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Can I break someones nose and get away with it easily?

  • 04-06-2012 08:40PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭


    Say if I go to Galway for a night to visit a friend and I hypothetically get into a fight, lets say completely unprovoked on the other persons part, and break someones nose, how do the Guards know who I am?
    I'm not violent in anyway, haven't been in a fight since school ect. I'm just genuinely curious can you actually do this and get away with it quite easily. I wouldn't be known around Galway, say I only have my smokes and cash on me and 'I don't remember where my friend lives', what the hell can they do? :confused:

    I'm all too well aware I may have too much to think about pointless stuff.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    Why would you want to get away with someones nose?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Say if I go to Galway for a night to visit a friend and I hypothetically get into a fight, lets say completely unprovoked on the other persons part, and break someones nose, how do the Guards know who I am?
    I'm not violent in anyway, haven't been in a fight since school ect. I'm just genuinely curious can you actually do this and get away with it quite easily. I wouldn't be known around Galway, say I only have my smokes and cash on me and 'I don't remember where my friend lives', what the hell can they do? :confused:

    I'm all too well aware I may have too much to think about pointless stuff.

    Leave you in a cell until you squeal:rolleyes:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Well, you've ruined it now, as I'm going to prowling around Galway every night looking for a guy punching another guy in the nose.

    I'm the hero Galway deserves, but not the hero Galway needs right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Why would you want to break a persons nose?

    Get back to the trees you sub human animal! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Well, you've ruined it now, as I'm going to prowling around Galway every night looking for a guy punching another guy in the nose.

    I'm the hero Galway deserves, but not the hero Galway needs right now.

    Be careful, Moo!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ertred


    Arrest you, detain you, fingerprint you, photograph you, charge you, get you remanded in custody for a week, get you before the circuit, have you jailed for two years for an unprovoked assault.... I hope you enjoy the night:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Be careful, Moo!

    I'll be careful. I'll keep a close eye on the trees. I don't know why, but I've a feeling that when he attacks, he'll come from the trees...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    ertred wrote: »
    Arrest you, detain you, fingerprint you, photograph you, charge you, get you remanded in custody for a week, get you before the circuit, have you jailed for two years for an unprovoked assault.... I hope you enjoy the night:)

    That's a good answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    You could become "The phantom Cracker", dress in black and sneak up to people in dark alleyways, rabbit punch to the nose and away on your toes. Slight problem is the first person you try it on might just go "ow" and then kick the b0llix out of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    The secret to getting away with it is to do it in a country where people can beat seven shades of **** out of each other with hurls in the middle of the capital city without being interrupted.

    In a country like that do you really think the police force are going to come looking for you??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Leave Galway alone :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Say if I go to Galway for a night to visit a friend and I hypothetically get into a fight, lets say completely unprovoked on the other persons part, and break someones nose, how do the Guards know who I am?
    I'm not violent in anyway, haven't been in a fight since school ect. I'm just genuinely curious can you actually do this and get away with it quite easily. I wouldn't be known around Galway, say I only have my smokes and cash on me and 'I don't remember where my friend lives', what the hell can they do? :confused:

    I'm all too well aware I may have too much to think about pointless stuff.

    CCTV, big brother is always watching. I'm sure your movements could be traced.
    You have a pps number or phone or parents, it takes very little time to find out who you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Someone's been watching Fight Club without parental supervision again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Only way to get away with breaking someone's nose, is by punching them in the dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,273 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Say if I go to Galway for a night to visit a friend and I hypothetically get into a fight, lets say completely unprovoked on the other persons part, and break someones nose, how do the Guards know who I am?
    I'm not violent in anyway, haven't been in a fight since school ect. I'm just genuinely curious can you actually do this and get away with it quite easily. I wouldn't be known around Galway, say I only have my smokes and cash on me and 'I don't remember where my friend lives', what the hell can they do? :confused:

    I'm all too well aware I may have too much to think about pointless stuff.

    What makes you think the guards give a f**k?

    They're too busy protecting scum like Ahern and Biffo. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    That's a good answer.

    It's also fiction. You'd get away with it easily, actually - look at Facekicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭southcentralts


    Break someone's nose - small potatoes.
    If you really want to impress us with something, try robbing a bank and get away with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    It's also fiction. You'd get away with it easily, actually - look at Facekicker.

    Funnily enough Facekicker got thrown in prison for what he said. (in cyberboards.ieworld)

    The answer I responded to seemed plausible in some way but realistically you can just make up an address and name so your not going to be held in detention for 2 weeks or whatever (it's not the north).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Judge Fahy in Galway would eat ya for breakfast OP

    You should read the court reports in Galway Advertiser, not a week goes by without some young lad or lady ripped to shreds in the courtroom with a humiliating rant

    Galway is not the place to land yourself in District Court


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Only way to get away with breaking someone's nose, is by punching them in the dark.

    How about leaving broken signposts on footpaths for joggers?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    how do the Guards know who I am?


    can you actually do this and get away with it quite easily.

    Did you realy think you can't be arrested if the garda does not know you? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam



    The answer I responded to seemed plausible in some way but realistically you can just make up an address and name so your not going to be held in detention for 2 weeks or whatever (it's not the north).

    You can make up a name if you want but you will be held until the gardai are satisfied with your ID, that means verifying your details how ever long it takes, the faster you tell the truth the faster they let you go. Simple really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    To multiple posts,
    say I'm arrested, give a 'real' name, 'real' (not Galway) address but I can easily never be in Galway again to realistically never be seen by any arresting Guard again. Say even the Guards have to drop you off at a specific place and you say you can't remember exactly where your friend lives. Are they going to drive you home to Waterford, even if they did that, pick someone you don't know that well, person goes yeah he lives here, they call with a warrant a few weeks later, person you don't know that well goes yeah he doesn't live here anymore.
    All the while your living it up back in Dundalk and the Guards will never know.
    I'm sorry okay, it just seems like you could get away with it way too easily with little forward thought or planning.
    That's the point like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    To multiple posts,
    say I'm arrested, give a 'real' name, 'real' (not Galway) address but I can easily never be in Galway again to realistically never be seen by any arresting Guard again. Say even the Guards have to drop you off at a specific place and you say you can't remember exactly where your friend lives. Are they going to drive you home to Waterford, even if they did that, pick someone you don't know that well, person goes yeah he lives here, they call with a warrant a few weeks later, person you don't know that well goes yeah he doesn't live here anymore.
    All the while your living it up back in Dundalk and the Guards will never know.
    I'm sorry okay, it just seems like you could get away with it way too easily with little forward thought or planning.
    That's the point like.

    You cannot get away with it, if you are arrested to confirm your identity then that is what they will do, every address you give they will contact the local gardai to find out if they know you and get them to call to the address to check it out.
    The more suspicious you make them the longer they will hold you. Why do you think it's this easy to give a false name?
    You will have to convince them you are who you say you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    To multiple posts,
    say I'm arrested, give a 'real' name, 'real' (not Galway) address but I can easily never be in Galway again to realistically never be seen by any arresting Guard again. Say even the Guards have to drop you off at a specific place and you say you can't remember exactly where your friend lives. Are they going to drive you home to Waterford, even if they did that, pick someone you don't know that well, person goes yeah he lives here, they call with a warrant a few weeks later, person you don't know that well goes yeah he doesn't live here anymore.
    All the while your living it up back in Dundalk and the Guards will never know.
    I'm sorry okay, it just seems like you could get away with it way too easily with little forward thought or planning.
    That's the point like.

    They wont let you go anywhere until they're 100% sure of your identity and address details. That's assuming they arrest you as the victim decides to press charges. If the victim doesn't press charges you'll quite likely be let go or worst case scenario given a ticket for Drunk & Disorderly / Affray.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    RMD wrote: »
    They wont let you go anywhere until they're 100% sure of your identity and address details. That's assuming they arrest you as the victim decides to press charges. If the victim doesn't press charges you'll quite likely be let go or worst case scenario given a ticket for Drunk & Disorderly / Affray.

    He will still need to confirm his details before he is let go. If he has no ID on him he will be taken to the station until they can confirm who he is.
    They have a computer system for a reason. It's pointless giving a false name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Teddy was assaulted on several occasions and never pressed or attempted to follow up with "tha pooolice"
    But if it's witnessed by an upstanding officer of the law, they WILL press charges, despite weather or not the victim wants.
    If it's young lads though, you're better off taking matter into your own hands.
    For example if you were battered by a group of lads in town, someone will probably know them. Track them down and confront the ring leader on their own. Let testosterone take over, and even if you're not the fighting type, you will get a sense of uncontrollable rage. You know the type of thing where you try to punch a wall ect.
    Not very law abiding now but it will have a better affect.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Just so you know....a woman hit my car gave a real name, false address and false number to me, my cousin is a gardai, and had all her details within two hrs, including her employer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    OP, if you refuse to give your details they might reckon you're an IRA head and then the Superintendent is asking questions about you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    hondasam wrote: »
    You cannot get away with it, if you are arrested to confirm your identity then that is what they will do, every address you give they will contact the local gardai to find out if they know you and get them to call to the address to check it out.
    The more suspicious you make them the longer they will hold you. Why do you think it's this easy to give a false name?
    You will have to convince them you are who you say you are.
    RMD wrote: »
    They wont let you go anywhere until they're 100% sure of your identity and address details. That's assuming they arrest you as the victim decides to press charges. If the victim doesn't press charges you'll quite likely be let go or worst case scenario given a ticket for Drunk & Disorderly / Affray.

    Okay, say I say my name is Philip John Murphy but my friends call me John, the Garda writes out the charge as John Murphy, say I'm actually called Phil by everyone I know, even as it's recorded as John or Phil Murphy my passport still might say Philip Murphy, it wouldn't be an exact match on the name anywhere, it's not like you're going to 'remember' your PPS number.
    Like I said, if this happened it would be in Galway, I'm from Waterford, even if the Garda physically drove all the way there I can easily go to any of my friends houses there, quite simply, the Garda calls to this house and says 'does Mr. Murphy live here', person your friends with says 'Yes', they release you from their custody because they have '100% established' who you are and where you live.
    A few weeks or months later a Garda calls with a summons, whoever answers at that address says he doesn't live here anymore, Garda says where's he gone, person that answers the door says 'I don't know.'
    Henceforth I've just gotten away with breaking someones nose and will in all likelihood never get caught for it, that's my point.


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