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Martin McGuinness to meet Britain's queen

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  • #32
    davet82
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    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    rapidly gets coat and takes davet82's advice

    :pac: wait for me!


  • #33
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    davet82 wrote: »
    :pac: wait for me!

    Sorry, already legged it:D!


  • #34
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    annascott wrote: »
    I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near her or anyone else visiting. It is a disgrace that he is allowed to be a representative of anything to do with Ireland, North or South.!

    Allowed?!?!? There's no allowing. He has been Mid-Ulster's preferred representative since 1997 and last year quarter of a million people wanted him to be our president.
    Do you advocate the suppression of everybody you disagree with?


  • #35
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Like it or not, Sinn Fein is making roots into the publics minds as to where to place their next vote.
    (I expect them at some stage to become the main opposition. FF must be seriously worried. If they aren't they are fools - hang on a minute, they already are!)

    Now I DO NOT agree with some of their ideology etc, but they have been more willing to change in some areas while sticking to other original foundation principles.

    Pity the same can't be said for two other main parties who flip-flop and u-turn faster in two years than FF had done in ten!


  • #36
    c_man
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    Biggins wrote: »
    while sticking to other original foundation principles.

    A dual monarchy to rule over Britain and Ireland?


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  • #37
    Dr.Strange
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    That man isnt fit to stand in Her Ladyships presents nevermind being allowed to touch her on her bum.


  • #38
    Immaculate Pasta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    A drunken aul fella in a pub in Portrush told me that Martin McGuinness is in fact a spy and has been working for the Queen since the 70s. Make of that what you will :cool:


  • #39
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    I don't see why its considered a big deal (boosted by Sinn Fein media chatter) for McGuinness to meet and greet the British Queen. If anything, its more remarkable that the Queen is agreeing to meet and greet him. Mary Lou McDonald was on RTE's Morning Ireland this morning making out that McGuinness' and Sinn Fein's decision was a tremendous act of bridge-building and that they were doing this for everyone on the island of Ireland. Self-serving waffle.

    They'd want to grow up. McGuinness - you're an elected representative - act like one - shake the lady's hand and don't be making yourself out to be some kind of Gandhi-like innocent "getting over" all the horrible things done to you by the Queen and her Governement.

    When the handshake does happen there'll be only one murderous thug in the room (depending on which helpers Martin has with him).


  • #40
    Morlar
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    Personally I do not think he should shake her hand.


  • #41
    Crooked Jack
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    Dr.Strange wrote: »
    That man isnt fit to stand in Her Ladyships presents nevermind being allowed to touch her on her bum.

    It would take a mean bastard to stand on her presents. I doubt he'll do that. Probably wont bring her one himself though


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  • #42
    MrJoeSoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Morlar wrote: »
    Personally I do not think he should shake her hand.

    Why not?


  • #43
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Originally Posted by Dr.Strange View Post
    That man isnt fit to stand in Her Ladyships presents nevermind being allowed to touch her on her bum.
    Crooked Jack wrote: »
    It would take a mean bastard to stand on her presents. I doubt he'll do that. Probably wont bring her one himself though

    Was that the part of that sentence which seemed the most weird to you ?


  • #44
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    My name is URL wrote: »
    If he refuses to meet her you'll have people lining up to say how he's a bigoted idiot.

    If he agrees to meet her the same people will be shouting about how it's only a publicity stunt and so on.

    Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't really.

    The people that spout lines such as 'they should move on forget the past' should take their own advice.

    But the vast majority of people will be saying "who gives a shít?"


  • #45
    Biggins
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    c_man wrote: »
    A dual monarchy to rule over Britain and Ireland?

    There was me thinking it was Gay Michel that wanted something like that: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056418985


  • #46
    fasttalkerchat
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    Immaculate Pasta wrote: »
    A drunken aul fella in a pub in Portrush told me that Martin McGuinness is in fact a spy and has been working for the Queen since the 70s. Make of that what you will :cool:

    You would be surprised how many anti-GFA republicans don't trust McGuinness to the extent that they think he is an agent!

    In which Portrush pup did you deem that conversation a safe one to have?!


  • #47
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I have more respect for her than I do for him, she's an old lady, she doesn't have to do any of this stuff, she'll be in that job till the day she dies, you could see why she might not want to bother with all this stuff more so seeing as how a member of her own family was killed by the IRA, I think she shows real dignity in making this gesture and I think he will be a fool to refuse and will just end up looking like a pathetic dinosaur stuck in the past.


  • #48
    I Heart Internet
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    He won't refuse - the Sinn Fein goodwill ambassadors are working overtime. McGuinness is to be canonised for this heroic act of....ehm.....common sense and decency.


  • #49
    donbon
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Mary Lou McDonald was on RTE's Morning Ireland this morning making out that McGuinness' and Sinn Fein's decision was a tremendous act of bridge-building and that they were doing this for everyone on the island of Ireland. Self-serving waffle.

    As is everything they say, like being anti-austerity in the South whilst introducing it in the North. Their policy is based solely on spouting what everyone wants to hear and god help the economy if they get into power down here in a few years.


  • #50
    Crooked Jack
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    Paparazzo wrote: »
    But the vast majority of people will be saying "who gives a shít?"

    and yet, here you are.


  • #51
    johngalway
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    Half the country met her last year. This isn't news, it's the same business as usual with SF being late to the party.


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  • #52
    c_man
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    How it will not be spun on boards: It's pretty big of the Queen to agree to this. I mean getting over the murder of her cousin and agreeing to shake the hand with him. Fair play to her.


  • #53
    Crooked Jack
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    donbon wrote: »
    As is everything they say, like being anti-austerity in the South whilst introducing it in the North. Their policy is based solely on spouting what everyone wants to hear and god help the economy if they get into power in a few years.

    People who say this tend to have no comprehension about how stormont or the block grant works.


  • #54
    ejmaztec
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    I wonder if she'll offer him a slice of Battenberg?


  • #55
    Biggins
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    He won't refuse - the Sinn Fein goodwill ambassadors are working overtime. McGuinness is to be canonised for this heroic act of....ehm.....common sense and decency.

    Yea its shocking.
    Just like the English queen did in common sense and decency by meeting terrorist Nelson Mandela, King of Saudi Arabia (you know the one that laughts at womens rights in his own country) and many others what supposedly might have been foe of England at one stage and or possible criminals themselves!

    Should she do it, its common sense and decency.
    Should Martin do it - O' its all just a gimmick!

    I'll say it again, some people are never bloody happy.


  • #56
    Fenian Army
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    I have more respect for her than I do for him, she's an old lady, she doesn't have to do any of this stuff, she'll be in that job till the day she dies, you could see why she might not want to bother with all this stuff more so seeing as how a member of her own family was killed by the IRA, I think she shows real dignity in making this gesture and I think he will be a fool to refuse and will just end up looking like a pathetic dinosaur stuck in the past.

    Yeah its not a hard thing for MMG to do at all, play happy families with the head of the BA, the person who pinned medals on her murderers.

    And a serious lol@ your naivety in thinking that this was a gracious invite and not something all parties got together on ages ago and arranged.


  • #57
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Fenian Army wrote: »
    Yeah its not a hard thing for MMG to do at all, play happy families with the head of the BA, the person who pinned medals on her murderers.

    And a serious lol@ your naivety in thinking that this was a gracious invite and not something all parties got together on ages ago and arranged.

    But as I said she doesn't have to do it, she's gotten to her 80's without having to do it so you could see why she would not want all the bother.

    I don't really have any interest in your agenda, we all know where you are coming from and this woman could do backflips and you would still have issues with her


  • #58
    Immaculate Pasta
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    fasttalkerchat wrote: »
    You would be surprised how many anti-GFA republicans don't trust McGuinness to the extent that they think he is an agent!

    In which Portrush pup did you deem that conversation a safe one to have?!

    Yes I have heard that. I'm not from the north and I've only been Portrush that one. Can't remember what it was called but it was on Main Street. The aul fella just started chatting to me at the bar asking me about my religion and political viewpoints (two things I always make a point to avoid talking about when chatting to strangers) and he just started going on Martin McGuinness. In general though I talk about what I want where and when I want though because I'm a mad cunt :cool::pac:


  • #59
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Biggins wrote: »
    Yea its shocking.
    Just like the English queen did in common sense and decency by meeting terrorist Nelson Mandela, King of Saudi Arabia (you know the one that laughts at womens rights in his own country) and many others what supposedly might have been foe of England at one stage and or possible criminals themselves!

    Should she do it, its common sense and decency.
    Should Martin do it - O' its all just a gimmick!

    I'll say it again, some people are never bloody happy.

    I don't get your first point. Yes - the Queen meets/has met a rich tapestry of colourful characters down the years. McGuinness is no exception. She meets who the British Government tells her to meet.

    I never said it was gimmickry for MMG to meet her. I said it was an act of common sense and decency - one that he and his party shouldn't be looking for credit for.

    I'm happy about the meeting. But I'm not going to applaud either side for doing the right thing.


  • #60
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    I'm a dyed in the wool republican and YES I think its a good thing.

    I hope it goes ahead.


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  • #61
    Biggins
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    I don't get your first point. Yes - the Queen meets/has met a rich tapestry of toe-rags down the years. McGuinness is no exception. She meets who the British Government tells her to meet.

    I never said it was gimmickry for MMG to meet her. I said it was an act of common sense and decency - one that he and his party shouldn't be looking for credit for.

    I'm happy about the meeting. But I'm not going to applaud either side for doing the right thing.

    ...And to be clear, I never said you said, it was gimmickry for MMG to meet her - but some are espousing that by their chastisement of Martin for doing it.

    I am just glad that SF and Martin are willing (hopefully) to meet the woman.
    I've disagreed with both over the years because of various areas/topics - but its is a further step forward rather than stalemate or heading backwards into the quagmire of continuing multiple sided hatred.

    They might not deserve awards for either of their actions but at the very least, I'm glad it might happen than not.


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