Psych(e!)ics & Mediums

Ellis Dee · 21-06-2012 04:46PM

It's a real pity, but the various churches, with their control over education and influence in the media and politics, condition people to accept and swallow all kinds of bullshit and mystical, irrational explanations when they just can't cope with reality. Seriously, if your are prepared to swallow all that guff they teach you - from the talking snake through magic trees to moving statues - what won't you believe?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just stop and think for a minute and bear in mind that we can only experience the past,because everything we see or hear has taken some tiny amount of time to reach our brains. Sound and, especially, light move fast, but nevertheless take some time to reach us. Thus we can't even properly experience the present, much less the future. If someone tells you they can experience the future by staring at tea leaves, looking into a crystal ball or stroking a goat's bollocks, they are a gobshite, and you are an even bigger one if you part with your money to them.:):)

http://illuminutti.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/charlatan.jpg?w=627

strobe · 21-06-2012 04:54PM

Seems to be 3 main breeds of psychic near as I can figure.
1. The ones that know they aren't psychic and are just milking the naive and the vulnerable for money.
2. The ones that know they are lying but believe they are doing a good deed by offering people comfort or advice.
3. The ones that genuinely believe they have magic powers.

I'd like to put the first lot in a big bag and throw rocks at it. They're scum, that much worse than your average conman due to the fact that the ones they are conning are people at their most vulnerable.

The second lot I'd like to pit in a big bag and pelt it with, like, pebbles or bean bags or something. They aren't meaning to cause harm but that doesn't negate the fact that they frequently do or that they are being deliberately deceitful. So its the big bag for them to.

The third lot I just kind of petty, I'd stick them in the bag all right because they have the potential to cause just as much harm as the other shower but I dont think I could bring myself to throw anything at the poor ****ers.

Giselle · 21-06-2012 04:58PM

Bad Panda wrote: »

Definitely. Some of them believe they have supernatural ability.

Some are nasty, like Sylvia Browne (below)

Below is from the Montel Williams show. A woman's who's husband died in 9/11...check out psychic's 'powers' in this one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPBU-nwBEjw&feature=related

Yep, I've seen that one.

Seriously, how callous do you have to be to exploit grieving people? I really despise those exploitative chancers.

validusername1 · 22-06-2012 02:47AM

I went to a psychic once, just for the craic. She didn't even say anything about the future, just having guesses about what sort of person I am/what was going on in my life. It was about 3 or 4 years ago so I don't remember much about what she said, but what I do remember was either wrong or stuff that was likely to be true about most people, so it would make sense to say those things to nearly everyone. 'Twas bullshít but then again I did only go with my friends for fun.

southcentralts · 22-06-2012 03:18AM

Throw out a load of random gibberish and wait for someone to respond, great example of a successful psychic OP, if they hit 1 in 10 times they are doing well.

sandmanporto · 22-06-2012 03:56AM

Bad Panda wrote: »

In light of the publicity Psychic Wayne is getting...

...Are there any so called psychics or mediums operating on Boards?

I personally find these people reprehensible. Preying on the grieving/emotional/desperate to make money.

They are liars. Plain and simple.

I'd love to be proved wrong, who wouldn't want to hear from a family member that's passed on?

No proof whatsoever they can contact the dead or tell me (specifically) about my future.

Also,

Why is it, when they're talking to the dead, do they 'get' the first letter right from the person that's supposedly trying to contact you, yet they never get the persons name, but then they're able to tell you sentences they're communicating to the medium?

Here's a funny clip of a 'psychic' failing miserably:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t07UzTcApMI

How do you feel about them, AH?

Well that's your opinion. You will know when you die. end of.

endacl · 22-06-2012 03:58AM

Real Life wrote: »

I hate them and any time i hear of person going to see one i lose all respect for them.

FYP

Helix · 22-06-2012 04:04AM

sandmanporto wrote: »

Well that's your opinion. You will know when you die. end of.

clearly a "psychic" sympathiser

Jester252 · 22-06-2012 04:15AM

did somebody lose someone called, I getting a M
edit I think there is something to this as a goggle ad on this page was for a psychic reading.

Pedant · 22-06-2012 04:44AM

This reminds me of when I was growing up in West Mayo. I used to play among the sheep and cattle most of the time and play five-a-side and hurling outside by the gaelscoil. Then one day, some of the lads dared me to score a cow up the arse. So I did as they said but got caught by the priest. My ma got scared of my zoophilic intentions so she said, "You're moving in with your auntie and uncle in Blackrock, you won't find any livestock to interfere with up there."

So I whistled for a tractor along N59 and sooner or later was on the M50 South. I said "surely they don't allow tractors on the motorway" but the farmer said "don't worry yourself boi I'll have you in Blackrock in a jiffy."

So I pulled up at the D4 mansion about seven or eight and I looked my destination, I was final there. So knocked on the door and plonked me arse inside - finally taking me throne as the fresh prince of Blackrock.

B.A._Baracus · 22-06-2012 04:50AM

On one hand... i see a scumbag selling aload of crap to people :mad: lying and giving false hope ... those people are utter scum... :mad:

Whilst on the other hand,
Life aint fair. Dog eat dog. If people are willing to pay? Why not. Its no different from what other people sell you on in life.

/ ethic crisis.

Bad Panda · 22-06-2012 07:41AM

sandmanporto wrote: »

Well that's your opinion. You will know when you die. end of.

Care to put forward an argument to the contrary?

Bad Panda · 22-06-2012 07:42AM

Helix wrote: »

clearly a "psychic" sympathiser

Must be a psychic. :pac:

danniemcq · 22-06-2012 08:06AM

Con artists the lot of them, cannot stand them and its a massive bone of contention in my relationship as her older sister is ****ing mad about them.

buys them spirit and destiny magazines every week, goes to psychics and is friendly with a palm reader.

She invited him to my house to get her palm read and i went psycho ranting about how they are con artists and scum of the earth, taking money from people deperate for answers and peace of mind. I refused to be in the house with him (for fear that i would end up dragging him out by the scruff of the neck while beating him over the head with a book on common sense)

apparently when he came round to the house he was able to tell my GF that me and her were in a long time relationship and deeply in love.

No **** sherlock, we are living together, you are mates with her sister (so probably have heard) and there are photos of me and my GF in the sitting room where you are.

Christ i'm getting angry now again

Bad Panda · 22-06-2012 10:02AM

danniemcq wrote: »

Con artists the lot of them, cannot stand them and its a massive bone of contention in my relationship as her older sister is ****ing mad about them.

buys them spirit and destiny magazines every week, goes to psychics and is friendly with a palm reader.

She invited him to my house to get her palm read and i went psycho ranting about how they are con artists and scum of the earth, taking money from people deperate for answers and peace of mind. I refused to be in the house with him (for fear that i would end up dragging him out by the scruff of the neck while beating him over the head with a book on common sense)

apparently when he came round to the house he was able to tell my GF that me and her were in a long time relationship and deeply in love.

No **** sherlock, we are living together, you are mates with her sister (so probably have heard) and there are photos of me and my GF in the sitting room where you are.

Christ i'm getting angry now again

Haha what a clown!

I'd have used the opportunity to ambush him with somebody you know, but your girlfriend's sister doesn't.

"I'm sensing....a friendship in the room.."

They really p!ss me off too. Should be a law against professing to bullsh!t like this.

Reiketsu · 22-06-2012 10:32AM

I had my palm read by a lady in Dublin about 4 and a half years ago. Myself and a few friends just went for the craic really. Anyway, she was able to describe my boyfriend, name is brother and tell me their father had died very recently- he'd died 2 days before. She told my friend, the biggest skeptic of us all, she would meet and marry a blonde haired guy called Paul. She met a guy called Paul matching that description a year later and they are now engaged. Told my other friend that she would live in a house beside a church with a view of the sea and thats exactly the sort of place she lived with a boyfriend two years later- he owned the place.

She didnt look at my face once to look for a reaction, just at my palm. I'm still skeptical but I have no shame in saying I was impressed :pac: There is some serious con artists out there though, most definitely.

Bad Panda · 22-06-2012 10:37AM

Reiketsu wrote: »

I had my palm read by a lady in Dublin about 4 and a half years ago. Myself and a few friends just went for the craic really. Anyway, she was able to describe my boyfriend, name is brother and tell me their father had died very recently- he'd died 2 days before. She told my friend, the biggest skeptic of us all, she would meet and marry a blonde haired guy called Paul. She met a guy called Paul matching that description a year later and they are now engaged. Told my other friend that she would live in a house beside a church with a view of the sea and thats exactly the sort of place she lived with a boyfriend two years later- he owned the place.

She didnt look at my face once to look for a reaction, just at my palm. I'm still skeptical but I have no shame in saying I was impressed :pac: There is some serious con artists out there though, most definitely.

I think you remember it how you want to remember it. If I walk into her and didn't utter a word, she would not be able to name my girlfriend. I gaurantee it.

Did she actually come out and say you're father died recently? See, she probably said 'there's been a death'. Most people who go to these con artist have suffered a recent loss too so..

She sounds like she has the game down to tee though. Some of them are very good.

CodyJarrett · 22-06-2012 10:47AM

Ha!

Rabidlamb · 22-06-2012 10:50AM

I loved the Derren Browne episode where he completely discredited the Liverpool chap.
Derek Ackorah has also been shown up to be a sham but the believers still flock like sheep.
The best setup I've seen is where the BBC reporter creates a fake website with some makey uppey history on an old London lane.
They invite a couple of mediums to see if they could sense any troubled history & both spouted the bogus website reports.

These people prey on those who are easily led & convinced, quite sad really.

fatmammycat · 22-06-2012 10:59AM

Bad Panda wrote: »

I think you remember it how you want to remember it. If I walk into her and didn't utter a word, she would not be able to name my girlfriend. I gaurantee it.

Did she actually come out and say you're father died recently? See, she probably said 'there's been a death'. Most people who go to these con artist have suffered a recent loss too so..

She sounds like she has the game down to tee though. Some of them are very good.

Absolutely this- it's confirmation bias at its best. I had a friend attend years ago after a loss in the family, again with the 'oh she told me so many accurate things' but this session was taped, and when we watched the tape it was amazing how much information the 'psychic' fished for without my friend even realising, she hadn't even realised she was nodding a little to various ideas thrown out. Sad really, not a sneery sad, but a little bit of my heart broke for her.

Loomis · 22-06-2012 11:01AM

Irish caller gets fresh with tv psychic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKA085XZjvY

Fromthetrees · 22-06-2012 11:10AM

Mr. Anderson wrote: »

Irish caller gets fresh with tv psychic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKA085XZjvY

I like this, I like this a lot.

Loomis · 22-06-2012 11:13AM

Fromthetrees wrote: »

I like this, I like this a lot.

Ye, delighted to see things like this happen. Despicable people. And I use the word 'people' very loosely.

danniemcq · 22-06-2012 11:17AM

oh i remember the episode of the panel when they had a ghost whisperer or somthing on,

Andrew asked him did he feel any vibes from the building and he started talking about a troubled history etc...

Then Andrew told him that it was a newly built building and he shut up quite qucikly!

bhovaspack · 22-06-2012 11:24AM

I had a close relative who invested huge hopes in these people after she was diagnosed with a terminal illness. She really believed she was going to get better! They allegedly channelled the spirit of a deceased parent (after correctly guessing the name of said parent) who had messages predicting recovery for my relative. She got progressively worse, and passed away. On the balance of things, I don't know what the relative merits of false hope are, though I personally find it very depressing to see a vulnerable person conned.

endacl · 22-06-2012 11:32AM

This is weird. An AH thread full of sensible comment. Me likee.

Bad Panda · 22-06-2012 11:33AM

bhovaspack wrote: »

I had a close relative who invested huge hopes in these people after she was diagnosed with a terminal illness. She really believed she was going to get better! They allegedly channelled the spirit of a deceased parent (after correctly guessing the name of said parent) who had messages predicting recovery for my relative. She got progressively worse, and passed away. On the balance of things, I don't know what the relative merits of false hope are, though I personally find it very depressing to see a vulnerable person conned.

That's really sad. Poor woman.

Bad Panda · 22-06-2012 11:35AM

Unavailbe for Comment sent me this link (apologies, don't know how to embed!).

It's brilliant!

In a nutshell - reporter makes up a false history of a building and it's owner. They get 3 'psychic mediums' to recall what happened. One even goes into a trance and summons the spirit of a someone who doesn't exist!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4qGfNViVN8

shopaholic01 · 22-06-2012 11:48AM

bhovaspack wrote: »

I had a close relative who invested huge hopes in these people after she was diagnosed with a terminal illness. She really believed she was going to get better! They allegedly channelled the spirit of a deceased parent (after correctly guessing the name of said parent) who had messages predicting recovery for my relative. She got progressively worse, and passed away. On the balance of things, I don't know what the relative merits of false hope are, though I personally find it very depressing to see a vulnerable person conned.

That is appalling. I can't imagine what it must be like to be diagnosed with a terminal illness, I'm sure you will cling to whatever hope you can find. However, I really feel there should be some means of reporting these people. If they can perform miracles they should be able to provide details of people and their medical records used as confirmation. Otherwise they should be prosecuted.

What's worse, are the 'complimentary therapists' who convince people to discontinue conventional medical treatment.

I can understand a grieving person consulting a medium - if they take some comfort from it, it may help in the short term. However, I'm sure most will in time acknowledge that it is to be taken with a grain of salt.

Some people consult physics and mediums before making any important decisions, over time the physics know the person's life stories and their vulnerabilities. I'm sure these people are then amazed at the information they are given, and believe it all the more.

I symphatise with you over the loss of your relative. I hope they found some comfort in consulting these people, but I fully understand your feelings towards them.

davet82 · 22-06-2012 11:49AM

what really surprises me, not the depths that some people will go to so they can make a quick buck but the intellegint, well educated people who part with their hard earned cash and lap this shíte up... amazing really.

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