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Prometheus *SPOILERS FROM POST 1538*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    p_o_s_t_y wrote: »
    Found this on a website,looks like a good interpretation of Prometheus
    http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html

    It's been posted in this thread about a dozen or so times at this stage.

    not that you were to know this of course .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Anonymous User


    I can only imagine they used the 100% DNA match stat to hammer home to the audience that they created us regardless of how much sense it makes .

    That is just lazy (or dumb) script writing. Our DNA doesn't even match 100% that of our parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I think you will find this is the Theme from Alien and it also made a guest appearance in Prometheus, the one you showed was the music that played on LV426

    That isnt the version that plays over the opening credits though, the one I posted does, I cant remember if its the 2003 edition or the original or both, I'll have to check it later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Anyone pick up the art book? Mine arrived today. Its rather nice and one of the better releases of late.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭kronsington


    can anyone remember a film that has provoked this much discussion and debate? i dont think i can. i also cant think of a movie that has divided opinion as much either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    It's been posted in this thread about a dozen or so times at this stage.

    not that you were to know this of course .

    I hadn't seen it before actually.
    Interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,299 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Finally seen it, tis a good enough flick, expected more as was the vibe around here. Left confused and asking why is there so much stupid ****e in it and stuff that dosent add up!

    -The crew is ridiculous was happy the bilogist dies, what an idiot!
    -How is the engineers dna the same as ours when we're clearly not the same?
    -The exploding head scene was gas and green insides? Cliche enough.
    -The black liquid/goo. Assuming thats what the engineer drinks at the start and ultimately disintigrates him why does it react differently? It dissintigrates him, makes the geoligist ultra strong and go full retard and turns a tiny worm into a giant very strong snake thing? And then when someone has sex after consuming it they impregnate the women with an alien? Fair enough, quite the weapon they engineered!
    -Whats the deal with the snake worm thing? Is it a form of facehugger/impregnation thing too? It has acid for blood so one would assume its somewhat connected to the the alien family tree
    -What killed the engineers?
    -Why did it conviniently pile them in a corner
    -Why is there just one engineer left? Did he sleep through the genocide, did he cause it? Was he gonna be in hyper sleep for an eternity?
    -Whats the deal with the suits? The engineers in the hologram are wearing the full one yet when he sits in the chair it just seems to form around him and not really a suit.
    -Where the hell did the other vehicle go when they were running away from the storm???
    -Why does shaw wake up not giving a thundering fcuk that just a while ago she saw her boyfriend go crazy/physically change in front of her and ultimately get set alight and die in the most horrible pain imaginable?
    -What did david say to the engineer?
    -Whats the engineers beef with everybody?
    -Why does the mdical pod only cater for males and is in vickers room? Whats the point in it only catering for males if its so easliy bypassed by just using the touch screen menu?
    -Why are the 3 pilots so ****ing happy that they're gonna be dead in a few seconds in a horrible painful death yet still harp on about there stupid bet?
    -Why is vickers an idiot for not running away from the ship instead of with it in a race that she was never gonna win?
    -How does david know theres other ships and where they are?
    -Why in gods name is shaw going to the engineers home planet after seeing what happened there? Because she wants to know why they changed their mind? Ok, fair enough, but you're probably gonna die but whatever.

    Thats all my niggling questions and observations, havent read the thread really since release so no doubt im just repeating :D Of course its set up for a sequal and maybe a trilogy, does it zone in on shaw or the xeno that came from the engineer?
    Anyways as an alien fan it was good to see where the whole facehugger/xeno thing started, it'll be interesting to see how he evolves them in future films, if he does.
    Fassbender was brilliant, repeaces accent was gas but she did a good job too I felt.


    I was reading this post in the way this guy talks in this video, not that they're in anyway related :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭bertie4evr


    Michael Fassbender in Prometheus:
    kVodv.gif


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner




    Best quotes:
    She’s proving she’s well hard by showing us that all she has to do to recover from two years in suspended animation is some push ups in her wet bra and wet knickers. Everyone else wakes up and is a bit groggy, or throws up. The pussies.
    But we already know they’ve taken two years to get here. And the nearest star to Earth (ok, second nearest) is Proxima Centauri, at 4.2 light years away. So either he’s talking complete bollocks, in which case you’d think the navigator (if they had one) would correct him (if he could bring himself to be interested) or to get here they had to travel at several times the speed of light, and therefore have broken a fundamental Universal constant. If it was the first explanation then it would be plainly visible (even though there’s no such thing) and if it was the second then A) How did they find it themselves? And B) Isn’t the ability to travel faster than the speed of light the real story here?
    Anyway. He then he tells them that the ‘galactic configuration’ has a sun. Aren’t galaxies largely composed of suns? It doesn’t matter. At this point even some of the cast are yawning.
    ...More things happen, and when they get back to the SBS Noomi is three months pregnant and Dr. Holloway’s red-eye is so bad that Charlize Theron has to kill him with a flame-thrower.
    After an extended sequence of events we shall classify as ‘**** happening’, everyone dies except for Noomi and Fassbender.
    Noomi and Fassbender, (who is by now just a head, because that’s just what happens to robots in Alien movies),.
    Nobody is left to ask why. Nobody is left to care. They wouldn’t have done anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    -Why is there just one engineer left? Did he sleep through the genocide, did he cause it? Was he gonna be in hyper sleep for an eternity?


    Actually. That, particularly the bolded bit, is a good question. Maybe this one engineer was just a psychotic dickhead that created the Alien type creatures and killed all his compatriates and hated humans.

    It s completey random, but makes more sense than any other explanation!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy



    Classic:
    Fassbender goes to the bridge, and fires up the computers to see what’s going on. Colourful displays shimmer into being – motion sensitive read-outs unfold and hover in front of him, their only goal in life is to provide him with information, and look great. Fassbender smiles, perhaps marveling at the possibility that one day in the not so distant future, all this marvellous technology could be replaced by clattery keyboards, blinking LEDs and monochrome cathode ray tubes - almost like something out of a 70s horror movie. . .

    Edit:
    and another:
    After hitting the cloud layer the captain asks what the atmosphere is like. Fortunately for everyone on board, the reply isn’t “astoundingly ****ing corrosive.” They could have performed a spectrographic analysis from a safe distance, but whatever. I’m surprised he asked at all. He was probably in a hurry to see if it was snowing, what with it being Christmas and everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,427 ✭✭✭Roar



    ha. that's fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Anonymous User




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    If our DNA and the alien's DNA are an exact match then why are they so much Stronger, Taller and psychically better than us?

    Not to mention blue,, or is blue a racial slur?, It is not my intention to offend any aliens:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Anonymous User


    If our DNA and the alien's DNA are an exact match then why are they so much Stronger, Taller and psychically better than us?

    This DNA stuff is really rubbish. Our DNA and our parents' are not even an exact match.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,678 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Best quotes:

    But we already know they’ve taken two years to get here. And the nearest star to Earth (ok, second nearest) is Proxima Centauri, at 4.2 light years away. So either he’s talking complete bollocks, in which case you’d think the navigator (if they had one) would correct him (if he could bring himself to be interested) or to get here they had to travel at several times the speed of light, and therefore have broken a fundamental Universal constant. If it was the first explanation then it would be plainly visible (even though there’s no such thing) and if it was the second then A) How did they find it themselves? And B) Isn’t the ability to travel faster than the speed of light the real story here?

    original.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    This DNA stuff is really rubbish. Our DNA and our parents' are not even an exact match.


    Not to mention the fact that Engineer DNA is many thousands of times larger than ours. Even air bubbles can cling to the side of it. (air bubbles which would be many thousands of times bigger than strands of our own DNA).

    I think Shaw made a bollocks of it, and in fact tested Engineer DNA, against Engineer DNA by mistake, hence the EXACT match.

    She's an archaeologist after all, not a fúcking biologist - she didn't even attempt to confirm the result with a second test, n00b.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭locustfurnace


    Heading to see it there now in Cork, how is the 3D version of it or would I be better off seeing it in 2D, why I ask is I found the 3D in The Avengers to be a little too dark and am worried this might be the same.
    ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Not to mention the fact that Engineer DNA is many thousands of times larger than ours. Even air bubbles can cling to the side of it. (air bubbles which would be many thousands of times bigger than strands of our own DNA).

    I think Shaw made a bollocks of it, and in fact tested Engineer DNA, against Engineer DNA by mistake, hence the EXACT match.

    She's an archaeologist after all, not a fúcking biologist - she didn't even attempt to confirm the result with a second test, n00b.

    lol lab error is the most likely explanation!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    Heading to see it there now in Cork, how is the 3D version of it or would I be better off seeing it in 2D, why I ask is I found the 3D in The Avengers to be a little too dark and am worried this might be the same.
    ?

    That aspect will be exactly the same as any other current 3D movie - you'll lose around 30% of the brightness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭heybaby


    Caught prometheus yesterday, the 2d version as i simply will not pay inflated prices for 3d. I came to this with an open mind but aware of the hype surrounding the 'Alien' franchise and Ridley scotts involvement. Overall it was an average film at best for me. Its nicely shot but theres very little going on in the film. Also there were more than a few holes in it from the point of view of characters, Charleze Theron's character seemed very one dimensional and i felt she was miscast in this role. Guy Pearse's character could quite easily have been played by an older actor and more convincinlgy too. Noomi Rapace isnt a bad actress but i found it diffficult to relate to her. I have also heard people raving about fassbenders performance, it too was just ok. 5 out of 10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Psychedelic




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Not to mention blue,, or is blue a racial slur?, It is not my intention to offend any aliens:)

    Blue is only a racial slur on the Avatar planet.

    Or smurf-town.


    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Classic:
    Fassbender goes to the bridge, and fires up the computers to see what’s going on. Colourful displays shimmer into being – motion sensitive read-outs unfold and hover in front of him, their only goal in life is to provide him with information, and look great. Fassbender smiles, perhaps marveling at the possibility that one day in the not so distant future, all this marvellous technology could be replaced by clattery keyboards, blinking LEDs and monochrome cathode ray tubes - almost like something out of a 70s horror movie. . .

    Presumably Fassbender, being an Android, doesn't need to even look at the readouts, can he not just connect wirelessly to the ships computer and get the readouts directly to his head. Maybe he's smiling at the idea that those annoying airbreathers are restricted to such indirect means of obtaining information. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,566 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    can anyone remember a film that has provoked this much discussion and debate? i dont think i can. i also cant think of a movie that has divided opinion as much either

    It hasn't really divided opinion.

    From what I can see there are people who were dispointed in it and point out all of the ridiculousness of the movie. Like when you go out with a GREAT looking girl and find out she's as dim as a door and prone to saying stupid and embarrassing things. You can't go out with this chick, despite her great looks!

    Then you have others who know this ridiculousness exists, but choose to say "Well, it's Sci-Fi and works with expansive themes". Like those who will go out with the same girls but who will choose to go "Yeah, sure she's stupid. But she's a good cook, is good at darts and.............. DAT ASS!!!!!!"

    No division of opinion at all. I haven't seen anybody really defend all the stupidness present in this movie!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I was listening the slashfilm podcast about it and they make a good point, if the xenomorph at the end is the result of the goo being used by david to infect Holloway who then inpregnates Shaw who gives birth (sorta) to the squidhugger then impregnating the engineer. why is there a carving/statue of a being thats clearly a xenomorph in the temple? if they know what the things already are then thats a lot of chance and setup to get to the point where the xenos come from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    Funfun image time:

    The mural in full size. Notice the queen-like crest on the top and the humanoids+facehuggers in the bottom left and right.

    H.R. Giger concept art for Alien. As seen in the Prometheus mural. Guess those humanoids are engineers?

    Mural from Prometheus in detail. No idea what's going on there.

    The 'xenomorph' at the end of the film is definitely not the first one. It just arrived through a drastically improvised (and bizarre) way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    OctavarIan wrote: »
    Funfun image time:

    The mural in full size. Notice the queen-like crest on the top and the humanoids+facehuggers in the bottom left and right.

    H.R. Giger concept art for Alien. As seen in the Prometheus mural. Guess those humanoids are engineers?

    Mural from Prometheus in detail. No idea what's going on there.

    The 'xenomorph' at the end of the film is definitely not the first one. It just arrived through a drastically improvised (and bizarre) way.

    The first image just reminded me of something that struck me while watching the movie, am I the only one who thought it looked like Jesus on the cross?

    Possibly a worship kind of thing on the engineers part??


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