Casually killing creatures

steddyeddy · 07-06-2012 09:30PM

bullets wrote: »

If it does not bother me I wont bother it.

Spiders/Flys, I wont actively try and kill them and will move em out of the
way with as sheet of paper or waving that arms to get them out the window.
I dont see a NEED to kill anything living without a reason.

Rodents I've had them as pets as a kid so wont try and kill them without a
good reason, I've 10 Cats so they take care of any vermin in the neighborhood but I will still try and prevent them from killing anything if its in my face.

Bearing in Mind I'm a gun owner but anti-blood sport but at the same time
I'm no tree hugging hippie and love my McDonalds burgers and have no issue
with culling or stopping vermin, and I have no issue with Animals been killed
for food (Pigs are cute and make great pets and are intelligent but they also taste great when I dont have to do the nasty killing of them) I do draw the line when it comes to Trophy Hunting when it comes from Killing for the thrill of the hunt when the animal does not need to die, regardless of the excuses that it brings in XXX amount of cash to a 3rd world country or it was bred to be hunted etc etc etc (insert excuse) it kinda leaves me in Limbo land.

seen over in the hunting/shooting boards before things that have stumped me.

Some lad who used to shoot Rabbits as vermin until there was no rabbits about his patch of land
and then he has a bright idea of introducing them into the area again just so he's got something to shoot. That makes no sense whatsoever. It basically means he's done his job with ridding the area
of vermin but not wants to re-introduce the vermin just because he wants the pleasure rather than requirement to shoot and kill them.
area
~B

What hes doing is bascially using an antiquated term like vermin to justify killing them for fun.

Spunk84 · 07-06-2012 09:31PM

If it walks or crawls and can be killed, it will be killed;) Kill it before it kills you:eek:

shopaholic01 · 07-06-2012 09:33PM

Spunk84 wrote: »

If it walks or crawls and can be killed, it will be killed;) Kill it before it kills you:eek:

Humans walk and kill .................................

Fizzlesque · 07-06-2012 09:36PM

BornToKill wrote: »

More likely those were giant water bugs rather than cockroaches. They do look alike though when roasted!

Thanks for that information, BornToKill....and that creepy picture link

It was so long ago, I have no way of knowing if it was giant water bugs or cockroaches, you may be right. However, I would like to add, at the time I read a Thai newspaper, that was printed in both Thai and English (each Thai-written story had an English-written version at the side, that had an article/advertisement asking people to collect cockroaches to be sold on (I don't know who was buying them). I remember wondering what this was about, but it was just a newspaper lying around in the cafe I had lunch in one day, that I picked up to read, so my knowledge of the subject is very limited.

Either way, I'd much rather not eat whatever creature was being roasted...no matter how hungry I got, and I was often hungry during that particular trip but hunger was sometimes preferable to the food on offer

Cork24 · 07-06-2012 09:39PM

I try my best not to kill spiders or flys, or bugs at that,

I don't kill foxes, but I do kill rabbits I try my best to get a quick kill on them, it's not very often.

I don't kill something that I wouldn't eat..

Stompbox · 07-06-2012 09:41PM

How many people here who have confessed that they don't feel comfortable in killing any creature also readily consume animals they haven't killed directly?

The King of Moo · 07-06-2012 09:42PM

dodderangler wrote: »

Why do I need a reason?
I hunt that's my reason it's my pastime

I can't imagine that would be universally popular on the hunting forum.

I seriously can't understand why someone would kill another animal without a reason. It's a mindset I just can't understand at all.
Why? If the animals aren't doing you any harm and you don't receive any benefit from killing the animal, why not just leave it alone?

Honestly, while I've tried to understand the viewpoint, I find it frightening that there are people out there who would kill animals without any reason.

Where To · 07-06-2012 09:44PM

I try not to kill anything.

Apart from rats, mice, magpies, crows, cats, minks and hedgehogs.
I'd kill em all but they don't count as animals.

BrokenArrows · 07-06-2012 09:45PM

Anything that makes a mess when you stand on it.

The Internet Explorer · 07-06-2012 09:46PM

Never have I intentionally killed anything. I have been known to save various life forms from various drinks, toilets and other highly dangerous things.

On one or two occasions I have unfortunately had to end the life of cousin fly because of ****ed up body syndrome or NWLs (No Wing Left Syndrome)

It's what they would have done for me.

Rest in Peace.

Pedant · 07-06-2012 09:47PM

I've constructed a miniature concentration camp at the back of my garden. It's about 2 meters squared and has electric fences about one foot in height around the perimeter. Anytime I come across spiders, mice, rats and other vermin, I just place them inside the miniature concentration camp. When the camp gets crowded, all of the vermin are placed inside a small gas chamber I constructed that's about the size of two shoe boxes. I feed some natural gas from a canister into the chamber for about 15 minutes. After that time, all the vermin are dead. At another end of the camp, I've constructed a small brick crematoria and place the dead in there. Their ashes are dumped into a small pit outside the perimeter of the camp.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 07-06-2012 09:47PM

people have hunted since.. we were people
it's was for food sure, clothing yeah.. but there was also a thrill in the hunt and in the kill

I don't hunt and I never will, traipsing around in the cold and wet to shoot something when I can just go to the butchers for dinner just seems stupid to me but I will never deny that hunting and killing other animals is a natural and ancient human passtime.

enjoying the activity and even the kill is worlds away from torturing or maiming animals for sport, one is normal and human the other is a clear warning sign for future sinn fein voter.

Spunk84 · 07-06-2012 09:47PM

Where To wrote: »

I try not to kill anything.

Apart from rats, mice, magpies, crows, cats, minks and hedgehogs.
I'd kill em all but they don't count as animals.

You might want to take down Hedgehogs:eek: There a protected Irish animal!!!!

Jester252 · 07-06-2012 09:48PM

Whatever Dr. Booth tells me to kill

Spunk84 · 07-06-2012 09:49PM

Pedant wrote: »

I've constructed a miniature concentration camp at the back of my garden. It's about 2 meters squared and has electric fences about one foot in height around the perimeter. Anytime I come across spiders, mice, rats and other vermin, I just place them inside the miniature concentration camp. When the camp gets crowded, all of the vermin are placed inside a small gas chamber I constructed that's about the size of two shoe boxes. I feed some natural gas from a canister into the chamber for about 15 minutes. After that time, all the vermin are dead. At another end of the camp, I've constructed a small brick crematoria and place the dead in there. Their ashes are dumped into a small pit outside the perimeter of the camp.

What about the gold teeth, i heard theres a "Killing" in gold teeth:D

Where To · 07-06-2012 09:52PM

Spunk84 wrote: »

You might want to take down Hedgehogs:eek: There a protected Irish animal!!!!

I take them down everyday

dodderangler · 07-06-2012 09:52PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

dodderangler wrote: »

Why do I need a reason?
I hunt that's my reason it's my pastime

Im not strictly anti hunting but your doing hunters no favours saying you kill for no reason other than fun.

I never said I do it for fun not did I say I do it for no reason I have my reasons but I asked why should I need one

cormie · 07-06-2012 09:54PM

dodderangler wrote: »

Why do I need a reason?
I hunt that's my reason it's my pastime

Would you accept the same reasoning if a serial killer happened to choose somebody close to you as one of their victims? After all, you don't seem to put value on other creatures lives (other than a dog) so could you argue with them for thinking and acting the same, it's just a case of maybe your lists differing in what's on your hit list. Not using any man made laws or beliefs of course? Just a question, not wanting to start any debate here

micropig · 07-06-2012 09:55PM

Where To wrote: »

I take them down everyday

Do you do bait badgers too?

The King of Moo · 07-06-2012 09:56PM

dodderangler wrote: »

I never said I do it for fun not did I say I do it for no reason I have my reasons but I asked why should I need one

dodderangler wrote: »

Why do I need a reason?
I hunt that's my reason it's my pastime

The sole reason you gave was that it's your pastime, which effectively means that you do it for fun.

Pastimes are usually fun.

dodderangler · 07-06-2012 09:57PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

dodderangler wrote: »

Why do I need a reason?
I hunt that's my reason it's my pastime

I can't imagine that would be universally popular on the hunting forum.

I seriously can't understand why someone would kill another animal without a reason. It's a mindset I just can't understand at all.
Why? If the animals aren't doing you any harm and you don't receive any benefit from killing the animal, why not just leave it alone?

Honestly, while I've tried to understand the viewpoint, I find it frightening that there are people out there who would kill animals without any reason.

My question was why do I need a reason? Why is it anyone else's business what I do it for
If you must know I eat majority of animals I kill
I give to neighbours aswell
As for crows and foxes I kill them to control them foxes especially even tho I wouldn't get many

Where To · 07-06-2012 09:57PM

micropig wrote: »

Do you do bait badgers too?

Only two-legged ones

The King of Moo · 07-06-2012 10:00PM

dodderangler wrote: »

My question was why do I need a reason? Why is it anyone else's business what I do it for
If you must know I eat majority of animals I kill
I give to neighbours aswell
As for crows and foxes I kill them to control them foxes especially even tho I wouldn't get many

Because it's cruel but more importantly, worrying, if someone kills animals without a reason.
I think it's understandable that someone would be curious about why another person would hunt.

I don't know why you didn't mention you eat most of the animals you hunt earlier.

The Aussie · 07-06-2012 10:01PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

which creatures are ok to casually kill?

Could i say Scummers who tie up pensioners and beat them to a pulp while tied up.
Or is that one of the things i should not think out loud about.

Spunk84 · 07-06-2012 10:01PM

cormie wrote: »

Would you accept the same reasoning if a serial killer happened to choose somebody close to you as one of their victims? After all, you don't seem to put value on other creatures lives (other than a dog) so could you argue with them for thinking and acting the same, it's just a case of maybe your lists differing in what's on your hit list. Not using any man made laws or beliefs of course? Just a question, not wanting to start any debate here

Jeffrey Dahmer ate what he killed;) On a serious note, No you cant make the distinction between a serial killer and a hunter!!! Serial Killers break the law by killing humans, Hunters follow the law and seasons to harvest game. Now if it was legal to hunt humans then hunters would have to follow the same principle of seasons and laws i.e women only hunted during the summer as they are most active and kids hunted year round as they keep appearing out of no where. Always follow your country's laws and you should be grand:)

Deus Ex Machina · 07-06-2012 10:02PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Anything that I could see, I'd feel guilty about killing on purpose. I did flamethrower a spider one time, but he was huge - and I tried about 20 times to catch him and put him out the window. He didn't play ball.

Jaysus, flamethrower is a touch extreme no? Oh we had to euthanise granny, called in an artillery strike on the hospital.

BornToKill · 07-06-2012 10:06PM

Spunk84 wrote: »

If it walks or crawls and can be killed, it will be killed;) Kill it before it kills you:eek:

Austrian accent: If it bleeds, we can kill it.

Odysseus · 07-06-2012 10:10PM

No probs killing any type of food, same with vermin rats, pigeon etc; I'm out with the rifle and shotgun most weekends.

Violafy · 07-06-2012 10:10PM

My unchangeable opinion is that anyone who kills animals for fun is completely barbaric - absolutely no excuse for it. I couldn't care less if it's a "tradition" that some people seem to want to maintain - tradition becomes invalid when it allows either humans or other animals to suffer.

I understand that people may be more emotionally attached to dogs than insects, but I'd never harm either, and find it a bit hypocritical when those who get outraged about the fur trade etc think nothing of squashing any spiders they find in their house.

Pedant · 07-06-2012 10:12PM

Spunk84 wrote: »

What about the gold teeth, i heard theres a "Killing" in gold teeth:D

I shave off all the rats hair and put it into pillow cases.

Casually killing creatures

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