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Sli nios fearr new political party in ireland will they be a sucess?

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  • #32
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    okay so its bad spelling,do you know a lot of FFers back in the day that got into politics were dyslexic and some never even did their L.Cert?

    As far as i can see he is no FFer why cant we give him a chance(just like weve given a lot of other parties chances like ff) and see?


  • #33
    Bad Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    Red_Wake wrote: »
    What's his manifesto?

    We should put it to the testo.


  • #34
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Duckworth_Luas wrote: »
    I like his manifesto, put it to the testo

    Wait a minute.........


  • #35
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    donations for membership are a tenner a year..


  • #36
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    For some unrelated reason, I've suddenly become reminded of this delightful chap.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvaeHllwtw


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  • #37
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    he reminds me of an inebriated fella i see on my regular travels around town..


  • #38
    mackg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Morlar wrote: »
    The way things are going I can't really see myself voting for an established political party.

    Sorry if I jumped to the wrong conclusion but I assumed you voted SF? When I say someone who knows what they are doing I don't necessarily mean an established party.
    christmas2012 wrote: »
    (1)How do we know for certain he doesnt know what hes doing that could be a little presumptous,its like when FG accused gerry adams of not knowing what hes doing..

    (2)I would rather someone with the right intentions,then some greedy shark thats in it for themselves and what they can get out of it..Like we have suffered in the past with FF..

    (1) It's up to him to show the electorate him and his new party know what they are doing, as opposed to electing him, seeing him fcuk up and proving he doesn't.

    (2) Someone with the right intentions but no clue what they are doing could be just as damaging. You said you would consider voting for him purely because his heart is in the right place.


  • #39
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    I would like to see someone with the right intentions as opposed to brown envelope ones..ya


  • #40
    kincsem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Do I get a free gun if I join?


  • #41
    mackg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    I would like to see someone with the right intentions as opposed to brown envelope ones..ya

    You seem to be ignoring the actual point of my post but anyway, how do you know his heart is in the right place apart from he says it is?


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  • #42
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    mackg wrote: »
    You seem to be ignoring the actual point of my post but anyway, how do you know his heart is in the right place apart from he says it is?


    I think from what he has written - he seems to have the right intentions..Better than all the greed we put up with from our populist parties..

    [/QUOTE]the idea of creating yet another tier of self -serving individuals masquerading as everyone’s saviour; but whilst we continue to blot out our fiscal woes with mild substance abuse, the tragic irony is we are the ones that keep on voting them in!
    In our decadent consumer led society, one thing is for sure, if you bought a box of soap powder from the supermarket that promised to remove stains, or in fact it totally ruined you Monday’s wash, then certainly there would be hell to play – and a refund of course.


  • #43
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    donations for membership are a tenner a year..

    I hope he's got enough tenners to hand over when we start signing up.


  • #44
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    depends on whether enough people sign up..As far as i can see he hasnt raised much publicity since,the limerick post,and his public walk,i havent heard a peep since..and in media land you can be forgotten very quickly..yesterdays news and all that..


  • #45
    Red_Wake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    How do we know for certain he doesnt know what hes doing that could be a little presumptous,its like when FG accused gerry adams of not knowing what hes doing..

    I would rather someone with the right intentions,then some greedy shark thats in it for themselves and what they can get out of it..Like we have suffered in the past with FF..

    They were right - Adams didn't even know the VAT rate.


  • #46
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Gerry adams mightnt have know but there were other members who did and were on top of their game,remember the debate with mary lou mcdonald or even pearse?


  • #47
    Red_Wake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    Gerry adams mightnt have know but there were other members who did and were on top of their game,remember the debate with mary lou mcdonald or even pearse?

    I find any debate with Shinners ends with Straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks tbh.


  • #48
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Granted they werent offering a solution to the crisis,they didnt offer any great alternatives for the NO side,so i think thats why they did so badly in the debate on primetime and frontline..


  • #49
    mackg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    I think from what he has written - he seems to have the right intentions..Better than all the greed we put up with from our populist parties..
    the idea of creating yet another tier of self -serving individuals masquerading as everyone’s saviour; but whilst we continue to blot out our fiscal woes with mild substance abuse, the tragic irony is we are the ones that keep on voting them in!
    In our decadent consumer led society, one thing is for sure, if you bought a box of soap powder from the supermarket that promised to remove stains, or in fact it totally ruined you Monday’s wash, then certainly there would be hell to play – and a refund of course.

    Anyone running for election, just the same as anyone going for any position will say they are the right person for the job. Saying they are doesn't mean they are. It goes without saying that anyone elected should have good intentions when in power but good intentions alone are not reason to elect them.

    I don't see how what you quoted tells us anything about the man tbh, the first half of what is there has been posted here before by a huge number of AH posters, does that mean they deserve a chance in government? I'm not dismissing the guy I'm just saying there is nothing on that site that goes any way to convincing me he deserves a vote.


  • #50
    Red_Wake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    Granted they werent offering a solution to the crisis,they didnt offer any great alternatives for the NO side,so i think thats why they did so badly in the debate on primetime and frontline..

    No solutions, no alternatives?

    And you advocate voting for them?


  • #51
    coolbeans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    The founder refers to social mobility in the transport section of his manifesto. The guy genuinely thinks that social mobility has got something to do with transport. He's also got some serious spelling errors all over his website. Incompetence, there's a reason not to vote for him.

    PS He also uses the term sustainability way too much. people like that generally have no idea what sustainability is or how to implement it.


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  • #52
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    mackg wrote: »
    Sorry if I jumped to the wrong conclusion but I assumed you voted SF? When I say someone who knows what they are doing I don't necessarily mean an established party.

    .

    I'd be aligned to them on certain issues but no party is 100% in line with my outlook. Btw I'd view SF as an Establishment party.


  • #53
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    coolbeans wrote: »
    The founder refers to social mobility in the transport section of his manifesto. The guy genuinely thinks that social mobility has got something to do with transport. .....

    If that's true I might just vote for him :) 'Idiot Savant No.1' This is starting to look more and more like a gigantic pisstake.


  • #54
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Red_Wake wrote: »
    No solutions, no alternatives?

    And you advocate voting for them?


    no,i dont advocate voting for SF,especially since they had no viable alternatives..

    But i would be interested in voting for someone else,other than Labour,FF,FG,Greens,SF,and ''independants(a lot are business sharks with second jobs only in it for status and extra wealth not the people a la mick wallace)there should be more political parties established,there should be more set up by ordinary people with the right intentions,and have members with political qualifications and the like..I suppose you can have all the qualifications sometimes all you need is the right instinct,over half the members of the dail have no political background other than their immediate membership of said organisation..Look at enda kenny he was a teacher in a past life..

    Im sick of seeing the brown enveloping parties get in..


  • #55
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    http://www.sli-nios-fearr.com/

    He done a walk to raise awarness for his party,do you know of anybody who has joined,or would you consider joining yourself?Do you think they could be a sucess?

    Don't know anyone who has joined.
    No would not consider joining myself.
    No they will not be a success. He could join forces with Declan Ganley, they will have the english accent in common.


  • #56
    Pedant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Pedant


    What we need is a party with an actual political ideology.

    Maybe something like "The Irish Libertarian Party" or "The Libertarian Party of Ireland".

    Not this ****e like "A Better Way", that's Fianna Fáil-esque. It doesn't actually mean anything, like "Soldier's of Destiny". It's not defined as to why they stand for. They could flip flop all they want. They could be left leaning one day, right leaning the next.


  • #57
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    there are a lot of 'centerists' about though..


  • #58
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not a single Fada was given. (seriously nowhere, idiots)


  • #59
    Stiffler2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    They have my vote already.

    No way are SF, L, FG, FF any of those c*nts getting anything from me ever again, except maybe a kick in the boll!x


  • #60
    Seanchai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    SocSocPol wrote: »
    I couldn't consider voting for yet another party with an unprouncable name.

    I can pronounce it perfectly, so perhaps the problem isn't with the name.
    swimming in a sea wrote: »
    I might be more interested if the party name was written in a language that I understand.

    Yeah, like Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and Sinn Féin? In the cultural intolerance of the Irish haters (most of whom have close personal links to Britain), Irish people can't have Irish parties with Irish names now, it seems. :rolleyes:


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  • #61
    Seanchai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    bnt wrote: »
    Perhaps someone should tell this wannabe politician that Dail elections are also open to people from the UK, few of whom will be able to speak Klingon Gaelic Irish. Google Translate can only do so much ...

    This is among the most stupid things ever written here. And that's saying something. Seriously retarded. Because British people move to Ireland the Irish should abandon Irish culture in order to facilitate them? In hindsight, 'retarded' doesn't do justice to your idea.


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