Why has Poland such a problem with racists?

theteal · 08-06-2012 07:30PM

I should hope they have a problem with racists. . .if not, they would be racist

telly_lover · 08-06-2012 07:31PM

AndyTheDude wrote: »

Why has Ireland such a problem with racists? :rolleyes:

it doesnt

telly_lover · 08-06-2012 07:32PM

Aquila wrote: »

Same could be said about any western European country....

not really , the media and cultural elite in western europe never stop talking about the evils of racism

goodie2shoes · 08-06-2012 07:32PM

i agree every country has its' racists, in every town & city.
racism as it exists in Ireland is little more than the ramblings of a few (usually drunken) idiots.

however it appears to be so much more organised in Poland.
how a country that was raped & pillaged by Nazis little more than half a century ago can embrace/tolerate such a philosophy is mind-boggling.

any ideas?

AndyTheDude · 08-06-2012 07:34PM

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

Thread's about Poland as far as I can tell.

tis indeed. Let's leave the good, old Irish racists alone and focus on those Polish bastards exclusively.
The pot calling the kettle black...

polskafanka · 08-06-2012 07:34PM

goodie2shoes wrote: »

I ask this question as I'm baffled as to why a country which suffered so much at the hands of both the Nazis and the Russians appears to harbour so much racist feelings.

Is it a Catholic thing or simply feeling of inferiority?
Can we Irish learn anything from it?

What makes you think Poland has such a problem???
I was born there, I have spend over 25 years there and I never met anyone who was racist. My brother when he was little was dreaming about beeing black (because he loved basketball) and all my friends were open minded idealist.
There are certain groups of usually young male -often pseudo football fans - there usually come from poor pathological families -they are lost, there are frustrated and they feel stronger and better together hating somebody...
Were is poverty and no bright future it is easy to find frustration and aggression.
There is another group of old catholic fanatics, but there are just scared of things they are not familiar with...

gurramok · 08-06-2012 07:35PM

Aquila wrote: »

Same could be said about any western European country....

Yes, Spain comes to mind as a recent case. Spain has also a large Catholic population just like Poland and Ukraine. Perhaps both religion and communism has had a bad negative influence on the uneducated in those countries?

08-06-2012 07:35PM

I spoke to a few of the polish lads I work with and they agreed that racism is definitely present at a high level in Poland. They went so far as to say "if you are black and live near or in the city there would be a lot of trouble for you".

The first time I noticed that there may be a high amount of racists in Poland (I don't think we're short of them here mind...) was when Microsoft photoshopped a white guys head on to a black guys body in an advertisement picture for Microsoft office made specifically for Poland. You could see the hands were still black...

They would have a similar issue with gay people too, even if it was their friend that was gay, it would be something that would REALLY bother them... I'm at a loss to explain these prejudices though

Chucken · 08-06-2012 07:36PM

goodie2shoes wrote: »

i agree every country has its' racists, in every town & city.
racism as it exists in Ireland is little more than the ramblings of a few (usually drunken) idiots.

however it appears to be so much more organised in Poland.
how a country that was raped & pillaged by Nazis little more than half a century ago can embrace/tolerate such a philosophy is mind-boggling.

any ideas?

Go and read post 30 then get back to us

telly_lover · 08-06-2012 07:36PM

goodie2shoes wrote: »

i agree every country has its' racists, in every town & city.
racism as it exists in Ireland is little more than the ramblings of a few (usually drunken) idiots.

however it appears to be so much more organised in Poland.
how a country that was raped & pillaged by Nazis little more than half a century ago can embrace/tolerate such a philosophy is mind-boggling.

any ideas?

anyones guess , could be down to the fact that eastern europe has always been mono ethnic with the exception of a jewish minority which is now minescule , poland , russia etc have no history of black citizens , hence the reaction when poles and russian football fans encounter non whites

Nodin · 08-06-2012 07:36PM

goodie2shoes wrote: »

i agree every country has its' racists, in every town & city.
racism as it exists in Ireland is little more than the ramblings of a few (usually drunken) idiots.

....or people who post on message boards - like yourself for instance.

goodie2shoes wrote: »

however it appears to be so much more organised in Poland.
......

....you know trying to justify your dubious attitude to Poles by highlighting some of your fellow travellers is a bit much.

08-06-2012 07:36PM

Humans should not be concerned about each other. We need to be more concerned with the aliens living amongst us!

telly_lover · 08-06-2012 07:39PM

gurramok wrote: »

Yes, Spain comes to mind as a recent case. Spain has also a large Catholic population just like Poland and Ukraine. Perhaps both religion and communism has had a bad negative influence on the uneducated in those countries?

catholicism has its issues but compared to many other religons , intollerance by way of racism has rarely been one of them

DingChavez · 08-06-2012 07:40PM

Stop getting your information about other countries from the British media.

true · 08-06-2012 07:43PM

usually its foreigners who ask why has Ireland such a problem with racists, not the other way round.

We've exported our racists to kill people in pubs and shopping centres overseas, after all

djPSB · 08-06-2012 07:44PM

I don't think they have problems with racists, THEY ARE RACIST!!

polskafanka · 08-06-2012 07:47PM

djPSB wrote: »

I don't think they have problems with racists, THEY ARE RACIST!!

You know what, every time I see in American movies Irish character who is a drunk and a looser I don't belive it, because I know it is not true
-and you should not be calling me a racist because I am FAR from that.

Nodin · 08-06-2012 07:47PM

true wrote: »

usually its foreigners who ask why has Ireland such a problem with racists, not the other way round.

We've exported our racists to kill people in pubs and shopping centres overseas, after all

What racists would these be?

Battered Mars Bar · 08-06-2012 07:48PM

AndyTheDude wrote: »

tis indeed. Let's leave the good, old Irish racists alone and focus on those Polish bastards exclusively.
The pot calling the kettle black...

I don't understand. First we don't have much of a problem with racism in this country imo. Second are you saying so that we can't have a thread to discuss racism in Poland because there's a small number of racists in our country?

or are you saying that Ireland can't speak critically of another country because after all who are we to be crtical of anyone, simple Paddies that we are :rolleyes:

Your point on Irish racists could be a good comparison, but of that you've made none.

true · 08-06-2012 07:52PM

Nodin wrote: »

What racists would these be?

to you they are patriots:D

Nodin · 08-06-2012 07:54PM

true wrote: »

to you they are patriots:D

I've never advocated racism, so I think you're mistaking me with someone else.

Again - who are these racists you referred to?

Chucken · 08-06-2012 07:57PM

djPSB wrote: »

I don't think they have problems with racists, THEY ARE RACIST!!

What? A country of 40 million are all racist?
By gum!

Ms.M · 08-06-2012 08:01PM

true wrote: »

usually its foreigners who ask why has Ireland such a problem with racists, not the other way round.
We've exported our racists to kill people in pubs and shopping centres overseas, after all

Oh give us a break! :cool:
You're not Irish and racism is rampant in your own country. Go worry about that!
You're having enough fun on the "Mothers anger at IRA medal" thread, don't start hijacking this one.

gurramok · 08-06-2012 08:24PM

There is a black player on the Czech side tonight playing against Russia, I haven't heard a single boo or racist chant while he had the ball. Game is at Wroclaw.

Oranage2 · 08-06-2012 08:34PM

I was talking to a friends family who are Poles and they were complaining about the Chinese eating all their swans - I thought the irony was funny and came up with the conclusion that they're probably as racist as us.

chughes · 08-06-2012 08:35PM

Why has Poland such a problem with racists?

Maybe because the feel that they are Poles apart from everyone else.

Duggys Housemate · 08-06-2012 08:42PM

Anti-racism is the new nationalism.

IamtheWalrus · 08-06-2012 08:44PM

The English media have been blowing the issue out of all proportion before a ball has been kicked. The Dutch team suffered abuse from some idiots and it got great coverage. Hence many column inches of over-analysis. Every country has it mis/uneducated fools.

All started from the Panorama programme. We don't know if that was a true reflection of Poland/Ukraine. The programme makers had to make it look bad.

Lets wait until a few games in before labelling an entire nation.

Duggys Housemate · 08-06-2012 08:47PM

true wrote: »

usually its foreigners who ask why has Ireland such a problem with racists, not the other way round.

We've exported our racists to kill people in pubs and shopping centres overseas, after all

Did we? Didn't most of those lads, come from the UK?

forfuxsake · 08-06-2012 08:52PM

I lived there for 7 years, have family there and I know thousands of Polish people and I d find them quite racist. Few black people move there as they have never colonised anywhere and the language is hard to learn. I spoke to two black guys one night who played for Wisla Kraków(one of those drunken I love black people embarrassing conversations) and they felt that on one hand it was very racist but on the other they got an incredible amount of poosé due to their status as footballers and from the fact that many girls are not racist.

We are probably less racist due to the Nigerian population and the fact that we are inundated with British media, culture and sports.

As Poland becomes more cosmopolitan they will change. The overt booing kinda racism is from poor white trash who are pretty dumb to the point where they believe that Auschwitz never happened or was severely exaggerated .

Why has Poland such a problem with racists?

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