Medical intern offers?

They've had to reissue jobs because not everyone was included in the first round due to admin errors. This was the fairest way to ensure everyone got the job they deserved. Typical HSE messing up in the first place!

Yes, that's exactly what I'm questioning too. I have an EU friend that didn't get anything so I figured that some people were wrongly excluded. But except for maybe a very few people at the top of the list, including new people into the match should bump almost everybody, shouldn't it? And how can they know already who will be bumped and who won't, unless they've already processed the re-match? In which case, why can't they tell us our new offers?

vamos77 wrote: »

I also got the "Dear stupid, you really think you got that intern placement you were so happy to get? we were just kidding. Maybe " email.

My contract signing was tomorrow morning at 9, this has upset me greatly as i already made plan for accomodation etc.

Thanks for that!! Made me laugh out loud on an otherwise unhappy evening! And yes, I was wondering about people who had made plans based on their allocations already. I know I certainly wasted enough time looking for accommodation, potentially in the wrong location.

actin wrote: »

I can confirm that interns from TCD, UCD and UL all received these emails.

But not UCC, NUIG or RCSI? Doesn't make sense.... Are their contracts being signed as normal tomorrow? Anyone here know?

The3Musketeers wrote: »

But not UCC, NUIG or RCSI? Doesn't make sense.... Are their contracts being signed as normal tomorrow? Anyone here know?

I've no idea about other colleges; I assumed they received the emails too.

I would suggest that anyone who is concerned about the security of their job offer emails the HSE and makes their voice heard. The more emails they receive, the better!

thatone wrote: »

Yeah RCSI got them too. But not everyone. A good few have no email and none in junk mail etc at all. Such a joke. Was so happy with my spot...

That's very odd. Everyone I've spoken to in UCD/UL (and the one or two in TCD) all received the email.

There seems to be two forms of the email, identical apart from one says :

Unfortunately it is possible that an incorrect post allocation offer was made to you which may be amended in line with the revised results.

and the other says:

In relation to the offer made to you this offer will remain unchanged.

I've heard numerous theories on why this mix up has occurred.

a) There has been a mix up with EU/Non-EU students. Some EU students have been marked as non-EU, and in addition, several non-EU students are kicking up stink that they weren't offered any job despite paying so much for their courses.

b) Students who were not offered places last year (for whatever reason, percentile etc) were meant to be offered a place this year but were not. I've heard this from some people who are interns this year who have heard people in their class who were not offered a place last year were not offered a place this year either.

From what I've heard myself, those with very good percentile rankings have received the "safe" letter while the majority of people have received the "maybe unsafe" letter.

Does anyone have any other information?

Just to follow up on this, I'd be interested in getting a representative from each university class together if this isn't resolved rapidly.

thatone wrote: »

I'm not sure about the percentile rankings, but I know at least two non-eu students that got the unchanged email, so surely they can't guarantee that unless they know what jobs are being changed...?

That is confusing; you're saying that two non-EU students received the email saying their offers would not change? And they received intern placement offers in Ireland on Monday?

actin wrote: »

That is confusing; you're saying that two non-EU students received the email saying their offers would not change? And they received intern placement offers in Ireland on Monday?

I suppose that is not impossible. It all depends on the preferences of the newly-added (previously wrongly excluded) candidates, as well as the preferences of the people they bump. If those non-EU students got posts that no one has listed in their preferences, they might indeed be 'safe'.

Typical incompetence by the HSE.

The CAO run something infinitely more complicated for 50,000 people every year without any problems. This is an utter disgrace.

At least all the new interns get an early sign of what the HSE actually thinks about you.

foreverandever wrote: »

The match that already happened didn't include everyone who was supposed to be in it. They are re-running it to ensure iris fair. People who are "unchanged" are coz they are higher than anyone who was missing from the old match. People who weren't told that, it means people who are now included have higher centilrs than you. It's not a conspiracy, just inefficiency by the HsE to sort it out initially. Hope this clears it up

Yes, I understand that. And I'm ok with the re-match. If I hadn't obtained a post that I was 'entitled' to, I'd be upset too, so I agree that HSE must redo the match and I don't see it as a conspiracy. But, if some non-EU people have been told they are safe, that means the HSE has already redone the match and already knows our new allocations and is just being obsequious by saying 'it is possible...' that 'you may...' receive a new post. I'd rather they just be upfront about it and tell us and not keep us in the lurch over a weekend. We already have precious little time to make arrangements in our own lives. It's the poor communication that is the trouble, not the error itself. And it's not only to us - they haven't maintained good communication with the training networks either, since the networks have been communicating with us re contract signing until Thursday! I imagine they are giving the networks today and the weekend to draft the new allocation list and notification email, but that shouldn't take quite so long. Anyway, nothing to do but just wait and hope the new post you get isn't too far down your list.

More information:

It seems what happened was several students were marked as non-EU when they were in fact EU students. They now have to reallocate jobs taking into account these students. This will drop some people with offers down their lists.

In terms of resolution, the HSE are being almost entirely unhelpful. They claim no offers were made and that it was the universities that made the offers. I personally do not accept this claim; the term offer was used explicitly in the email received last night (Thursday evening) and whilst a university staff member made this offer, if it was not made acting as an agent of the HSE, then under what authority was it made?

This is a serious error on the part of the HSE. They are attempting to rectify the situation by not communicating, acting defensively and placing blame elsewhere.

I would urge anyone affected to, in addition to other posters suggestions, contact the HSE directly to register a formal complaint. Unless they receive these complaints, they will likely claim 'no formal complaints were received apart from a few enquiries'.

Make noise. Email, ring and if needs be, call into people. Don't let your medical careers start by having the HSE walk right over you.

I appreciate the HSE has messed up and it is really inconvenient, there's no doubting that. But they are just ensuring that the right people get the right jobs which is the fairest way. The reason they're saying no non-eu will be affected is the number of people involved about is probably less than the amount of non-eu who have the jobs. I think how they've handled It is disgraceful but I can understand why they have to do it

So are there many eu students wrongly not given intern allocations last monday? This is 1st ive heard of anyone, they should have been screaming thunder over last few days. I personally havent heard of anyone in my college.


This is disgraceful by HSE, we are supposed to start placements and have induction within a couple of weeks yet i can still be matched to absolutely any hospital in ireland. And im also one of people who sorted out accomodation. So whats the best way to complain just ring them up??