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Russian mom throws 2 sons off 15th floor balcony!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    Poor children - they were just boys being boys - loud, playful, messing around..

    That woman should rot in jail - what a evil, cold hearted thing to even consider!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    This site is weird, if this happened in somewhere like Sommerset in England no 'jokes' would be tolerated. This is actually horrific, one of the worst incidents I've heard of. As someone pointed out wasn't a spur of the moment thing, she calmly brought them up to a higher floor.

    Poor kids. R.I.P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    That video is so disturbing and sad :( First of all seeing the poor kids just playing around like normal kids, oblivious to what their own mother is about to do. And then seeing her walking out the door smiling. It's very very chilling.

    I just can't help imagining how she did it, did she throw one of them first while the other was watching, did they put up a fight, etc. Makes me feel sick, just so so sad :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    That's horrible, those poor little men :( RIP.

    Hope the woman gets the help she so clearly needs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    That's horrible, those poor little men :( RIP.

    Hope the woman gets the help she so clearly needs.

    If she does, she will then have to deal with the fact that she murdered her two children. I doubt she will ever function normally again.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Tragic... Poor innocent children..

    RIP :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Absolutely abhorrent.

    I don't think anyone would stop to consider mental health if it were the boys' father that did this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    That's horrible, those poor little men :( RIP.

    Hope the woman gets the help she so clearly needs.

    I hope she gets thrown off a building to be honest.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,498 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Absolutely abhorrent.

    I don't think anyone would stop to consider mental health if it were the boys' father that did this.

    ANYONE who would do this clearly has mental health problems.
    Speaking of the father though, where was he in all this? Was she minding them alone?
    Poor kids. RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    whiplashed wrote: »
    We should execute the insane?

    Because when somebody does something that's completely evil they HAVE to be insane. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 824 ✭✭✭rustynutz


    Their has to be a line drawn between someone claiming to be insane and someone who is just f#cking evil. Taking your two innocent kids up to the 15th floor of a building and throwing them off and smiling 5 minutes afterwards is evil, she deserves to be thrown off the building herself.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Using an exceptional case like this to justify the death penalty is pointless.

    Those poor children are dead but we wont bring them back or save any more innocents by allowing the state to murder in the name of justice!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I don't really care if she's mentally ill, I hope the cops kicked the head off her!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    spurious wrote: »
    Absolutely abhorrent.

    I don't think anyone would stop to consider mental health if it were the boys' father that did this.

    ANYONE who would do this clearly has mental health problems.
    Speaking of the father though, where was he in all this? Was she minding them alone?
    Poor kids. RIP.

    I didn't say otherwise. I said people wouldn't care.

    Personally I think as humans we are far to unwilling to accept that as humans, some walking amongst us are capable of such atrocity. We always look for a reason, namely, insanity.

    Maybe she's insane but I just wouldn't COMPLETLY discount the possibility that conversely, maybe, she's not.


  • Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is evil in this world and mental health sometimes means nothing, look at the bolger killers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    I hope she gets thrown off a building to be honest.

    Well I don't support capitol punishment, and I'm certainly not suggesting she shouldn't be punished. I don't think she should ever be let out into society again either, but people don't go from "normal" to "throw my kids off a building" overnight. She's clearly a very very ill woman, IMHO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    In my opinion, this woman is pure evil.
    They can put all the insanity names on her as they like but, to me she's a psychopath, pure pure evil.
    And I do agree that this woman should get chair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    This site is weird, if this happened in somewhere like Sommerset in England no 'jokes' would be tolerated.

    Poor kids. R.I.P

    *removes straw from mouth* Oi reckon you're not far wrong there young master


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭Nulty


    seamus wrote: »
    No, the youtube video doesn't show her doing it. All you see the edge of the older kid's shoe (literally the edge of his shoe) when he hits the ground, that's all that was on the footage.

    It really just shows her coming back into the apartment block with the two kids, then much later on she's walking out of the apartment block with a smile on her face and a guy stops her from leaving before calling the cops.

    She's obviously seriously deranged. Maybe her intention was to kill herself but couldn't muster up the courage to jump off the balcony.

    She definitely snapped. Can't really judge her for that, if that is the case. People are fragile, and she obviously blew a gasket in her head. Or she's an evil bitch....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    I'm not going to watch the video and frankly don't know why anyone would want to post something like that.

    I'll never understand the mentality of a parent who kills their child....to me such a person is nothing more or less than evil.

    It's interesting how people are trying to justify what this woman did by saying she was frail/burnt out/had PND. There are also one or two posting that seem to insinuate the Father had some role.

    If it was the Father who did it there is not question he's be vilified as a monster/evil etc. So why not the Mother? Or is it somehow less of crime when it's the Mother?

    To my mind she is evil and selfish and deserves to be locked up.


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  • Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm not going to watch the video and frankly don't know why anyone would want to post something like that.

    .
    If you seen her walking out at the end in cuffs, it would really re-enforce your point about EVIL, she looks it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Bambii_


    Can't bear to watch that video.. That monster doesn't deserve to be called a mother, evil cow. Poor kids.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    lock her up throw away the key..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    What I suspect is that it's insanity that causes evil. There has to have been something up with the James Bulger killers mentally, in particular the ring-leader. I suspect too that those who dismiss the mental illness angle want the person to be sane so they don't get "soft" treatment. This woman is hardly sane.
    I don't think anyone would stop to consider mental health if it were the boys' father that did this.
    Of course people would. That English guy who did a similar thing on holidays in Crete a few years ago, his mental state was considered the whole time afterwards. Speak for yourself.


  • Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Onixx wrote: »
    What I suspect is that it's insanity that causes evil. There has to have been something up with the James Bulger killers mentally, in particular the ringleader. I suspect too that those who dismiss the mental illness angle want the person to be sane so they don't get "soft" treatment. This woman is hardly sane.

    .

    By your guestimation.........., people use the insanity thing to explain something they can't comprehend.
    Crimes of passion, losing the plot etc....it's all too easy to claim insanity.
    Like Anders Brevik, we all know he's not insane, even he claims all the time he's not insane, yet the media all they do is say he's insane.
    It makes us all feel easier about ourselves when we say Insane, like you can't catch it.
    Evil, pure and simple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    "We all" know Breivik is not insane? :confused:

    Oh I of course don't know for sure, but I can't fathom someone doing something that incredible and lacking in rationality and not having something wrong in their head. To me, it defies logic. I know there are cruel, vile people who aren't insane and who carry out sustained campaigns against people, but to just randomly decide to kill one's children in the heat of the moment... can't be coming from a sane place.


  • Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Onixx wrote: »
    "We all" know Breivik is not insane? :confused:
    Did you read his manifesto?
    I'm guessing not.
    No one SANE "LOL" would condone his actions, but there was a REASON behind it.
    but to just randomly decide to kill one's children in the heat of the moment... can't be coming from a sane place.
    People do stupid, stupid things in the heat of the moment.
    She may feel guilt down the line, but even if she doesn't she isn't automatically insane because she does something that others can't understand.
    Some people can control their emotions, some can't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭bigneacy


    What a horrible end to such young promising lives, absolutely wasteful.

    It's so easy to just revert back to our primary school selves here and see the world as black and white, good or evil. Unfortunately there are shades of grey and degrees of nastiness. This is one of the worst things a person could do - to take their position of trust as a parent as these boy's own mother - premeditating to take them to a higher floor in order to ensure that they died - that's certainly one of the worst things a person could do to another.

    The smile at the end says it all - the woman is very obviously mentally disturbed. She didn't try to run or cover it up - she was not functioning as a normal person would. The fact that she is a woman or a mother does not draw sympathy or understanding from me - others seem to see it as an excuse but to simply label her as 'evil' is simplistic and lacks understanding. She should never be allowed walk among the rest of us again - she has nothing to offer us but she doesn't deserve to die either - she needs treatment and care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    This site is weird, if this happened in somewhere like Sommerset in England no 'jokes' would be tolerated. This is actually horrific, one of the worst incidents I've heard of. As someone pointed out wasn't a spur of the moment thing, she calmly brought them up to a higher floor.

    Poor kids. R.I.P

    Not to take away from the tragedy of the situation but I have to say with all the stuff in the news these days I can't say this is one of the worst I've heard of when we live in the world of school massacre's and Josef Fritzl. Saying that ranking atrocities is more than a little morbid.

    Absolutely abhorrent.

    I don't think anyone would stop to consider mental health if it were the boys' father that did this.

    I'd say they would yeah.
    RVP 11 wrote: »
    If you seen her walking out at the end in cuffs, it would really re-enforce your point about EVIL, she looks it.

    To my eyes she looks vacant.

    RIP to the kids, horrible tragedy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Bambii_ wrote: »
    Can't bear to watch that video.. That monster doesn't deserve to be called a mother, evil cow. Poor kids.

    You..GTFO

    Brand protection :mad:


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