The ONLY After Hours thread about the European Championships.

starbelgrade · 14-06-2012 11:55PM

Bambi wrote: »

Lets not get carried away with the grass roots rebuilding here, I don't want to see our young sporting talent being diverted away from the GAA and squandered by the FAI.

Yeah. The FAI really fucked up Kevin Moran's career.

expectationlost · 14-06-2012 11:56PM

so hard to find the apre match on the rte youtube

EDudder · 14-06-2012 11:57PM

SHOVELLER wrote: »

A country that has no football culture or infrastructure and ignores its own league deserves nothing.

As for the fans being the best in the world dont make me laugh. Its very easy to go over to a major championship on the piss but why not support your own league?

A reality check tonight. Football in Ireland needs a complete makeover from top to bottom.

Trap did well to get us here.

I honestly don't know what some people expect. Do you really think the LOI can become something like the premiership?? Look at the size of our country, and we are (these days) quite consistently making it to these tournaments in a manor that Scotland and Wales aren't.

And to people who are giving out to the fans, I'm glad you're in the minority. If I ever seen our fans boo the team off the pitch I would be mortified. It's not what we should aspire to.

IMO, one of the things that actually stops us from reaching our full potential as far as soccer goes is that soccer is competing with one of the nations most nurtured sports (for good reason) GAA football for the same pool of potential players. But this is something you can't change.

expectationlost · 14-06-2012 11:58PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c0U-9mfxXw

K-9 · 14-06-2012 11:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't know if people are freaking out about the result of tonight's game (maybe I'm wrong?). I think people are just surprised that we may well leave with zero points.

The team will do everything to get a result against Italy, whatever about their talent, they are all good, honest pros. Put it this way, if we go a goal down to Italy, the lads will still play as a team. If Holland go a goal down to Portugal they'll whinge and moan at each other, even with a chance of getting through, and look at the talent they have!

My name is URL · 14-06-2012 11:58PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Trappatoni is one of the most respected managers in the world... and for good reason. His list of honours is incredible... including being the only manager in the world who has won every single international UEFA club competition and he's one of the few list of managers who has won league titles in four different countries.

The fact that he is Trapattoni is a manager of impeccable calibre is indisputable.

The fact that we were beaten in two games by two better teams - one of them the best international team in the world - is hardly a surprise. In club terms, it was Sunderland vs Barcelona.

Not even Trap could change that fact. You can talk about kitchens and bakers all night long, but when it comes down to it, you can't polish a turd.

You seem to have done just that =p

I stand by my bakery/baker/some-dope-in-an-apron-with-a-few-eggs analogy.

Trap is a legend and deserves respect, but his fingers just don't knead our dough in the right way.

starbelgrade · 15-06-2012 12:00AM

My name is URL wrote: »

You seem to have done just that =p

I stand by my bakery/baker/some-dope-in-an-apron-with-a-few-eggs analogy.

Trap is a legend and deserves respect, but his fingers just don't knead our dough in the right way.

Ah shurrup & make me a croissant.

Dyr · 15-06-2012 12:05AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Yeah. The FAI really fucked up Kevin Moran's career.

He was a middling GAA player, they were welcome to him. But just imagine if the likes of Pat Spillanes' talents had been squandered on the soccer

. Or Nicky English had been made to head a soccer ball.

We can't risk this this happening, our kids deserve better

Latchy · 15-06-2012 12:05AM

Bambi wrote: »

Lets not get carried away with the grass roots rebuilding here, I don't want to see our young sporting talent being diverted away from the GAA and squandered by the FAI.

No worrys there ,I can't see the young hordes from Kerry all deserting GAA for Soccer .

Dyr · 15-06-2012 12:05AM

K-9 wrote: »

The team will do everything to get a result against Italy, whatever about their talent, they are all good, honest pros. Put it this way, if we go a goal down to Italy, the lads will still play as a team. If Holland go a goal down to Portugal they'll whinge and moan at each other, even with a chance of getting through, and look at the talent they have!

I reckon if they leak an early goal, they'll collapse again.

fryup · 15-06-2012 12:06AM

god i hate the Fields of Athenry its a dreary song about dreary times..can we not adopt another song something more upbeat?

agga doo, nelly the elephant, living next door to alice ..anything other than that prozac inducing drivel

Darius.Tr · 15-06-2012 12:07AM

Wow...the last 7 minutes of the game were amazing....I'have never seen supporters of the loosing team being louder than the winning team. Simply amazing...

IrishAm · 15-06-2012 12:08AM

Bambi wrote: »

Lets not get carried away with the grass roots rebuilding here, I don't want to see our young sporting talent being diverted away from the GAA and squandered by the FAI.

Should they not be working together, instead of fighting one another until the player decides on which particular sport to focus on?

Happyman42 · 15-06-2012 12:08AM

EDudder wrote: »

IMO, one of the things that actually stops us from reaching our full potential as far as soccer goes is that soccer is competing with one of the nations most nurtured sports (for good reason) GAA football for the same pool of potential players. But this is something you can't change.

A start would be accepting that the GAA do it better and try to work in tandem with them, especially at juvinile level, instead of competing for the same pool.
This year we have the insanity of GAA and Soccer looking for considerable bucks for summer camps within a week of each other. The Soccer one is marketed on the back of something the LOI isn't, it uses all the glamour of the premiership to attract star struck kids. It can't live up to that, at least the Cuil Camps market something achievable, eg: the inter county scene.
Domestic soccer needs to face up to what it actually provides and change that.

starbelgrade · 15-06-2012 12:09AM

Bambi wrote: »

He was a middling GAA player, they were welcome to him. But just imagine if the likes of Pat Spillanes' talents had been squandered on the soccer . Or Nicky English had been made to head a soccer ball.

We can't risk this this happening, our kids deserve better

You can't teach GAA players to play soccer. It's too complex. They usually end up eating the ball or riding the corner flags.

Dyr · 15-06-2012 12:10AM

Latchy wrote: »

No worrys there ,I can't see the young hordes from Kerry all deserting GAA for Soccer .

We must remain vigilant, a sporting body is at its most dangerous when it's been wounded and cornered.

dublin_daveyboy · 15-06-2012 12:10AM

god i now wish ireland had a large army and launch pre-emtive strikes on croatia and spain (italy we'll see),

the fcuking cheeck of them beating us like that,bastards!!!!

we need VENGANCE.

starbelgrade · 15-06-2012 12:13AM

dublin_daveyboy wrote: »

god i now wish ireland had a large army and launch pre-emtive strikes on croatia and spain

If McGeady was at the launch controls, he'd probably take out Australia by mistake.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-06-2012 12:16AM

Greetings from Poznan. Great city. Anytone heading over here on Monday be warned: the only beer you can buy in the stadium is alcohol-free! Put a bit of a bummer on the afternoon...

If you don't get a ticket, head for the fanzone. Reasonable priced, b ut you have to buy a weird debit card thingy instead of using cash...

IrishAm · 15-06-2012 12:18AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

If McGeady was at the launch controls, he'd probably take out Australia by mistake.

McGeady is meant to be doing quite well at Spartak. But when he puts on the green jersey he turns into a headless chicken and looks clueless most of the time.

The lad has talent, just has yet to show it whilst playing with Ireland for some reason. Its very frustrating to watch. Nine times out of ten his cross won't clear the first defender.

dublin_daveyboy · 15-06-2012 12:19AM

He couldn't kick ****e off a rope that fella,the pain of tonight has turned to blind rage now,ireland needs revenge either through military action or just send agents over to piss in their water supply

,

anything will do at this stage.

dublin_daveyboy · 15-06-2012 12:19AM

He couldn't kick ****e off a rope that fella,the pain of tonight has turned to blind rage now,ireland needs revenge either through military action or just send agents over to piss in their water supply

,

anything will do at this stage.

Capt'n Midnight · 15-06-2012 12:19AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't know if people are freaking out about the result of tonight's game (maybe I'm wrong?). I think people are just surprised that we may well leave with zero points.

Had we played Italy first then we might have got a point, as they can be slow starters. Had the team we played in the third match already qualified and loosing against us might give them a better draw in the next round then we might have a chance. But we had to beat the team ranked 7th in the UEFA ratings AND draw with the 1st or 4th, AND hope the other results worked out. Italy are in this position now.

A draw against us is no use for Italy unless Spain flatten Croatia at least 3-0, and that isn't that likely.

Worst nightmare for Italy is if they are 1-0 or 2-1 up against us and during injury time Spain kinda let Croatia get a last minute draw so they won't have to face Italy later on. Given the current Italian football scandals the last thing those players would want to do is return home without even making it out of the group stages.

dublin_daveyboy · 15-06-2012 12:20AM

sorry for double post.

fryup · 15-06-2012 12:23AM

^ edit and delete

ascanbe · 15-06-2012 12:25AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Trappatoni is one of the most respected managers in the world... and for good reason. His list of honours is incredible... including being the only manager in the world who has won every single international UEFA club competition and he's one of the few list of managers who has won league titles in four different countries.

The fact that he is Trapattoni is a manager of impeccable calibre is indisputable.

The fact that we were beaten in two games by two better teams - one of them the best international team in the world - is hardly a surprise. In club terms, it was Sunderland vs Barcelona.

Not even Trap could change that fact. You can talk about kitchens and bakers all night long, but when it comes down to it, you can't polish a turd.

The players that took the field tonight deserve no criticism: they gave everything they had.
The same can't be said for Trapattoni as, despite the fact he came nowhere near managing to field/develop the best team he could've in the last few years, he left his team high and dry tonight: at the very least he could've made some changes and brought players off the bench at certain times, many whom are agruably better than those who started, for players who were clearly physically spent.
There's no denying Trapattoni's record or his greatness as a manager in the past: but that does not render him immune from criticism or mean that he should continue in this job.
But, oh yeah, i think John Delaney has already signed him up for the next few years.
Right now, or even after a period of cool reflection, i don't think that prospect will fill many hearts with joy.

Happyman42 · 15-06-2012 12:28AM

Given signalling his retirement on BBC there now?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 15-06-2012 12:29AM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Given signalling his retirement on BBC there now?

Wow that won't good, I'm hoping he at least stays around for the next qualifying campaign.

Latchy · 15-06-2012 12:31AM

Bambi wrote: »

We must remain vigilant, a sporting body is at its most dangerous when it's been wounded and cornered.

Indeed .

I was thinking that the Irish football team (before the Roy Keane /Stephen Ireland era ) was dominated in the main by players from Dublin and the ( 2nd /3rd generation Anglos Saxons ...my granny was born in Athlone )

Like I can't recall a player from Kerry ever playing soccer for Ireland ( yes, I know in the main it's a foreign sport to people from that region ) which tells you how diverse our small country is in terms of sport of course but I've often imagined that talent been harnessed for the greater good of 'Ireland ' as a whole ,across all the sporting divide to include soccer to .

Happyman42 · 15-06-2012 12:34AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Wow that won't good, I'm hoping he at least stays around for the next qualifying campaign.

Reporter asked him directly, 'Are you considering quitting'
Answer: Well it's too early to make a decision, but maybe it's time to let younger players have a chance.

Or words to that effect.

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