Rodney King Found Dead

Sea Filly · 17-06-2012 08:13PM

Shouldn't have been beaten to a pulp by the LAPD officers.

Other than that... meh.

Truley wrote: »

It wasn't right what the police did but I don't believe the man should be put on a pedestal. He continued to drink and drive dangerously and act like a scum bag even after everything that happened. It was terrible what happened but he's no hero.

Yup.

Delancey · 17-06-2012 08:24PM

Rodney King was a violent thug , jury were right to acquit the Police officers involved.

H2UMrsRobinson · 17-06-2012 08:24PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I hate goody good people.

The man was scum.

He deserved to get treated like scum.

The police are there to...well POLICE. The most a police officer can inflict as a punishment is a spot fine or a caution. They are not there to dole out justice as they see fit. That is the job of the courts and the penal system. What you are basically saying is you hate people who believe in a system of apprehension and presentation at court for a fair trial based on submitted evidence. He may have been scum but there's a legal procedure for dealing with scum that was not adhered to in this instance.

Nodin · 17-06-2012 08:26PM

Delancey wrote: »

Rodney King was a violent thug , jury were right to acquit the Police officers involved.

My arse.

Given the fact that we know exactly what happened, that comment coming from a member of a police service is somewhat troubling.

Big Nasty · 17-06-2012 08:28PM

H2UMrsRobinson wrote: »

The police are there to...well POLICE. The most a police officer can inflict as a punishment is a spot fine or a caution. They are not there to dole out justice as they see fit. That is the job of the courts and the penal system. What you are basically saying is you hate people who believe in a system of apprehension and presentation at court for a fair trial based on submitted evidence. He may have been scum but there's a legal procedure for dealing with scum that was not adhered to in this instance.

While I think some of the comments here are a little harsh the justice system tends to let a lot of scum away with little or no penance.

mirekb · 17-06-2012 08:30PM

H2UMrsRobinson wrote: »

The police are there to...well POLICE. The most a police officer can inflict as a punishment is a spot fine or a caution. They are not there to dole out justice as they see fit. That is the job of the courts and the penal system. What you are basically saying is you hate people who believe in a system of apprehension and presentation at court for a fair trial based on submitted evidence. He may have been scum but there's a legal procedure for dealing with scum that was not adhered to in this instance.

Exactly my point. I don't care whether he was scum or not but I do care that the society in which he lives states that it is ok for the police to abuse their power. They are the ones who MUST uphold the law of the land. If someone else decided to beat him up I'd listen to arguments as to why he deserved it (although I'm not an advocate of violence, personally) but for the POLICE to do it is simply wrong.

MagicMarker · 17-06-2012 08:31PM

Delancey wrote: »

Rodney King was a violent thug , jury were right to acquit the Police officers involved.

Looking at the forums you moderate, I hope to fúck you are not a cop, you should be fúcking ashamed of yourself if you are.

H2UMrsRobinson · 17-06-2012 08:35PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

While I think some of the comments here are a little harsh the justice system tends to let a lot of scum away with little or no penance.

I agree - the scum do not always get what they deserve. On the up side I would hope that not too many innocent people are convicted of crimes they did not commit either. If you make it easier to get a conviction, less hard evidence required etc you increase the chance of convicting innocent people. It's a fine line.

ejmaztec · 17-06-2012 08:35PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

I would imagine (seriously) that the LAPD are real sorry to hear this news.

I expect the only thing they're annoyed with is the trouble they're having trying to get a chalk outline to stick to the bottom of the pool. Someone will no doubt advise them that it would be a good idea to let the water out first.

mirekb · 17-06-2012 08:37PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Looking at the forums you moderate, I hope to fúck you are not a cop, you should be fúcking ashamed of yourself if you are.

Apparently he is. Nice.

Whilst I understand it is difficult to see society at its lowest and not become corrupted by it, it is always sad it happens

The_Kew_Tour · 17-06-2012 08:38PM

mirekb wrote: »

You hate me?

And it's ok for the police to beat up people they regard as scum?

H2UMrsRobinson wrote: »

The police are there to...well POLICE. The most a police officer can inflict as a punishment is a spot fine or a caution. They are not there to dole out justice as they see fit. That is the job of the courts and the penal system. What you are basically saying is you hate people who believe in a system of apprehension and presentation at court for a fair trial based on submitted evidence. He may have been scum but there's a legal procedure for dealing with scum that was not adhered to in this instance.

You do realise that he tried to set these officers to be beaten up in first place?

Nodin · 17-06-2012 08:39PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You do realise that he tried to set these officers to be beaten up in first place?

Rrreally. You've evidence of this?

franklyon · 17-06-2012 08:41PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

I hope to fúck you are not a cop, you should be fúcking ashamed of yourself if you are.

Why should he be ashamed? The guy was a thug, he got what de deserved, he resisted arrest initially, kicking one officer in the chest, no surprise that he got a few kicks as sometimes thats all thugs like him understand.

As someone else said too many PC bleeding heart liberals here.

The_Kew_Tour · 17-06-2012 08:42PM

Nodin wrote: »

Rrreally. You've evidence of this?

yes really.

hence why it was King looking for them then other way around.

People who were meant to set them up even admitted it.

Randy Anders · 17-06-2012 08:42PM

Delancey wrote: »

Rodney King was a violent thug , jury were right to acquit the Police officers involved.

Jesus what a load of fucking bollox. Can't believe someone has this thought process in this day and age

mirekb · 17-06-2012 08:43PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You do realise that he tried to set these officers to be beaten up in first place?

So? I think we've ascertained that he may not have been the nicest man himself but that doesn't excuse a loss of self control on the officers part.

Nodin · 17-06-2012 08:45PM

franklyon wrote: »

Why should he be ashamed? The guy was a thug, he got what de deserved, he resisted arrest initially, kicking one officer in the chest, no surprise that he got a few kicks as sometimes thats all thugs like him understand. .

He was tasered and hit over 60 times.

franklyon wrote: »

As someone else said too many PC bleeding heart liberals here.

Yeah, yeah. We've heard that one before.

Nodin · 17-06-2012 08:45PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

yes really.

hence why it was King looking for them then other way around.

People who were meant to set them up even admitted it.

You've a source for this?

The_Kew_Tour · 17-06-2012 08:45PM

mirekb wrote: »

So? I think we've ascertained that he may not have been the nicest man himself but that doesn't excuse a loss of self control on the officers part.

I aint no fan of Police forces in lot of countries, but if your life was in danger and all that

MagicMarker · 17-06-2012 08:46PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I aint no fan of Police forces in lot of countries, but if your life was in danger and all that

Their lives clearly weren't in danger when they were beating a man almost to death.

Ellis Dee · 17-06-2012 08:47PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I hate goody good people.

The man was scum.

He deserved to get treated like scum.

And what do you call four police officers who savagely beat an almost defenceless citizen almost to death? I call them cowardly criminals. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I know you may find it hard to get your head around this, but no one - not even those who are less than perfect - deserve to be treated like scum, least of all by persons who have sworn an oath to uphold the law, not commit a violent crime.

:)

Randy Anders · 17-06-2012 08:47PM

franklyon wrote: »

Why should he be ashamed? The guy was a thug, he got what de deserved, he resisted arrest initially, kicking one officer in the chest, no surprise that he got a few kicks as sometimes thats all thugs like him understand.

As someone else said too many PC bleeding heart liberals here.

Has nothing to do with bleeding heart liberals. There has to a standard of law enforcement, cops cannot feel they have the right to kick and baton someone to within an inch of their life. Nobody is claiming King was a saint, but law enforcemnt officials have to adhere to procedure. Beating someone on the ground certainly isn't in the procedure manual. If I was to break as many rules in my job, as those cops did that night, I'd be fired on the spot

The_Kew_Tour · 17-06-2012 08:48PM

Fair enough then. You people entitled to your opinion like I am.

We will agree to disagree then.

mirekb · 17-06-2012 08:50PM

franklyon wrote: »

As someone else said too many PC bleeding heart liberals here.

If you read the posts it is not about whether someone somewhere should have given him a few punches, it is about the morality surrounding the police being the ones to give him a few punches.

The police are hired to be upholders of the law. If you heard of an officer making a few bob on the side selling stolen goods, or dealing drugs, you wouldn't be too impressed. By the same rationale it's not ok for them to be beating people up.

Nodin · 17-06-2012 08:50PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Fair enough then. You people entitled to your opinion like I am.

We will agree to disagree then.

A source for your "ambush" story.....?

Nodin · 17-06-2012 08:58PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Fair enough then. You people entitled to your opinion like I am.

We will agree to disagree then.

You stating that he was leading them into an ambush by others isn't an "opinion", it's a declaration of a supposed fact. Evidently you made that one up.

Delancey · 17-06-2012 08:59PM

King was a criminal well before his ' beating ' and remained one therafter , the brief few seconds of the video do not give the full story , the video was actually longer but the full version is rarely shown and of course the video never showed Kings violent behaviour that night.

Folks seeing a video get worked up but it showed just one ( limited )perspective on a serious incident.

mikemac1 · 17-06-2012 09:01PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Blue_(film)

Very good film

It's very tense, the trial is always in the background, you get updates from the radio stations as the police are working through their shifts
City extremly quiet but you feel something is about to kick off.

And everyone waiting for the verdict and wondering what the reaction is going to be

Offtopic, just a good film

It's not about the riots, just they are part of the background

Nodin · 17-06-2012 09:03PM

Delancey wrote: »

King was a criminal well before his ' beating ' and remained one therafter , the brief few seconds of the video do not give the full story , the video was actually longer but the full version is rarely shown and of course the video never showed Kings violent behaviour that night.

Bollocks.

Are you saying that because somebody has a criminal record the police are enititled to beat them to a pulp?

Delancey wrote: »

Below is a link to a famous WW2 photo and it apparently shows a German soldier shooting a mother and child , that is until you see the uncropped version of the same photograph - this is a good example why judges generally do not accept uncorroborated video evidence.

Folks seeing a video get worked up but it showed just one ( limited )perspective on a serious incident.

http://www.codoh.com/incon/daspiktur.html[/QUOTE]
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You're defending a man being beaten to a pulp by linking to a holocaust denial site? Classy.....really, really classy. The community wherever you serve must be delighted to have you.

Delancey · 17-06-2012 09:11PM

Nodin , thanks for alerting me to the background of that site - I was not aware of it and have now deleted that link .
The dangers of Googling....

Rodney King Found Dead

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