Bullying happens at all ages.

Gummy Panda · 23-06-2012 08:01PM

That video has pissed me off to no end :mad:

Cûnts need a smack of a belt

Heckler · 23-06-2012 10:00PM

My mum is that age and if i ever heard of her getting that kind of abuse i wouldn't care about the age of the bullies, I'd slap the everloving **** out of them and gladly do the time.

phasers · 23-06-2012 10:10PM

is the woman definitely getting the money? That would be a sweet little scam for whoever started the fund.

The kids are little fcukers and hopefully they've learned the golden rule of the internet now: don't mess with cats or old people.

Red Hand · 23-06-2012 10:13PM

Little sh*ts. I shouldn't have watched the video-I'm angry now.:mad:

Pantsface · 23-06-2012 10:23PM

Little scumbag in the video :mad: evil little ****

Pantsface · 23-06-2012 10:26PM

what lovely kids. what hope do we have looking at this crap? am sure there will be plenty defending them. in my eyes they are just bad, scum.

shampoosuicide · 23-06-2012 10:50PM

massive lol at the 'parents are at fault' brigade. every time without fail.

you need to have a seriously naive viewpoint on human behaviour to automatically assume - 100% of the time - that a kid's upbringing is the reason they act like a wanker.

the parents you're accusing could be perfectly decent people, in fact they more than likely are. AH is like the Daily Mail comments section sometimes.

Fight_Night · 23-06-2012 11:03PM

shampoosuicide wrote: »

massive lol at the 'parents are at fault' brigade. every time without fail.

you need to have a seriously naive viewpoint on human behaviour to automatically assume - 100% of the time - that a kid's upbringing is the reason they act like a wanker.

the parents you're accusing could be perfectly decent people, in fact they more than likely are. AH is like the Daily Mail comments section sometimes.

Agree with you for the most part, obviously the parents can have a certain amount of influence should they choose to but yeah ultimately their peers will have a greater influence.

Killer Wench · 23-06-2012 11:07PM

shampoosuicide wrote: »

massive lol at the 'parents are at fault' brigade. every time without fail.

you need to have a seriously naive viewpoint on human behaviour to automatically assume - 100% of the time - that a kid's upbringing is the reason they act like a wanker.

the parents you're accusing could be perfectly decent people, in fact they more than likely are. AH is like the Daily Mail comments section sometimes.

I do blame the parents to a degree, maybe not for the bullying itself because all kids act differently when away from their parents, but I do blame them for allowing 12/13 year olds access to Youtube and Facebook. Unless its changed, you had to be older than 13 to join Facebook, and these kids videotaped this with the intention of posting it to their facebook pages just to get likes from others. That's where I blame the parents.

dalta5billion · 23-06-2012 11:24PM

The "parents are to blame" thing is about 50/50 in my opinion.

I remember a kid I never liked, saw the attitude of his father, it clicked into place, why he acted the way he did.

Then again, we all know that one kid who is simply angelic around their parents and is simultaneously a lovely little psychopath in school around their friends.

Moral of the story, kids are great at leading double lives.

christmas2012 · 23-06-2012 11:25PM

theres no respect for each other in society ,were all very uncaring and non chalant , values are placed in the wrong thing,having the latest nikeys or iphone...

ordinary_girl · 24-06-2012 12:29AM

In a video that Karen Klein was being interviewed in about this she said that they had passed remarks about her before but had never been this vicious before this incident, clearly the fuckers were just playing up for the camera trying to look deadly. I must admit that I love the fact that they uploaded the video hoping that it'd make them look cool but it backfired spectacularly. The woman deserves every cent of that money, I was close to tears the first time I saw that video. There's no way that didn't damage her in some way.

B.A._Baracus · 24-06-2012 01:00AM

One would like to think that these are just a bunch on teenage punks. Truth is, are they really different from most people?

People are animals.

leggo · 24-06-2012 01:12AM

The video was hard to watch and upset me a bit when I saw it earlier.

But still, the reactions here and the even more extreme ones sending death threats, show that we as society still don't understand how to handle bullying.

These are middle school kids, so anywhere between the age of 11-15. They have no idea of the consequences of what they're saying, no concept of the grand scheme of life and how what they are saying/doing to this woman will continue to affect her once she gets off that bus. That's not to excuse their behaviour, but to illustrate what is missing in their education and development that a child to be so cold and uneducated to do this.

Death threats and wishing violence upon them won't help the problem. Internet justice is an absolutely ridiculous concept that almost always ends up being hypocritical. What you'll get is they'll go one way or the other: they could commit suicide based on the backlash of this video or harden up and go the other way completely.

Either way, nobody wins. The woman will feel better for having her half million dollars, no doubt, but you can't just throw money at someone and hope emotional scars heal (though it is a lovely gesture, all the same). The kids won't learn and be rehabilitated back into society as a result. And the cycle just continues somewhere else because people think and react with their emotions, first and foremost, when they see videos like this. And that blocks any real progress from being made.

Giselle · 24-06-2012 01:33AM

leggo wrote: »

Death threats and wishing violence upon them won't help the problem. Internet justice is an absolutely ridiculous concept that almost always ends up being hypocritical. What you'll get is they'll go one way or the other: they could commit suicide based on the backlash of this video or harden up and go the other way completely.

Either way, nobody wins. The woman will feel better for having her half million dollars, no doubt, but you can't just throw money at someone and hope emotional scars heal (though it is a lovely gesture, all the same). The kids won't learn and be rehabilitated back into society as a result.

I completely agree.
Two wrongs do not equal one learning experience. Proper intervention and education is a harder, but more likely sucessful tactic.

Its not going to stop people advocating knocking those kids six ways til Sunday though.

Biggins · 24-06-2012 07:52PM

Bullied Bus Monitor Karen Klein Sees the Best and Worst of Humanity in 24 Hours

A shocking video of middle schoolers verbally abusing a poorly-paid, hearing-impaired grandmother of eight hired to keep them safe on the school bus went viral on Wednesday. Over 29,000 online strangers rallied to Karen's side, donating $630,000, enabling her to retire if she wants to.

Bullied bus monitor Karen Klein has been blown away with the outpouring of support from sympathizers around the world, and RadarOnline.com can exclusively reveal how the 68-year-old grandmother plans to spend the 430,656.35€ she has so far received in donations from well wishers.

"She is definitely surprised and overwhelmed and certainly thankful for everyone's support, and it is nice knowing she is not alone," Klein's daughter, Amanda Romig, tells RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview on Friday.

"We never thought it was going to be that much, she didn't think that much – then wow!" says Romig, who explained that she didn't think her widowed mom was going to return to her job after the verbal torture by the seventh graders from the Athena Middle School.
"I don’t think she is going to go back, I think she is pretty much done."

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, the four boys in the Greece Central School District near Rochester, New York videoed their torment and then posted the shocking clip -- which had more than 1.2 million YouTube hits in less than two days -- showing a sobbing Klein being bombarded with insults about her weight, graphic sexual comments, threats, called poor, and then physically assaulted with a book.

The shocking video sparked the launch of a fundraising website on IndieGogo.com, which aimed to raise 3,987.56€ so she could go on a much-deserved vacation, but it was has already raked in 100 times that amount.

Along with overcoming her emotional distress, what is forefront on Karen's mind is what she is going to do with the half-a-million dollars.

"Right now, she has got to call her accountant and go from there, she’s talking about paying her bills and getting caught up and then whatever she feels she wants to do, she is going to do," Romig tells Radar.

"She has a lot of ideas including making a donation here and there. My nephew has autism and my niece has Down syndrome, and with those types of disabilities the kids are going to get picked on too, so she wants to help both causes," she explained.

As for the vacation the fundraising was originally launched for, Klein has already been bombarded with free trips!

"Anderson Cooper gave her 10 tickets to Disneyland, and Disney World is letting her take a cruise of her choice," says Amanda. "She’s going to Boston to be the honorary duck monitor next week.

"There are a few things in the works, the TODAY show wants her back - but she's not going to do a reality show yet!" she laughs.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/06/bullied-bus-monitor-karen-klein-reveals-how-she-will-spend-500000-donations

nlgbbbblth · 24-06-2012 07:59PM

policarp wrote: »

The parents are the ones at fault, IMO. . .

What a disgraceful post.

Do you not understand personal responsibility?

The children bullied the woman.

Therefore it's the children's fault.

:rolleyes:

sunflower27 · 24-06-2012 08:08PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

We all did bad things as kids. Granted this is pretty rotten, and probably a lost worse than any of us did as kids, but kids can naturally be extremely mean. I remember our entire class making a new student teacher cry, although I don't remember anyone going to this extreme, I don't recall any personal insults, just general messing! We all grow out of it. I imagine these kids would have been horrified even if this wasn't recorded and they though about it 10 years from now.

But yea, it was one of the more shocking videos I've seen on the internet, and that's saying something!

I don't recall any kids doing anything anywhere near as bad as that.

Maybe it is my age, but I never saw kids carry on like that when I was their age and I grew up in a rough, troubled area.

So many kids are spoilt brats these days and get away with bl**dy murder.
You can keep them. Not for me

Scruffles · 24-06-2012 11:39PM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Serious lack of empathy shown to that lady. At first I thought it was fake but judging by the cowering nature of those "bullying" they too are under the control of some perhaps controlling sociopathic personality. Well thats my take on it anyhow.

lacking empathy doesnt always equate to personality disorders,such as anti social PD [aka sociapaths,aka pyschopaths].
am severely autistic [with mixed functioning] and completely lack empathy but have got strong morals and know that bullying,abusing,hurting etc any inocent beings is completely wrong,will not allow people to hurt insects and they get fed up when am always jumping in the way of their swinging hand at flies.

am totaly glad anon,/b/ and whoeelse has got onto those kids-it really is about time people realised they cant go around doing and saying anything without consequences.

am also glad the woman got that fund-hope she can retire or changes her job to a school with kids that respect her more,shows how much maturity she has sitting there and taking it as if they were saying something normal.

however,surely she wont be using all that money-woudnt it make sense to open a charity/fund for bullied teens and kids in america to allow those who dont have the money to pay for therapy sessions,medications [caused by the bullying],a support/social group for bullied kids/ teens to meet up with each other and teach them stuff to give them confidence ,take bullied kids/teens on activities or camping trips to help them get away from their thoughts,self defence classes to help them stand up for themselves...things like that, they coud probably get part of it funded to.
just personaly think it doesnt seem very balanced that this ladies one experience- has earned her all that money when am always reading about so many long term brutaly bullied students in america sucessfuly atempting suicide or being left with permenant mental health issues if they survive suicide attempts-many of those who have been sucessful or have survived had videos of their bullying online;have wondered where on earth is the ganging together for them and raising money to pay for their after care or needs?

not to say her experience wasnt awful for her and is completely unaceptable, it just doesnt make sense how people can not see the imbalance in age and bullying.

and people who think it only really happens to kids or teens are simply not around it to see it,it happens to adults so often,more so those who are classed as vulnerable- this may be disabled people,pensioners,people with mental health problems, and depending on area even people with a conflicting religeon coud be classed as vulnerable to bullying from teens/kids but also adults.

apologies for waffling on here [have put code tags around it so it doesnt take a load of the table up] am twenty eight and still get bullied now due to being vulnerable through severe disability,am actualy a strong person and last year had put a bully in hospital from fighting back.
kids,teens and adults think theyre macho rolling off disablist abuse; even though am always with one or two support staff,they dont seem to realise woud knock their heads off if was aware of it happening at the time or wasnt being held back by staff.

a...very infamous sockpuppeting user here came very close to going through serious police action after support staff of mine found out had been badly bullied by him online for years after he first pretended to be a friend to get information for him to use as his own life experiences [was driven to suicide attempts amongst other bad stuff,had a very bad run in with police,trigger of severe major depressive disorder and violent extremely paranoid pyschosis],was told by a doctor woud have been sectioned that day if had not been living in secure residential care.

the reason was bullied by him was through such twisted toxic jealousy,but it does say a lot about a persons mental stability if they can be that jealous and resentful of someone who is severely disabled and has a lower level of quality of life.
he was jealous of the services/support that got and said did not deserve it,he woud take the piss out of the fact have grown up being physicaly abused by parents and have been sexualy abused in residential care- apparently none of that was abuse and its an insult to people like him who went through real abuse.

he used information from the blog of mine as a way to get attention on forums,and was treated like **** by him,called retarded,told being so low IQ shoud not be posting on threads that dont concern us,over time; pretty much made to feel like was not worth the air was breathing so it; along with finding out the first friend had ever had; was the person doing this bullying campaign; it triggered severe mental illness.
people dont realise cyber bullying does affect adults,and it isnt only weak people who are affected; was one of those strong people until all of this,now am so cynical and paranoid of people and what they say.

Killer Wench · 25-06-2012 06:28AM

$600K+ and it isn't taxable!!

http://news.yahoo.com/internets-favorite-bus-monitor-her-600k-tax-free-155246217.html

Of course, this means that congress will call a special session and there will probably be a new tax amendment so this type of thing doesn't happen again.

RumDrinker · 25-06-2012 07:00AM

Joey the lips wrote: »

Bull. You need to have gotten bullied to realise how severe it is. If the bullies are bullied its the perfect leson

100% agree ^^

Glimmerdog · 25-06-2012 10:15AM

That has had a serious effect on me. It's without the most emotional I've ever been watching a YouTube video. I'm genuinely in tears for this woman. Kids cn be the cruelest people in the world

shopaholic01 · 25-06-2012 10:22AM

Perhaps the greatest retribution is that this has the potential to haunt these kids for the rest of their lives - imagine them attending an interview in the future and suddenly the interviewer recognises the name etc.

I sure it will affect schools and colleges they attend.

Truley · 25-06-2012 10:36AM

This sort of thing happened all the time when I was in School. You had horrible bullying teachers that got away with murder in how they treated students. Then there were the well-meaning, naive teachers that were considered fair game by the students and got the receiving end. It's like a viscous cycle, and such a high pressure, negative environment because so many students and teachers resent being there.

The way I see it there are two types of people, leaders and followers. In situations like this the vast vast majority of people will turn a blind eye or go along with the crowd. More than we care to believe. That little sh*te to the right seems to be doing 90% of the goading. Whenever people watch thing like this they say they would have stayed out of it, or done something to stop it. But statistically the chances are high that you wouldn't.

This is why I don't believe in institutionalized education but that's another story...

St.Spodo · 25-06-2012 10:51AM

The kid in that video looked to be about 12-14 and yet, exhibited nothing in the way of moral fibre, never mind compassion or empathy. These sort of kids are too old to not take responsibility for their own actions. Punishment is in order.

leggo · 25-06-2012 11:24AM

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Perhaps the greatest retribution is that this has the potential to haunt these kids for the rest of their lives - imagine them attending an interview in the future and suddenly the interviewer recognises the name etc.

I sure it will affect schools and colleges they attend.

Nah, it won't affect their prospects now. To paraphrase Charlie Brooker from his column today: Twitter fame can be brutal but its memory is short.

How it affects them psychologically, being worldwide hate figures at just 11, even if just for a few days? Well, that's another story...

Galwayguy35 · 25-06-2012 07:58PM

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Perhaps the greatest retribution is that this has the potential to haunt these kids for the rest of their lives - imagine them attending an interview in the future and suddenly the interviewer recognises the name etc.

I sure it will affect schools and colleges they attend.

I'm not so sure, some people just don't seem to have any conscience or remorse. Remember those kids who bullied Phoebe Prince?
They just didn't care.
Some people are just bad to the bone.

Bullying happens at all ages.

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