterburn, Bottom Line or Experience that was airing there, but it must've been enough to get decent ticket sales, initially.

    Those tens of thousands you mention were split between the UK and Ireland, as the only cit-able rating suggest(the vast majority of which must've been the former, due to the sheer scale of nations). Thus, I feel, Brazil/Ireland are on relatively comparable scales when it comes to house-show markets.


  • #71
    Roger Sterling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Roger Sterling


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Simples. Kofi is now from Brazil ala Dee-Jay. Voila!

    From Kofi Kingston the Jamaican to Kofi Sao Paolo the Brazilian.


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  • #72
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,167 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Where exactly is Kofi from and why are they saying he's from Ghana ("West Africa", ha) ??


  • #73
    ceegee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee


    Stereomaniac wrote: »
    Where exactly is Kofi from and why are they saying he's from Ghana ("West Africa", ha) ??

    AFAIK He is actually from Ghana and wanted to change from being billed as Jamaican cos he found the accent difficult to imitate, although it seems the merch dept didnt get the memo and still put jamaican flags on his tshirts


  • #74
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,167 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Yeah I noticed that, so I was pretty confused. I thought to myself, why would they pretend he's from Ghana, of all places, what market is Vince McMahon looking to corner there? He doesn't sound like he's African when he talks, I think I heard he was just born there.


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