Do you consider Ireland a Banana Republic?

thebankers · 05-06-2012 01:14AM #1

I mean come on. For such a small country, things should run like clockwork. It never amazes me when I go abroad for long periods of time how things tend to "just work" most of the time, and most genuine people tend to play by the rules for the benefit of society as a whole, whereas the irish mentality boils down to "me first". There is absolutely no sense of community or equality in this country, and it shows at every level.

Is it any wonder the country is in such a state when you consider the plutocracy which governs this country is exchanging political votes for "services", not to mention the fact that corporatism is responsible for such wonderful schemes like "SlaveBridge" - a bridge to Slavery, not to mention the fact that these foreign companies praise Ireland and it's workforce despite paying their tax through an intricite shady offshore schemes and recruiting slaves -_-

Have you had enough of being taken for a ride, or are you content with taking others for a ride? There is no inbetween catagory in this country.

Capt'n Midnight · 05-06-2012 01:17AM

Are we still the largest manufacturers of bananas in the EU ?

I'm not joking it was an amazing tax-dodge

Johro · 05-06-2012 01:17AM

Don't forget that those other countries with their wonderful infrastructure have much greater populations and therefore many more tax dollars to spend on them.

GLaDOS · 05-06-2012 01:18AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Are we still the largest manufacturers of bananas in the EU ?

They're actually garlic cloves, don't tell anyone though

thebankers · 05-06-2012 01:22AM

Johro wrote: »

Don't forget that those other countries with their wonderful infrastructure have much greater populations and therefore many more tax dollars to spend on them.

Proportionately speaking, I mean. The value for level of service in the public sector should be practically constant, regardless of the size of our domestic economy to a larger one. I still think there is no excuse for the daily plundering of resources by our beloved political class.

Johro · 05-06-2012 01:31AM

thebankers wrote: »

Proportionately speaking, I mean. The value for level of service in the public sector should be practically constant, regardless of the size of our domestic economy to a larger one. I still think there is no excuse for the daily plundering of resources by our beloved political class.

Fair enough. Your government are a shower of idiots told what to do by bigger idiots.

Latchy · 05-06-2012 01:41AM

thebankers wrote: »

I mean come on. For such a small country, things should run like clockwork. It never amazes me when I go abroad for long periods of time how things tend to "just work" most of the time, and most genuine people tend to play by the rules for the benefit of society as a whole, whereas the irish mentality boils down to "me first". There is absolutely no sense of community or equality in this country, and it shows at every level.Have you had enough of being taken for a ride, or are you content with taking others for a ride? There is no inbetween catagory in this country.

That's the thing with been Irish and living in Ireland ,you find from an early age that there is no level playing field when it comes to equality and the pilliars of society you once so genuinely put your trust and faith in ,took you for a ride ,if only because you let them and you may also soon discover that those 'close' friends ' ...really weren't /aren't that close and the only person you can really trust ...is yourself .

^ well ...something like that :pac:

thebankers · 05-06-2012 01:41AM

Johro wrote: »

Fair enough. Your government are a shower of idiots told what to do by bigger idiots.

Yeah. True dat. It just irks me that you have people here praising the fact we beat the British to gain independence, only to hand over most of our power to unelected Sociopathic Technocrats in Brussels.

I really had to shake my head at that vote the other day. Have we no sense of pride? I want this country to be better. Everybody here deserves better. This can only start with a break from our current situtation.

Run_to_da_hills · 05-06-2012 01:49AM

A puppet run banana republic

eth0 · 05-06-2012 01:50AM

What? Sure they don't even grow here. Maybe in a greenhouse

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TeddyTedson · 05-06-2012 01:53AM

eth0 wrote: »

What? Sure they don't even grow here. Maybe in a greenhouse

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Yea but we spray them and export.

Johro · 05-06-2012 01:54AM

thebankers wrote: »

Yeah. True dat. It just irks me that you have people here praising the fact we beat the British to gain independence, only to hand over most of our power to unelected Sociopathic Technocrats in Brussels.

I really had to shake my head at that vote the other day. Have we no sense of pride? I want this country to be better. Everybody here deserves better. This can only start with a break from our current situtation.

Well, locally speaking, I keep seeing the same old faces doing the rounds, county councillors who should have retired years ago, smoothing the way for their business mates and taking turns as mayor, spouting the same ole shite in their local newspaper columns, I wish they'd f#ck off already. Dinosaurs.
I came to live here in 1984 when people were leaving the country to find jobs, now we're back there again. You do wonder what happened with the money made during the boom, coz health and education are worse than ever and the roads are still crap.
Politics in Ireland needs a radical overhaul.

Fromthetrees · 05-06-2012 02:01AM

We're on the way...:(

Latchy · 05-06-2012 02:05AM

With so much at stake for so many ,fear of the unknown was the factor as to why the vote swung to the Yes vote and no doubt many of those YES voters will have thought long and hard about it before deciding but would it really have got any worse if the No vote had the majority ? It would have been nice to 'rock the euro ' boat to be able to stand up and be counted so to speak but one thing the Irish don't like is to shoot themselfs in the foot , be left in the minority and out in the cold ,especially when it's the stronger euro neighbour Germany calling the shots .

thebankers wrote: »

Yeah. True dat. It just irks me that you have people here praising the fact we beat the British to gain independence, only to hand over most of our power to unelected Sociopathic Technocrats in Brussels.

It will probably take a while for it to sink in ( if it hasn't already ) but that basically is that and ROI is really now only a Republic in name ...with a big fat 'Euro plc ' behind it .In 4 years time the 100th anniversary of the Rising will take place but it won't be the same republic their grandfathers and great grandfathers fought for that the old soldiers will be marching in tune to ,for the price of independence that many could never have imagined ...

Doc Ruby · 05-06-2012 02:07AM

Five post troll has five posts.

christmas2012 · 05-06-2012 02:16PM

I still think its a a banana republic because,in the 80's there were no jobs,the 90's was a fake boom,the 00's were back in the depression,so what have our governments done for us is what i am left thinking with regard to the economic state of our country.No job creation as of yet,but they said if you vote lisbon youre voting yes to jobs?!if you vote yes on this current referendum you are voting yes for jobs?!Look at the roads in ireland,gay burn talks about getting roads safer what about all the potholes and bumps on the road if a car hits that at 60 mph??Its all bull****..Which leads me to believe our government is nothing short of a farce,i mean look at all the quangos,as you rightly pointed out jobbridge,a job blocker which sucks what could have been a paid job out of the community,yet our banana government tout this as a positive thing,creating more unemployment?And as for the tax dodgers their good business associates on board this slavery scheme it makes a complete mockery of every irish voter,it shows what our government really think of us..

mikemac1 · 05-06-2012 02:23PM

Jobs for the boys isn't new, been going on for centuries

Around 1910 Arthur Griffith President of Sinn Féin said it would be easier to remove the British from power in Ireland then it would be to remove cronyism from Irish local politics.

It's not the exact quote but something like that

It was probably even worse back then and the people didn't have access to so much information as now

Show Time · 05-06-2012 02:24PM

There are less corrupt countries in Africa and South America.

Show Time · 05-06-2012 02:26PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Five post troll has five posts.

What the f**k are you blabbering on about.

Dr Turk Turkelton · 05-06-2012 02:27PM

What an insult to lesser Banana Republics like Burkino Faso and Zaire etc whose politicians can only look on in envy at what our elected officials can get away with,with no consequences.

For gods sake these people take pride in banana republicanism by seizing power through military junta's and run the risk if a war trials in the Hague.Over here all they have to worry about is a gravy train report and a bit of a ribbing in the Sunday Independant.

Bad Panda · 05-06-2012 02:27PM

Studious?

Capt'n Midnight · 05-06-2012 02:39PM

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

What an insult to lesser Banana Republics like Burkino Faso and Zaire etc whose politicians can only look on in envy at what our elected officials can get away with,with no consequences.

In fairness Bertie did give pep talks to the Nigerians recently.

Zebra3 · 05-06-2012 02:45PM

thebankers wrote: »

Have you had enough of being taken for a ride

Sick of it, but people keep voting for FF/FG/Lab. People are idiots. What can you do?

Nothingbetter2d · 05-06-2012 02:48PM

we should replace democracy with an automated governing system... fair and equal.....

it should have extremely tough security systems with independent backup systems in hidden locations to avoid corruption.

smash · 05-06-2012 02:50PM

Potato republic!

steddyeddy · 05-06-2012 02:51PM

Show Time wrote: »

There are less corrupt countries in Africa and South America.

I met one of the heads of the un security forces when I was in Africa and he told me Ireland is easily as corrupt as somalia or other african countries.

dRNk SAnTA · 05-06-2012 02:54PM

Ireland used to be a bit sh1t compared to other countries, but I'd argue that in the last decade a lot of things have seriously improved. Now we are well up there I think.

It's easy to bash but saying things like "when I go abroad for long periods of time things tend to "just work" most of the time" is actually bull****. I've just been away for almost a year and a half and I can tell you that's not true. The grass is always greener...

dRNk SAnTA · 05-06-2012 02:59PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I met one of the heads of the un security forces when I was in Africa and he told me Ireland is easily as corrupt as somalia or other african countries.

And the UN Security Forces know a lot about corruption in this country do they?

I met the world's best Ultimate Frisbee player and he says that Osama Bin Laden and Barack Obama are brother and sister.

dvpower · 05-06-2012 03:01PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Five post troll has five posts.

Has a familiar ring 'tho.

05-06-2012 03:02PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Are we still the largest manufacturers of bananas in the EU ?

I'm not joking it was an amazing tax-dodge

Didn't Fyyfes shares drop from about 4500 to about 44 cents each a couple of years ago, so probably not anymore.

steddyeddy · 05-06-2012 03:03PM

dRNk SAnTA wrote: »

And the UN Security Forces know a lot about corruption in this country do they?

I met the world's best Ultimate Frisbee player and he says that Osama Bin Laden and Barack Obama are brother and sister.

Well he was formerly a high ranking individual in the Irish army. How many of the people in Ireland actually found out in massive corruption faced jail?

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