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Quinn found guilty of contempt of court

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  • #32
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Knowing this country he'll get a night or two before some token "efforts" are made to undo what they did and that'll be that. As I said on another thread he and the rest should be kept in custody until everything has been accounted for and returned and then maybe 30 days on top of that.


  • #33
    MultiUmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭MultiUmm


    I can't help but grin and roll my eyes to heaven at the same time when a teacher in my primary school used to laud him as a mathematical and business minded genius, making it out as if we should've all strived to be like Mr. Quinn. :rolleyes: And that same teacher was the one teaching us extra maths, there's surely a hint of irony in there somewhere. :D


  • #34
    podgemonster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    He'll get a very short term (weeks rather than months) if at all, and it will be in a minimum security facility, with protection from other inmates, a nice room to himself and 3 meals a day, a warm shower and probably a telly with the bogger channels.

    Probably a lot more comfortably than some families out there who couldn't afford dinner this evening.


  • #35
    Scioch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    Waste of money housing him and feeding him. Tag him and let him off up the mountains to fend for himself for a few months.


  • #36
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Mountjoy is full

    He'll likely go to Loughan House

    Up in his part of the country in Cavan and it's minimum security

    Wikipedia tells me
    The Centre has an operational capacity of 160 adult male inmates who have been deemed suitable for residency in an open centre. It has a mix of single and shared rooms. All rooms are equipped with televisions.


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  • #37
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056448139


  • #38
    SerialComplaint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    fasttalkerchat wrote: »
    I think that if the government/Nama hadn't tried to go behind his back and went to such underhand tricks they would have got a lot of the money very quickly.
    Nonsense - Sean would have even more time to hide the goodies, and the Govt would have got even less. But your naivety is quite touching - sweet!


  • #39
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    SerialComplaint wrote: »
    Nonsense - Sean would have even more time to hide the goodies, and the Govt would have got even less. But your naivety is quite touching - sweet!

    Perhaps but I think both sides were very much in the wrong here! Its like the bank taking your house because you're a few weeks late on the mortgage. Even if you never intended on paying there is still a procedure to follow.


  • #40
    SerialComplaint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    fasttalkerchat wrote: »
    Perhaps but I think both sides were very much in the wrong here! Its like the bank taking your house because you're a few weeks late on the mortgage. Even if you never intended on paying there is still a procedure to follow.

    NAMA followed every legal procedure in the book


  • #41
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    SerialComplaint wrote: »
    NAMA followed every legal procedure in the book

    I believe that calling Sean Quinn to a meeting in Dublin so that he was away from his offices for Nama to take control was pretty underhand! This happened at a time when Sean Quinn had ticked all the boxes and has not resisted repayment in anyway.


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  • #42
    hardCopy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    johnr1 wrote: »
    It's ironic that if all the people who want to burn Quinn made the laws of other countries, we'd never have had Ford, Macy's, Sony, Wollworths, Honda or KFC.

    In some countries, failure is a badge of honour and they jail the likes of Madoff for natural life.
    Here we let Seanie Fitz off and punish business people who fail.

    Quinn made bad business decisions, he deserves to be left with nothing, but put the blame for us carrying his losses where it belongs, - with a bank who were out of control, and a government who guaranteed all the losses.

    This is about contempt of court. He deliberately disobeyed a court order. This case has really nothing to do with bankruptcy.


  • #43
    desertcircus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    What on earth us the atory with the Quinn apologists that keep popping up when he gets in the news? He did illegal things for selfish reasons and saddled everyone else with a nine-figure bill, and then he illegally transferred assets out of the reach of the creditors.

    And what on earth does a meeting in Dublin have to do with anything? Nama were legally entitled to do what they did no matter where Quinn was. It's not as if he'd have been at the head of three hundred bloody Spartans fighting Nama off except for this meeting.


  • #44
    Wanderer2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    will anything actually happen?

    Nope. Its Ireland. In Ireland, we dont jail our corrupt businessmen, bankers or politicians, we just give them a little talking to and then its back to business the next day, or, to keep the lawyers in the money, we set up a twenty year tribunal to investigate and then release a whitewash whilst the crooks in question are living it up off their golden handshake cash. Im ashamed to be Irish at times when I see how the Government act and what they allow happen.

    Only in Ireland could Mick Wallace admit on live tv he broke the law, and then read a bleeding heart 10minute statement and go back to work no questions asked. Also, all this business with Quinn is deflecting from the 2 other scumbags Sean Fitzpatrick and Fingers Fingleton, no sign of them getting hauled away from their decades of corruption, its a sickener :rolleyes:


  • #45
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    desertcircus wrote: »
    What on earth us the atory with the Quinn apologists that keep popping up when he gets in the news? He did illegal things for selfish reasons and saddled everyone else with a nine-figure bill, and then he illegally transferred assets out of the reach of the creditors.

    And what on earth does a meeting in Dublin have to do with anything? Nama were legally entitled to do what they did no matter where Quinn was. It's not as if he'd have been at the head of three hundred bloody Spartans fighting Nama off except for this meeting.

    My issue is that both sides were in the wrong but before Sean Quinn could be given a chance to pay up he was sneekily stripped of his business. What he did afterwards was wrong too an I have no problem if he is sentenced to jail time for that. Its a shame that the bankers and politicians will never get the same.


  • #46
    desertcircus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    He wasn't sneakily stripped of his business, it was seized because he owed a gargantuan sum of money and there was zero realistic prospect of repayment.


  • #47
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    fasttalkerchat wrote: »
    I believe that calling Sean Quinn to a meeting in Dublin so that he was away from his offices for Nama to take control was pretty underhand! This happened at a time when Sean Quinn had ticked all the boxes and has not resisted repayment in anyway.

    You don't really believe that it'd have made even a small bit of difference whether or not he was there do you? You can be guaranteed that NAMA would have showed up with all the relevant paperwork with all the I's dotted and all the T's crossed.

    If anything I'd wish that NAMA was a little bit more underhanded in their dealings with these characters. Unfortunately they have to play by the rules while the likes of Quinn obviously have no problems bending, breaking or sidestepping the rules.


  • #48
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,080 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    podgemonster wrote: »
    He'll get a very short term (weeks rather than months) if at all

    He hasn't been convicted of a crime and so he hasn't been sentenced. The good thing is he has been found in contempt of court. Which means he will be in prison until he is no longer in contempt of court. If he doesn't cooperate he will stay in jail. Until he dies.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #49
    The Radiator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭The Radiator


    Not surprised












    What's contempt?


  • #50
    Fulton Crown
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    Nope. Its Ireland. In Ireland, we dont jail our corrupt businessmen, bankers or politicians, we just give them a little talking to and then its back to business the next day, or, to keep the lawyers in the money, we set up a twenty year tribunal to investigate and then release a whitewash whilst the crooks in question are living it up off their golden handshake cash. Im ashamed to be Irish at times when I see how the Government act and what they allow happen.

    Only in Ireland could Mick Wallace admit on live tv he broke the law, and then read a bleeding heart 10minute statement and go back to work no questions asked. Also, all this business with Quinn is deflecting from the 2 other scumbags Sean Fitzpatrick and Fingers Fingleton, no sign of them getting hauled away from their decades of corruption, its a sickener :rolleyes:
    Spot on here poster...these things do take a lot of time and the financial forensics are labour and time intensive.

    You can't risk going to court and having the case thrown out on a technicality.

    Unlike the previous shower of crooks and gombeen men the present Govt.at least show some signs of wanting to give these gentlemen their just deserts.

    They went after the Drummer Boy anyways and did a bit of damage.

    These fookoos have necks like the proverbial jockeys tackle and the State need to take off the kid gloves and go after them...especially Fingers who is reportedly a right nasty peice of work.

    And the neck of Seanie staying in that 5 star in Poland while the poor unfortunates who have to pay for his actions cannot afford to feed their kids.

    These guys should get some chokey time ...and quick..


  • #51
    Sappa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    unkel wrote: »
    podgemonster wrote: »
    He'll get a very short term (weeks rather than months) if at all

    He hasn't been convicted of a crime and so he hasn't been sentenced. The good thing is he has been found in contempt of court. Which means he will be in prison until he is no longer in contempt of court. If he doesn't cooperate he will stay in jail. Until he dies.
    We can only hope


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  • #52
    EricPraline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭EricPraline


    Looks like he's got away with it. But then after all, it's only €500m. And I'm sure he's sorry and he'll give it back :mad:
    Ireland's former richest man was spared a jail sentence on Friday for contempt of court, meaning no major figure has to date been jailed over the collapse of Ireland's economy despite billions of euros in losses.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/29/us-ireland-quinn-idUSBRE85S0SH20120629


  • #53
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    EricPraline wrote: »
    Looks like he's got away with it. But then after all, it's only €500m. And I'm sure he's sorry and he'll give it back :mad:



    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/29/us-ireland-quinn-idUSBRE85S0SH20120629

    There will be household charge protesters in jail before any of these slimeballs get put away.
    Balls of a setup.


  • #54
    ClutchIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭ClutchIt


    alan4cult wrote: »
    Only in ireland, can you go from:

    This: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/the-rich-list-top-100-1332275.html

    to

    This: http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0626/high-court-judgement-in-quinn-case-due-today.html

    Only in Ireland? What are you on about?


  • #55
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    The Garlic Man gets banged up for 1 million.
    Quinn walks for 500 million.

    You, me and everyone else who pays tax gets screwed over on both.


  • #56
    rubberdiddies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭rubberdiddies


    previous poster hit the nail on the head.
    there will eventually be household charge protestors held in contempt of court and who will face jail over a measly €200.

    how this country actually functions is beyond me.


  • #57
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    rubberdiddies wrote: »
    how this country actually functions is beyond me.

    Take your hand and lead you
    Up a garden path
    Let me stand aside here
    And watch you pass

    Striking up a soldier's song
    I know that tune
    It begs too many questions
    And answers too

    Banana Republic
    Septic Isle
    Suffer in the screaming sea
    Sounds like dying

    Everywhere I go, yeah
    Everywhere I see
    The black and blue uniforms
    Police and priests


  • #58
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    i don't understand it, how the **** these 3 didn't get jail time. i hate this country


  • #59
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    VEN wrote: »
    i don't understand it, how the **** these 3 didn't get jail time. i hate this country

    Its called "knowing who else is involved" and using that info to keep your ass out of jail I suspect!

    I suspect also this is why a Mr Ahern is still walking free. He, many others and the likes of Quinn know TOO much!
    The last thing the big boys want, is to force the likes of the few that is hauled before a court, to really start opening their mouths in a deal to stay out of prison.


  • #60
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    VEN wrote: »
    i don't understand it, how the **** these 3 didn't get jail time. i hate this country

    Why are you surprised ?
    None of them go to jail.
    Ask Mick Wallace.


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  • #61
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Biggins wrote: »
    ...a deal to stay out of prison.

    That looks like exactly what has happened tbh. They are going to need his assistance to recover the assets. So it's either get him to work with them with the threat of prison and get back some of the money..

    ...or sling him in prison and risk the chance that he decides not to cooperate whatsoever. :mad:

    It's a rubbish situation and one that should never have been allowed happen in the first place, but would you risk a couple of hundred million, in return for a week in prison. I'd rather get the assets back asap, and send him to prison properly at a later date.


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