Gypsy Begger with 2 bouncers

kupus · 23-06-2012 12:57PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Which country would that be now?

Just as long as they're Irish, eh?

Irish ones do not go around in gangs and then give their proceeds to the boss man at the top who is usually driving a bmw/merc by the way.
A little offering never ends with these scam artists. And they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for fraud and tax evasion.

crazygeryy · 23-06-2012 01:00PM

Augmerson wrote: »

I very rarely, very rarely, give spare change to anyone begging. I know, I'm a bit of a prick, but it's very hard to see the genuine cases from the scammers. The Roma I don't like at all, but then it's hardly fun what they do. Some of them get forced to beg for money, and they themselves don't get it. It's some kind of Mafia.

don't say that about yourself, you are not a prick.
Any chance youd lend me a tenner?

twinytwo · 23-06-2012 01:00PM

james123 wrote: »

Hey

I wanted to do something nice for the missus so got up early to make breakfast. Went over to tesco in drumcondra. Pulled up in the car park on the side and there was a Gypsy begger getting into a sleeping bag,well dressed mind you. Then two burly gypsy bouncers ( better dressed than I was with little red cups) were pacing up and down the footpath checking in every couple of seconds with the main attraction. Peeping around the corner looking quite intimidating.
She then proceeded to ask me for money after I saw all this going on, told her to feck off and said to ask her cronies ,who then came back and pretty much surrounded me. I just raised my voice and pushed my way past them.
This really irritated me, with the state the country is in you have people like this ripping off innocent taxpayers. Also what if i was a pensioner or someone who would be intimidated by this, you would feel forced to pay them money.

:mad:

this reminds me of coming home from college one day these **** come out washing windows on cars and everyone is telling them to **** off. They thrown some dirty water on the window and come looking for money. So they come down to this audi and the driver tells them to go away and yor man keeps at the windows so the driver finally tells him to **** off. Which leds to said window washer throwing a huge kicked into the drivers door.

Driver gets out and gives the washer and his two buddies an absoulte hiding. I mean he battered the 3 of them.

Sadly they had him done for assault.

lookitsme · 23-06-2012 01:04PM

its simple to avoid this ever happening again OP. don't bother doing anything nice for the misses again. let her get up and make her own breakfast.

shopaholic01 · 23-06-2012 01:08PM

I know this is annoying, but the poor woman is probably more intimidated by the 'two cronies', and has no choice but to do this.

tmc86 · 23-06-2012 01:12PM

What did you end up making the missus for breakfast?

irishgeo · 23-06-2012 01:16PM

james123 wrote: »

I said it to both

This is an organised crime gang which is part of a larger network and should be stamped out.

The BBC did an interesting documentary on it in London, followed them around in London while begging with children and then followed them back to Romania where they all live in huge mansions.

Oranage2 · 23-06-2012 01:19PM

irishgeo wrote: »

The BBC did an interesting documentary on it in London, followed them around in London while begging with children and then followed them back to Romania where they all live in huge mansions.

Saw that documentary also, it said somebody would beg for 15 years and the retire to a palace in Romania.

They'd also have housing estates that are all palaces too. Other shocking stuff was selling virgin girls as brides at the age of 12-14.

Mind not all have a palaces.

Madam_X · 23-06-2012 01:20PM

Huge mansions? As in, 10 bedroomed kinda gaffs?

Chuck Stone · 23-06-2012 01:26PM

They should make it an offence to give beggars money.

People are dumb

Including me

lookitsme · 23-06-2012 01:28PM

tmc86 wrote: »

What did you end up making the missus for breakfast?

i would like if someone me breakfast.

nothing to fancy, maybe a nice mixed grill with freshly squeezed orange juice with some freshly made pain au chocolate or fresh waffles with irish strawberries and sweetened cream and a nice mug of tea.

livinonaprayer · 23-06-2012 01:41PM

I give them money sometimes, but other times I feel that they are just professional beggars. I try to give the Irish ones money sometimes but they shout a lot of incoherent, mumbo jumbo and I tend to run off before they have a chance to physically assault me! In all seriousness though, there are beggars on the streets who literally don't have a pot to piss in, and I think it's alright to help people who genuinely need help, especially if you've got an extra couple of quid in your pocket.

My pet hate is people walking to the pub and happen upon a beggar before saying "Ah they'll only drink the money"

Mickey H · 23-06-2012 01:44PM

lookitsme wrote: »

i would like if someone me breakfast.

nothing to fancy, maybe a nice mixed grill with freshly squeezed orange juice with some freshly made pain au chocolate or fresh waffles with irish strawberries and sweetened cream and a nice mug of tea.

Bowl of Museli. Final offer. Take it or leave it.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 23-06-2012 01:45PM

james123 wrote: »

She then proceeded to ask me for money after I saw all this going on, told her to feck off and said to ask her cronies ,who then came back and pretty much surrounded me. I just raised my voice and pushed my way past them.

That was (if it really happened) a stupid course of action to take.

El Weirdo wrote: »

And many others just ignore them and walk on. I really don't see how it's that difficult.

This is what the OP, or anyone else should do in that situation rather than antagonize a potentially aggressive person.

Telling someone to "feck off" or "Fvck off" is like prodding a bloody bomb, leave the situation alone and walk on.

lookitsme · 23-06-2012 01:47PM

Mickey H wrote: »

Bowl of Museli. Final offer. Take it or leave it.

would there be any treats in it like berries, bits of banana, m&m's or just plain auld skittles

Oranage2 · 23-06-2012 01:50PM

livinonaprayer wrote: »

I give them money sometimes, but other times I feel that they are just professional beggars. I try to give the Irish ones money sometimes but they shout a lot of incoherent, mumbo jumbo and I tend to run off before they have a chance to physically assault me! In all seriousness though, there are beggars on the streets who literally don't have a pot to piss in, and I think it's alright to help people who genuinely need help, especially if you've got an extra couple of quid in your pocket.

My pet hate is people walking to the pub and happen upon a beggar before saying "Ah they'll only drink the money"

I've never seen a beggar (Irish or non irish) in desperate need of a meal. To be honest I dont believe there is a beggar in Ireland begging for food. it's all drink/drugs, metal illnesses or just being parasites and by giving them money you're not helping them.

ejmaztec · 23-06-2012 01:50PM

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

Is this the guy?

It couldn't have been him, he's an innocent tax-payer.

tayto lover · 23-06-2012 01:51PM

Beggars in Dublin ???
Find that very hard to believe.

mathepac · 23-06-2012 01:53PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Duh. He had to get home to tell the internet.

But them internet arrest warrants is good - the are enforceable in all virtual countries using virtual policemans, there's virtually no end to their powers.

Augmerson · 23-06-2012 02:01PM

crazygeryy wrote: »

don't say that about yourself, you are not a prick.
Any chance youd lend me a tenner?

Sorry mate I'll get you on the way back.

Galwayguy35 · 23-06-2012 02:03PM

I've no time for beggers, either Irish or Roma. I'm low paid myself but I give a bit when i can to charitable organisations like most people. But I won't give it to someone who comes up to me on the street and demands money. I regard them as leeches.

up for anything · 23-06-2012 02:04PM

james123 wrote: »

This really irritated me, with the state the country is in you have people like this ripping off innocent taxpayers.

Nodin wrote: »

What happened to "innocent people"?

Sure doesn't everybody know that social welfare parasites don't give money to charity and if they did then the catch 22 would set in and they'd be giving away the innocent taxpayers' money to beggars because they're getting far too much money from the innocent taxpayers if they can afford to be giving it away. :rolleyes:

johngalway · 23-06-2012 02:15PM

Charity begins at home, and that's where those scammers should be sent post haste.

I've no problem with anyone coming here to work, plenty of Irish have and are abroad seeking employment. But those who act like the people in the OP should be booted back to where they came from.

Sappa · 23-06-2012 02:23PM

I caught two Romanian gypsies thieving 2 wks ago in Galway.
Was walking my dog and turned up passed jury's hotel,clocked the two toerags walking the other way looking suspicious.
One was dressed as a tourist with a map in hand,the other had all the gypsy glad rags on her.
They were following 2 elderly ladies,I followed from a slight distance and the accomplice opened up the map to full extent,the other one slipped her hand between her scarf and the map and scarf provided cover.
I had a direct view,her hand then snook into the elderly ladies handbag and she lifted the wallet.
I pounced and grabbed tge wench by the neck gave a shout and the 2 elderly ladies turned round,it was about 5:30pm a group gathered and gave the purse back to the lady who was a pensioner from the north on her first visit to the south.
The Romanians went ballistic,spat at my dog,roaring at me,a passerby phoned the cops and the gypsies legged it.
Must say I took great pleasure in giving back the purse and thwarting these parasites.

Spread · 23-06-2012 02:24PM

Just goes to show the breakdown in law and order when a poor Roma has to have a bouncer. The Gardai are falling short again.

srm23 · 23-06-2012 02:27PM

seems to be a lot of them hassling us these days, I prefer the Romas to the dublin junkie type beggars myself. With the Irish lads they always shout some unintelligible remark in your direction but at least if you ignore the gypseys they let you get on with it.

To be honest with the irish beggars, I'm always slightly fearful that if I bend down to drop a few coins in their cup, that they would jump up and stab me.

In a bizarre way I do have some respect for them all the same, at least they are out there putting in a long shift for their few cents, unlikely the people on the dole who get up at mid-day for their fry-up and stroll down to the post office for their free money. :rolleyes:

Gongoozler · 23-06-2012 02:41PM

livinonaprayer wrote: »

I give them money sometimes, but other times I feel that they are just professional beggars. I try to give the Irish ones money sometimes but they shout a lot of incoherent, mumbo jumbo and I tend to run off before they have a chance to physically assault me! In all seriousness though, there are beggars on the streets who literally don't have a pot to piss in, and I think it's alright to help people who genuinely need help, especially if you've got an extra couple of quid in your pocket.

My pet hate is people walking to the pub and happen upon a beggar before saying "Ah they'll only drink the money"

But there's a massive difference there. The person on their way to the pub has earned their money (presumably, and honestly) so they're entitled to spend it whatever way they please. People have a problem giving money to others when it's not spent on things that person needs, like food, shelter and so on. Drinking alcohol is seen as a luxury, so it's a little cheeky to expect someone else to fuel this lifestyle.

Rasheed · 23-06-2012 02:58PM

Was walking up the town one day, got asked by a Roma girl for money so threw her my loose change. I didn't mind , it was pissing rain and she had a baby with her well wrapped up.

50 yards up the street, a woman stopped me and informed me that the baby was a doll. Felt like an eeijit, not sure how she knew, didn't even know if she was telling the truth but I thanked her and kept going.

Went up to the post office and started queuing. Scruffy looking man in front of me that looked Romani. The cashier proceeded to hand over €50 upon €50. Don't know how much.He left and went I went outside after doing my business there and there he was with my woman I threw the money to. No baby, only a big bag.

I will NEVER give money to them again, even if more are deserving, more that crowd have tainted them all in my eyes.

billybudd · 23-06-2012 03:04PM

Ive never had trouble with gypsies, they ask and i politely say no and move on with my life, for the life of me i really dont see why people get pissed of with them, its in their culture to beg so why the suprise? pushy sales people on the other hand are annoying as f88k and harrass me more on the street than gypsies do, charity ones epecially, they should be sent back to their plush offices.

c_man · 23-06-2012 03:14PM

Sappa wrote: »

I caught two Romanian gypsies thieving 2 wks ago in Galway.

Fair play to ya. They're always thieving around that lane beside Jurys.

Gypsy Begger with 2 bouncers

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