Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Where's the justice?!!

13567…10

Comments

  • #62
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    I don't feel good that the drunk got unjured, but as someone regularly accosted by the sea of shuffling drunks and junkies around town, I sort of understand the frustration. Nobody should have to put up with a boozed up idiot pissing on their shoes - and I can bet very few of the high-horse sitters on this thread would have put up with the same treatment without at least a slap being thrown. Granted, the response was a bit over the top, but if he didn't know how high the drop was, he didn't know how high the drop was.

    If the gardai would just clear the drunks and the junkies off the main streets, stuff like this wouldn't happen as often. How many times have people seen tourists getting hassled and intimidated by these zombies? What sort of message does that send out about Ireland, that we are so blase about allowing this to happen?


  • #63
    Ms.M
    Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭Ms.M


    I don't believe in capital punishment even for murder, so not going to agree with it for a pissing and acting like an obnoxious cnut offence.
    Would have been glad if he taught the kid a lesson with a few digs, but if he knew it was "at least an 8 foot drop" then he knew he might kill him. In a fit of blind rage, I'd know not to attack someone in this manner because it would be me that would end up injured. I don't accept the "in the fit of blind rage" excuse.

    Let us all take a moment to emotionally prepare for the possibility that someone, someday might piss on our shoes.
    Let us practise our jab/kick to the balls combo.
    Let us not throw offender over a wall.


  • #64
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Fenian Army wrote: »
    Its because he is a trinners lecturer, if he was some ordinary joe soap from tallaght he'd be behind bars.

    If he was some ordinary Joe Soap this wouldn't even be in the papers.

    A six year suspended sentence isn't lenient, if the guy crosses the line he is banged up straight away. Based on his otherwise good character this seems appropriate.

    Was the guy's family with him when this happened? did Mr Kennedy start hassling him infront of his family and intimidating them? if someone did that to me I hate to think what i would do to be honest.

    I'd like to think I would stop short of throwing him over a wall, but in the heat of the moment.....


  • #65
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Guy should get a ****ing medal, too many lawless untermenscen roaming the streets thinking they are impervious, this one got more than he bargained for. I doubt he'll be peeing on any more shoes, except of course his own


  • #66
    Ms.M
    Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭Ms.M


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    I'd like to think I would stop short of throwing him over a wall, but in the heat of the moment.....

    Read my post. You have to mentally prepare yourself for these eventualities.
    Hommmmmmmmmmmmm.


  • Advertisement
  • #67
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Ms.M wrote: »
    Read my post. You have to mentally prepare yourself for these eventualities.
    Hommmmmmmmmmmmm.

    In fairness, normally you should expect to be able to wait for a bus in peace without an inebriated f**ckbend hassling or pissing on you. On the other hand, it is Dublin this happened in...


  • #68
    xsiborg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    Ms.M wrote: »
    Let us all take a moment to emotionally prepare for the possibility that someone, someday might piss on our shoes.
    Let us practise our jab/kick to the balls combo.
    Let us not throw offender over a wall.
    Ms.M wrote: »
    Read my post. You have to mentally prepare yourself for these eventualities.
    Hommmmmmmmmmmmm.

    thanked purely for making me LOL this morning when going through this thread, cheers Ms. M :D


  • #69
    senordingdong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    DB10 wrote: »
    He has to wear a tracksuit to be a scumbag according to some on here.

    If it was the other way round and the big shot American Trinity lecturer got those life threatening injuries, I wonder would the drunk man have got a suspended sentence.

    It would depend.
    Mr lecturer was able to bring to the table the fact that he was a lecturer of the upper crust, and had a wife and child and no previous record.

    What could Mr Kennedy bring the table? Spouse? Children? No previous offences? Plethora of offences? Drug addiciton? Troubled upbringing?

    A judge gives more credence to these things than he does the actual offence comitted.


  • #70
    finty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭finty


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    In fairness, normally you should expect to be able to wait for a bus in peace without an inebriated f**ckbend hassling or pissing on you. On the other hand, it is Dublin this happened in...

    and Abbey st too.

    You cant stand on Abbey st for more than 5secs without some pissed/stoned local giving you hassle.


  • #71
    BornToKill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭BornToKill


    With the suspended sentence will he be able to get a vise for the US?


  • Advertisement
  • #72
    finty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭finty


    BornToKill wrote: »
    With the suspended sentence will he be able to get a vise for the US?

    Em.....he's american! I dont think americans need a visa to go home :)


  • #73
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I always thought that in Irish Law the severity of what you're charged with for assault is dependant on the effect it has on the victim rather than your intentions :confused:


  • #74
    griffdaddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    If this happened next to the Irish Life building on Abbey Street, I'm not surprised at all. There's a massive drop behind a relatively low wall and it was only a matter of time before someone fell or got pushed down there. There's always people pissed and junked up swaying around while sitting on it. Seems like a ridiculously dangerous thing to have in the middle of town


  • #75
    treacyjane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭treacyjane


    may be something in his shoes


  • #76
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    It was not an instinctive response. You don't throw someone over a wall in one single movement. It's a calculated act.
    I'd disagree. The kind of massive adrenaline surge that can happen in these situations can give a person near superhuman strength, but the downside is they lose control almost completely.

    Anyway the question is I'd say, is the man likely to be a threat to society in future or a productive and useful member? A suspended sentence in these circumstances is warranted. If he steps out of line again, he'll be sent to prison.


  • #77
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I think that if the guy had nothing to do with Trinity and wasn't American, this case would have passed by with barely a whipple.


  • #78
    senordingdong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Don't forget that there are two people involved in this and both were out of line.

    Whipple was reported to say 'He pised on my shoes and I'm ****ing sick of it'.
    I too am sick of this type of anti social behaviour and how rampant it is.

    Kennedys injuries should not absolve him of his behaviour and if Whipple was prosecuted, why they **** wasn't Kennedy prosecuted for drunk/disorderly, urinating public, provocation, harrassment or exposing himself etc...


  • #79
    Phil the Greek
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23 ✭Phil the Greek


    Hopefully Mr. Kennedy will only be pissing on his own shoes from here on in.

    Mr. Whipple deserves a citizenship award for his heroic defence of his dignity.


  • #80
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I don't have any sympathy to what happens to someone that goes around urinating on people.

    I bet if this was a news story about someone urinating on a homeless man most people here would be saying the perpetrator deserves a beating.


  • #81
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    What a piss/push among pal


  • Advertisement
  • #82
    UglyBolloxFace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    He's not a lecturer at TCD and has never been, according to his LinkedIn profile.

    He studied at TCD, but is currently working at the Centre of English Studies as an EFL (English as a foreign language) teacher.

    And by the way, why hasn't he been deported? If this were an Irish lad in the US, he would be locked up for decades and then deported.


  • #83
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Think I may know John, though it's been a few years. there can't be too many Whipples around this town...

    I remember him as a very placid guy, very easy to be around. Fair play to him, say I....

    The shoe-pisser, on they other hand, we could probably do without.;)


  • #84
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    What type of shoes were they ?

    Were they suede?

    Were they blue ?


  • #85
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    I remember getting a few digs one night around there, I'm assuming the drop was that drop into the kind of moat thing around the Irish Life Centre? I'm glad I wasn't trun in there ffs!


  • #86
    Warper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Sinfonia wrote: »
    Some dick starts hassling him, then takes his wang out and starts pissing on his shoes; he sends him over a wall with an unexpectedly long drop on the other side. Afterwards, he pleads guilty and apologises. Sounds like the instigator was the 'scumbag' to me.

    Wha?? Are u for real? The guy should have been locked up for years. Nearly killing someone is a serious offense or at least i thought it was. The way this country is going it is more to do with your background and wealth than the actual offense. The guy is a scumbag and wow, he apologised and pleaded guilty, what else was he gonna do. Interesting that when some onlooker asked him why he threw him over the railing, the scumbag just shrugged.


  • #87
    Show Time
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    I would not be to happy either if some drunken fool pissed on my shoes.


  • #88
    senordingdong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Warper wrote: »
    Wha?? Are u for real? The guy should have been locked up for years. Nearly killing someone is a serious offense or at least i thought it was. The way this country is going it is more to do with your background and wealth than the actual offense. The guy is a scumbag and wow, he apologised and pleaded guilty, what else was he gonna do. Interesting that when some onlooker asked him why he threw him over the railing, the scumbag just shrugged.

    Prison is no longer a place you go for penal servitude, it is a place to lock up people who are a risk to society.
    A once off, provoked outburst by a respectable man does not warrant 'locking up'


  • #89
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    It's interesting how this is so divisive.


  • #90
    senordingdong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    stupidusername wrote: »
    It's interesting how this is so divisive.

    It is, it would have been better to see them both prosecuted for their offences, but how and ever.


  • Advertisement
  • #91
    Warper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    senordingdong wrote: »
    Prison is not a place you go for penal servitude, it is a place to lock up people who are a risk to society.
    A once off, provoked outburst by a respectable man does not warrant 'locking up'

    You obviously dont know prison. How is a person that doesnt pay fines etc. be considered a danger to society? This guy willingly threw a guy over railings which obviously was going to cause serious harm. A respectable man, where did you get that from, lecturer from Trinity was it? A once-off life-threatening outburst should be jail. What would have happened if the guy was killed, would you still agree with a suspended sentence. The guy is permanently disabled due to this scumbag's actions. Justice in this country is a joke.


Advertisement
Advertisement