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Wheel alignment cost?

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  • #62
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    mhigh86 wrote: »
    Oh sorry, hadn't read all comments, it a corolla, they told me only can adjust front wheels, i thought it had to do with being a fwd.:rolleyes:

    This is why proper wheel alignment costs more, your car has front and rear adjustment.


  • #63
    Gatster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Gatster


    Anybody recommend anywhere in North Dublin to get a proper full alignment? My Jeep is pulling to the left slightly and dont want to try Advance but it's the only place left in Swords!


  • #64
    richardsheil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭richardsheil


    Phoenix Tyres beside Croke Park.
    Proper job, proper equipment. Proper guys.


  • #65
    Nissan doctor
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    Gatster wrote: »
    Anybody recommend anywhere in North Dublin to get a proper full alignment? My Jeep is pulling to the left slightly and dont want to try Advance but it's the only place left in Swords!


    Which Jeep is it? Most Wranglers and Cherokees only have front adjustment, but the rear live axle can go off center which can only be corrected by aftermarket parts.


  • #66
    Veloce
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    Do most garages use the recommended alignment settings as set out by the manufacturer for the car when laser alignment is being performed?


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  • #67
    Nissan doctor
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    Veloce wrote: »
    Do most garages use the recommended alignment settings as set out by the manufacturer for the car when laser alignment is being performed?

    They should have, otherwise they can't do it correctly.

    Any of the computer alignment systems normally have the settings pre programmed, you just have to select the specific type of can your aligning.

    The highest spec machines have settings for world wide vehicle models so Japanese or US imports can be selected.


  • #68
    Gatster
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    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    Which Jeep is it? Most Wranglers and Cherokees only have front adjustment, but the rear live axle can go off center which can only be corrected by aftermarket parts.
    It's a Grand Cherokee. I'm booking it into McCanns in Blanch when I get a chance.


  • #69
    Going Forward
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    T-Maxx wrote: »
    Paid €60 today to get wheel alignment done. Took about 30min of which only about half was actually spent working on the car.

    Is this the going rate or was I smoked?

    Were your tyres wearing unevenly?

    Just wondering as folk are getting this done when theres no need. Particularly if the car is driven mainly on good roads.

    Unless theres uneven edge wear on tyres or you have seriously kerbed the front wheels it shouldnt need to be done at all AFAIK, but I am open to correction!


  • #70
    Nissan doctor
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    Going Forward wrote: »
    Were your tyres wearing unevenly?

    Just wondering as folk are getting this done when theres no need. Particularly if the car is driven mainly on good roads.

    Unless theres uneven edge wear on tyres or you have seriously kerbed the front wheels it shouldnt need to be done at all AFAIK, but I am open to correction!

    I always wonder how people drive a car every day and yet don't that the alignment is off unless the tyres wear! Wearing the tyres unevenly means the alignment is fairly badly off. It can be off in several ways without causing noticeable tyre wear.

    While the alignment only being slightly off may not be an issue for your average runaround, but it would be noticeable to anyone with a feel for handling/feedback or for performance vehicles.


  • #71
    Going Forward
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    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    I always wonder how people drive a car every day and yet don't that the alignment is off unless the tyres wear! Wearing the tyres unevenly means the alignment is fairly badly off. It can be off in several ways without causing noticeable tyre wear.

    While the alignment only being slightly off may not be an issue for your average runaround, but it would be noticeable to anyone with a feel for handling/feedback or for performance vehicles.

    Is tyre wear not the actual evidence of misalignment?

    Regular visual cheks should show up if the wheels are at odds with the road.
    I'm not talking high performance cars, ordinary family cars run on budgets.

    If the tyres are ok save the money, its not going to improve anything nor will you feel any difference.


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  • #72
    Going Forward
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    Gatster wrote: »
    Anybody recommend anywhere in North Dublin to get a proper full alignment? My Jeep is pulling to the left slightly and dont want to try Advance but it's the only place left in Swords!

    sounds like a steering component, bushing, tie rod etc has failed.Any knocking heard over bumps?

    Much play in steering when parked?

    Maybe best to get steering checked first because if any of the tie rods have to be replaced it ll have to be aligned after that anyway.


  • #73
    Bobo78
    Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Bobo78


    60 euro for alignment seems very expensive to me.
    The most I had to pay was 30 euro for alignment and that was with 3 different cars and it included both front and rear wheels.


  • #74
    Tigger
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    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    I always wonder how people drive a car every day and yet don't that the alignment is off unless the tyres wear! Wearing the tyres unevenly means the alignment is fairly badly off. It can be off in several ways without causing noticeable tyre wear.

    While the alignment only being slightly off may not be an issue for your average runaround, but it would be noticeable to anyone with a feel for handling/feedback or for performance vehicles.
    Probably going too easy


  • #75
    Gatster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Gatster


    Going Forward wrote: »
    sounds like a steering component, bushing, tie rod etc has failed.Any knocking heard over bumps?

    Much play in steering when parked?

    Maybe best to get steering checked first because if any of the tie rods have to be replaced it ll have to be aligned after that anyway.

    All that has been checked when it was in for a full service last week, there's no untoward play or sounds, and no wear on the suspension or steering components.


  • #76
    JAMES VTI S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭JAMES VTI S


    Front wheel Alignment is Linear across the front wheels and corrects Longitudinal Toe...... angles measured 1. Solution rating 0

    Four wheel Alignment is still Linear and corrects Longitudinal Toe, but in this case the rear wheels will be used as a scale to establish the rear centre line ( Thrust Angle ).....( Assuming ) the rear is central? then the result will be a centred steering wheel.... angles measured 1, reference points 2. Solution rating 1

    Four wheel Laser Alignment...... as above don't be fooled!

    Full Geometry is three dimensional and the only one for the MX.... or any other car. Angles measured 15+. Solution rating:- Absolute. >> Where can this be done in ireland


  • #77
    Nissan doctor
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    Going Forward wrote: »
    Is tyre wear not the actual evidence of misalignment?

    Regular visual cheks should show up if the wheels are at odds with the road.
    I'm not talking high performance cars, ordinary family cars run on budgets.

    If the tyres are ok save the money, its not going to improve anything nor will you feel any difference.


    Yes it is of course, but its the final sign.

    If the alignment is off enough to wear the tyres unevenly then anyone with a licence will be able to feel the problem before the tyres wear as the car will be pulling to one side, shimmying over bumps and uneven surfaces, poorly handling etc

    You mention saving the money if the tyres are ok, if wheel alignment is off, even if not enough to visibly wear one side of the tyre, it will still be wearing the tyres faster then if it was perfect, meaning the tyres have to be replaced sooner, this does not save money. Also, misaligned wheels create more drag, meaning more fuel consumption, this does not save money.


  • #78
    Nissan doctor
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    JAMES VTI S wrote: »
    Front wheel Alignment is Linear across the front wheels and corrects Longitudinal Toe...... angles measured 1. Solution rating 0

    Four wheel Alignment is still Linear and corrects Longitudinal Toe, but in this case the rear wheels will be used as a scale to establish the rear centre line ( Thrust Angle ).....( Assuming ) the rear is central? then the result will be a centred steering wheel.... angles measured 1, reference points 2. Solution rating 1

    Four wheel Laser Alignment...... as above don't be fooled!

    Full Geometry is three dimensional and the only one for the MX.... or any other car. Angles measured 15+. Solution rating:- Absolute. >> Where can this be done in ireland



    There are many places doing full 3D camera based alignment in Ireland, I haven't got a full list but I certainly know a few.


  • #79
    JAMES VTI S
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    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    There are many places doing full 3D camera based alignment in Ireland, I haven't got a full list but I certainly know a few.

    would it be expencive ?


  • #80
    Nissan doctor
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    JAMES VTI S wrote: »
    would it be expencive ?



    Well my place has it and we don't don't charge more then €65 for maximum adjustment.


  • #81
    JAMES VTI S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭JAMES VTI S


    its an mx5 i want it done to as they need to be right


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  • #82
    franksm
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    I got my MX5 done by the NissanDoctor last week - transformed the car, it felt itchy on the road (tramlining) before the alignment job, now it's as straight as an arrow.

    I elected to go for the factory standard settings, but ND offered to enter some more aggressive camber etc in there if I wanted it.


  • #83
    JAMES VTI S
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    franksm wrote: »
    but ND offered to enter some more aggressive camber etc in there if I wanted it.

    so you have adjustable camber arms ??


  • #84
    franksm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭franksm


    The MX5 has by default.

    Here's some info courtesy of http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/alignment.php

    Front
    Caster: 5.0 degrees
    Camber: 1.0 degrees negative
    Toe-in: 1/16", 0.15° or 9 arcminutes total (1/32", 0.075° or 4.5 minutes per side)

    Rear
    Camber: 1.5 degrees negative
    Toe-in: 1/16", 0.15° or 9 arcminutes total (1/32", 0.075° or 4.5 minutes per side)

    Some info here too http://www.miata.net/garage/alignment/index.html


  • #85
    JAMES VTI S
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    cant wait to read it l8r


  • #86
    Nissan doctor
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    JAMES VTI S wrote: »
    so you have adjustable camber arms ??


    MX5's have factory adjustable rear camber.


  • #87
    Going Forward
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    OK OK you have me converted!


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