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The *ONLY* After Hours thread about the European Championships.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    well done lads, ye tried and that's what matters. We enjoyed it while it lasted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    hondasam wrote: »
    we are the first team to go out

    The Dutch were knocked out yesterday.

    At least that's something, I suppose.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    I laugh at the morons taking a second mortgage out on their homes to travel to these places and then expect society to give handouts when they get back.

    To the gallows I say.

    If you actually know anyone physically able to take a second mortgage out fair play. Otherwise I call bullsh*t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    If you actually l know anyone physically able to take a second mortgage out fair play. Otherwise I call bullsh*t.

    I don't think we're supposed to respond to trolls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    The singing in the last few minutes there has to be the amongst the most touching things I've ever seen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    I disagree - the people singing haven't a clue.

    What is there to sign about. The players should know we are pissed and a performance like this is not acceptable. The way the majority of those played tonight, they don't deserve it.
    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    I laugh at the morons taking a second mortgage out on their homes to travel to these places and then expect society to give handouts when they get back.

    To the gallows I say.

    Stop right there.


  • Administrators Posts: 56,569 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    IrishAm wrote: »
    hondasam wrote: »
    we are the first team to go out

    The Dutch were knocked out yesterday.

    At least that's something, I suppose.

    Holland can still qualify.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Is this the first time we have gone out in the first round of a major championship?

    Stutgard 88
    Italia 90
    USA 94
    S Korea/Japan 02


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    IrishAm wrote: »
    The Dutch were knocked out yesterday.

    At least that's something, I suppose.

    Nope, we're the first out.

    Dutch can still qualify.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    I disagree - the people singing haven't a clue.

    What is there to sign about. The players should know we are pissed and a performance like this is not acceptable. The way the majority of those played tonight, they don't deserve it.

    Ah shutup


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Smeggy


    Fair play to the lads, they did their best, we're only a small nation of 4 million people, how could we stand a chance against the likes of Spain and Germany!

    And fair play to the fans for singing loud and proud and supporting their team regardless of the result. I hate people who only support winning teams, totally not the point of sport!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Is this the first time we have gone out in the first round of a major championship?

    Stutgard 88
    Italia 90
    USA 94
    S Korea/Japan 02

    Germany in 88 would've been the first time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    IrishAm wrote: »
    The Dutch were knocked out yesterday.

    At least that's something, I suppose.

    I think Holland still have a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    To the gallows I say.


    Isn't that one of them Swingers place's

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    My team v Italy

    Westwood

    Kelly Dunne O'Shea Duff

    McLean Andrews Hunt

    Cox Keane Long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    I hate slating players in general. I have no doubt that the lads who pulled on the jersey tonight were committed fully to the cause - even if it didn't appear so. What they are not, is talented. Uncomfortable, slow and clumsy in possession and unfortunately no amount of heart can change this.

    The difference in qualifying and championship performance I think can be explained. When Ireland play countries in qualifying it's middle of domestic seasons. Players (from other nations) aren't as focused given club commitments, Ireland however, with players struggling at club level / free agents can concentrate more on these games. When it comes to tournaments however, all teams have had a few weeks preparations and it's a level playing field.

    Hard luck.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭_Gawd_


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    Stop right there.

    What? Can I not give my opinion? I haven't offended anyone on a personal level....

    What ever is the problem? You might not like my opinion but it's a part of growing up...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Ah well thats it. They did there best the supporters there where great,Maybe we can take lessons from this and move on forward to the WC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Wouldn't we be better off with a younger and more attacking minded manager? I have great respect for Trap but his style just doesn't suit the mentality or physicality of our players. He's too conservative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    Dunne and Andrews would have been of more benefit to the team if they had of sat in the corner out of the way.

    I know Ireland were never going to match Spain but to just give it away from really lazy stupid play bugs me. Same old story again, standing there looking at the ball, not arsed clearing it, couldnt hold onto it to save their lives, resorting to long balls again.

    I dont care what anyone says Trappatoni hasnt improved this team one iota. Perhaps the players aint good enough and this is as far as we could ever get. But its a shame they couldnt give a good account of themselves seeing as though they went through all the bother of getting into the damn thing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭DoneDL


    Well done the fans, despite the result they were brilliant.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭_Gawd_


    Wouldn't we be better off with a younger and more attacking minded manager? I have great respect for Trap but his style just doesn't suit the mentality or physicality of our players. He's too conservative.

    We haven't got the talent for that style of football.

    I admit Trap's tactics have a lot to do with things, but you have to understand he is only working with what he is given. I'm not defending him on any level at all. But let's look at the players - they're rubbish. We're diving into the Championship for players ffs....

    We need a complete make-over of the FAI, the Irish leagues, investment etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    They all play much better with there regular teams,Something has to change in the way our national team is picked and motivated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,175 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Gettin beat 4-0 and you could hear us singing in Germany, the best support in the world and only for them I'd be depressed off me head. Shivers down the spine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭3rdDegree


    We simply don't have the players. Doesn't matter who the manager is.

    I don't blame the lads for tonight. They did their best, but Spain are just so superior to Ireland. It's hard for a small country like ours to compete. But we certainly do try and that is commendable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    We haven't got the talent for that style of football.

    I admit Trap's tactics have a lot to do with things, but you have to understand he is only working with what he is given. I'm not defending him on any level at all. But let's look at the players - they're rubbish. We're diving into the Championship for players ffs....

    We need a complete make-over of the FAI, the Irish leagues, investment etc.

    Yeah, he has to work with what he is given. But what he is given could be put to better use. If a baker knows how to make good bread with minimal ingredients he'll do it to the best of his ability. Trap is like a fella in his kitchen with a bag of flour and a glass of water.

    It's better to find someone that can make use of the ingredients they have before thinking about buying a new kitchen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    3rdDegree wrote: »
    We simply don't have the players. Doesn't matter who the manager is.

    I don't blame the lads for tonight. They did their best, but Spain are just so superior to Ireland. It's hard for a small country like ours to compete. But we certainly do try and that is commendable.

    With this kind of attitude we'd get nowhere.

    Why can't we be as technically good as Spain? We're all human.

    The real problem lies in grass roots football. It's too late for this generation of Irish players, but if things change at junior level, in 10 - 15 years, we'd have a team and fans that wouldn't accept a 4-0 defeat so easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    What? Can I not give my opinion? I haven't offended anyone on a personal level....

    What ever is the problem? You might not like my opinion but it's a part of growing up...

    You're not giving an opinion, you're trolling.

    If you want to slate the players then go right ahead, but don't give out about the supporters who travel all over the world to support the team and have proved to be the best supporters in the world bar none.

    To call them morons is a joke.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    We were absolutely terrible, worst Irish display I have seen. Fair enough we don't have the players but Ireland were always renowned for spirit and giving it a go, the players just seemed beaten from the first minute. I also think Trap did'nt play/left out some very good talented young players that would have made tonights game some bit exciting. I also don't like this defeatist attitude we have like oh its ok we lost we only have a population of 4 million, just look at croatia!fantastic players that give it a lash! Also I don't see the point of singing for a bunch of players that didnt' give anywhere near 10 percent.


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