Largest on-land seizure of drugs in the history of the state.

Yamanoto · 26-06-2012 06:07PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Still, it's nothing to be sniffed at and no doubt they'll be having a party in Garda HQ with it over the find.

Your average guard favours TK Lemonade over Coke, maybe with a quality barnbrack to ease the comedown.

later12 · 26-06-2012 06:10PM

Boombastic wrote: »

But my friend told me it's true;)

Don't mind her, she gets a rake of free prams from the Government.

Boombastic · 26-06-2012 06:13PM

later12 wrote: »

Don't mind her, she gets a rake of free prams from the Government.

and leaves them at bus stops :eek:

I'd say the Gardai are flying high on their success

Napper Hawkins · 26-06-2012 06:15PM

In other news about this wonderful mess of a country of ours..

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/man-jailed-for-selling-cannabis-to-make-a-few-quid-3151363.html

Four poxy years.

Rapists and murderers have gotten less ffs.

Sappa · 26-06-2012 06:15PM

later12 wrote: »

Sappa wrote: »

It's fairly common knowledge the Nigerian gangs control a massive amount of the cocaine coming into the country,but it's a huge success for the Gardai.

The problem with common knowledge is that it's commonly wrong.

When someone starts a post with "it's fairly common knowledge that...", I should think alarm bells ought to start going off in people's heads.

Let me clarify it for you then,my bro in law is in the SDU and we sometimes meet for family functions and we converse to which he has told me that a massive amount of the cocaine distribution and importation is by Nigerian gangs based here.

Boombastic · 26-06-2012 06:17PM

Sappa wrote: »

Let me clarify it for you then,my bro in law is in the SDU and we sometimes meet for family functions and we converse to which he has told me that a massive amount of the cocaine distribution and importation is by Nigerian gangs based here.

I'd say they're great parties;);) Does he bring gifts?;);)

Logical Fallacy · 26-06-2012 06:17PM

Burt Lancaster wrote: »

Drugs are a scourge, Gardai should be given more resources to tackle the gangsters.

Absolutely, I mean, all the money we have thrown at it so far has almost solved the problem. A bit more should just eradicate it completely.

Or not.

later12 · 26-06-2012 06:18PM

Sappa wrote: »

Let me clarify it for you then,my bro in law is in the SDU and we sometimes meet for family functions and we converse to which he has told me that a massive amount of the cocaine distribution and importation is by Nigerian gangs based here.

I really don't know that we have any way of verifying that this is the case.

The Irishman in this case had six times as much cocaine as the Nigerian. Yet the Nigerian individual seems to be attracting a disproportionate amount of attention. The latter can be deported, what are we going to do about the one who has to be allowed stay here for life?

I know, lets keep him and his buddies in jobs by maintaining the silly pretense that the war on drugs is winnable!

BOHtox · 26-06-2012 06:19PM

A waste of Garda resources.
Legalised it all! tax it all! create employment from it all! Let people choose what they do with their own bodies!

Boombastic · 26-06-2012 06:20PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Absolutely, I mean, all the money we have thrown at it so far has almost solved the problem. A bit more should just eradicate it completely.

Or not.

I've just heard that was the last of it. Disband the DS, we've won!!

Sappa · 26-06-2012 06:24PM

later12 wrote: »

Sappa wrote: »

Let me clarify it for you then,my bro in law is in the SDU and we sometimes meet for family functions and we converse to which he has told me that a massive amount of the cocaine distribution and importation is by Nigerian gangs based here.

I really don't know that we have any way of verifying that this is the case.

The Irishman in this case had six times as much cocaine as the Nigerian. Yet the Nigerian individual seems to be attracting a disproportionate amount of attention. The latter can be deported, what are we going to do about the one who has to be allowed stay here for life?

I know, lets keep him and his buddies in jobs by maintaining the silly pretense that the war on drugs is winnable!

One thing we can verify is that you haven't a clue what's really going on in this country at a street level and I am sure many people here can verify that this is the case.
If it was French people bringing in the majority of the cocaine we would say it as so but it's not it's on fact the Nigerians and a huge way they are doing it is by using mules to bring it in as pellets in their stomachs and through larger shipments with cooperation from the Irish gangsters.

BOHtox · 26-06-2012 06:25PM

MaxSteele wrote: »

Hooray for the pointless war on drugs and prohibition !!

Same identical story time and time again. "Gardai have uncovered x million kilos of y drug and have taken the suspects to Clondalkin Garda station". Yet I've still to ever hear about junkies or recreational users not getting their fix due to the bust.

This is barely a temporary dent in supply and demand, never mind the other countless shipments probably coming in right now or have already arrived undetected here as we type. :rolleyes:

I can't wait for some high ranking official on the 6 One, due now any minute, to bull**** the ears off the general public over how it's a huge blow to drugs trade ... how about not really though ?

Legislate and regulate already ffs.

hear fúcking hear!
Top, top post!

Burt Lancaster · 26-06-2012 06:28PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Absolutely, I mean, all the money we have thrown at it so far has almost solved the problem. A bit more should just eradicate it completely.

Or not.

So exactly how much have we spent on it so far this year ?
How much does the results of gangland crime cost the country ?
There are very few dedicated Gardai resources pitched against gangland criminals.

Skid · 26-06-2012 06:29PM

How come the Gardaí always know so much about the Street Value of Drugs?

It makes you wonder ...

Cork boy 55 · 26-06-2012 06:30PM

Sappa wrote: »

It's fairly common knowledge the Nigerian gangs control a massive amount of the cocaine coming into the country,but it's a huge success for the Gardai.

Just last month

Idah, a Nigerian with addresses at Lipton Court, Dublin city centre and Gerard House, Brown Street, London had pleaded not (NOT) guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to two charges of soliciting another person to unlawfully import cocaine on dates between September 14 and 19, 2010.
Handing down sentence today Judge Desmond Hogan said Idah was recruiting people to bring drugs to this country and that this he was a far more serious criminal than an “ordinary drug mule”.
Judge Hogan said: “He is higher up the chain of command than a simple courier. He was set up in the business of canvassing drug couriers or mules.”

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/trafficker-jailed-for-13-year-after-soliciting-garda-to-act-as-drug-mule-3112058.html

RMD · 26-06-2012 06:39PM

Skid wrote: »

How come the Gardaí always know so much about the Street Value of Drugs?

It makes you wonder ...

It's a basic part of intelligence gathering to determine prices. Reflects the availability and quality of the drugs being sold. Doesn't make you wonder, it's the basics of any police force.

26-06-2012 06:41PM

Tym wrote: »

Bril news. I wonder will anybody say it was a decoy?:rolleyes:

Also, I sense the pro-leagalizing drug people will be paying a visit soon.

It's everyone's favourite one-topic poster gaffer arriving again to piss off drug prohibitionists!

All I'll say is imagine the tax take for VAT plus a little extra if this was being sold legally. Not to mention jobs created, less spent on the dole and however much this investigation actually cost.

SEPT 23 1989 · 26-06-2012 06:52PM

When is the Garda auction on?

christmas2012 · 26-06-2012 06:53PM

I think take the holland approach to it,decriminilize it but dont legalise it fully,there for if needed you can do drug busts if there is an undercurrent of anything untoward going on..

RMD · 26-06-2012 07:08PM

christmas2012 wrote: »

I think take the holland approach to it,decriminilize it but dont legalise it fully,there for if needed you can do drug busts if there is an undercurrent of anything untoward going on..

The Portuguese approach was to decriminalize use but to make distribution still a criminal offence. Had very positive effects if I remember right.

Chuck Stone · 26-06-2012 07:11PM

Shakima Greggs: You rogue mother****ers kill me. Fighting the war on drugs, one brutality case at a time.

Det. Ellis Carver: You can't even call this **** a war.

Det. Thomas Hauk: Why not?

Det. Ellis Carver: Wars end.

The Wire.

Odysseus · 26-06-2012 08:01PM

RMD wrote: »

It's a basic part of intelligence gathering to determine prices. Reflects the availability and quality of the drugs being sold. Doesn't make you wonder, it's the basics of any police force.

Well the need to gather intelligence gathering, generally the police state the amount that have take off my clients is twice the price the client paid. These are small time users in most cases so the are not getting significant discounts.

CreepingDeath · 26-06-2012 08:19PM

BOHtox wrote: »

A waste of Garda resources.
Legalised it all! tax it all! create employment from it all! Let people choose what they do with their own bodies!

Do you think that current drug addicts are financially independent adults contributing to society who can be trusted to use drugs responsibly ?

No, I think a lenient liberal society has destroyed us all.
When a simple prison sentence doesn't deter someone from committing crime, then the application of more force is required to create fear and a deterrent.

How much crime is directly related to drugs?
I haven't a clue, but I'll hazard a guess at at least 50%.
That's for murders in drug feuds and muggings & burglaries from addicts.
I'd be for very harsh sentences for drug dealers, starting at hard labour camps and not excluding the death sentence.

Society has to protect itself, and if you compare where we are today with the pre-drug society bliss where people could leave their homes unlocked all day, we're really are in hell at the moment afraid to walk the streets at night and have to barricade ourselves into our homes.

Logical Fallacy · 26-06-2012 08:22PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Do you think that current drug addicts are financially independent adults contributing to society who can be trusted to use drugs responsibly ?

No, I think a lenient liberal society has destroyed us all.
When a simple prison sentence doesn't deter someone from committing crime, then the application of more force is required to create fear and a deterrent.

How much crime is directly related to drugs?
I haven't a clue, but I'll hazard a guess at at least 50%.
That's for murders in drug feuds and muggings & burglaries from addicts.
I'd be for very harsh sentences for drug dealers, starting at hard labour camps and not excluding the death sentence.

Society has to protect itself, and if you compare where we are today with the pre-drug society bliss where people could leave their homes unlocked all day, we're really are in hell at the moment afraid to walk the streets at night and have to barricade ourselves into our homes.

When was this pre-drug society bliss?

I'd also seriously doubt that 50% of all crime is related to drugs...you might be getting close to that if you lump both drugs and alchohol together but even then I'd say it's a bit high.

christmas2012 · 26-06-2012 08:23PM

Drugs is more of a widespread problem now,it used to be just confined to inner city areas,but its everywhere,you cannot go anywhere without being hassled or nearly robbed, i know a neighbour of mine who had his car hijacked by a junkie and he ordered him to drive to a pub known as brannigans in limerick to meet some buds and do a favour,then he ordered him to drive to an atm at knifepoint..

Its a real problem and the fact there arent enough gards to man this problem has meant it has spiralled out of control to this point..

fasttalkerchat · 26-06-2012 08:23PM

Odysseus wrote: »

Well the need to gather intelligence gathering, generally the police state the amount that have take off my clients is twice the price the client paid. These are small time users in most cases so the are not getting significant discounts.

I always wondered about that. Could I get charges reduced if I had a receipt saying I paid £20 and not the £1000 for cocaine?

christmas2012 · 26-06-2012 08:25PM

why would anybody pay 1000 for a small score of cocaine??

26-06-2012 08:25PM

Yeah big deal, since when was 350kg 200million? I seem to remember a few years ago one kilo being worth 70k. That's some jump for what would have then been 24.5m.

But it does give people who'll believe anything loads to jump around about. Even if you were to break it down to 1600 an ounce, it's still nowhere near 200million. Now run along sheep.

Chuck Stone · 26-06-2012 08:30PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Do you think that current drug addicts are financially independent adults contributing to society who can be trusted to use drugs responsibly ?

No, I think a lenient liberal society has destroyed us all.
When a simple prison sentence doesn't deter someone from committing crime, then the application of more force is required to create fear and a deterrent.

How much crime is directly related to drugs?
I haven't a clue, but I'll hazard a guess at at least 50%.
That's for murders in drug feuds and muggings & burglaries from addicts.
I'd be for very harsh sentences for drug dealers, starting at hard labour camps and not excluding the death sentence.

Society has to protect itself, and if you compare where we are today with the pre-drug society bliss where people could leave their homes unlocked all day, we're really are in hell at the moment afraid to walk the streets at night and have to barricade ourselves into our homes.

I think this might just be the biggest load of bollocks I've ever read on the issue of drug prohibition.

That's quite an achievement considering the idiotic, ill-informed views people tend to come out with on the issue.

Burt Lancaster · 26-06-2012 08:38PM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I think this might just be the biggest load of bollocks I've ever read on the issue of drug prohibition.

That's quite an achievement considering the idiotic, ill-informed views people tend to come out with on the issue.

Perhaps we might believe you if you were able to refute the points rather than hysterically attacking the poster.

Largest on-land seizure of drugs in the history of the state.

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