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"You'd sacrifice this beautiful woman for a moderately attractive ape?"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah of course some cultures are messed up and worse than others - like the Congo and Afghanistan. Nothing nazi-ish/fascist about that sentiment IMO. The worst aspects of these societies are ones created via fear, repression, brutality, ignorance... It doesn't mean Wibbs thinks every individual within such cultures is to blame - my own take is that the majority are the ones who have to suffer the most, and also don't know much better due to lack of education.

    What she (he?) said was "Then again I am a Nazi who feels some cultures and individuals are better than others and a minority of people are complete and utter wastes of oxygen."

    If either of you honestly believes tht this story is representative of the Indonesian people as a whole (a country of 240 million people) then you both need to educate yourself more.

    I would argue that they are no more messed up than a country that allowed its most vunerable children be sentence to years of abuse by the State and the States religion.

    Wibbs is normally a pretty good poster so I am surprised and disappointed at these posts.


  • Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Listen, when I saw this thread, I knew it'd lead straight to Nazi talk.

    Just accept it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    If either of you honestly believes tht this story is representative of the Indonesian people as a whole (a country of 240 million people)
    Of course not. Thought that had been made clear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Ah, you would like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    What.


    the.


    actual.



    F**K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Dudess wrote: »
    Of course not. Thought that had been made clear.

    Where has this been made clear?

    Wibbs made statements about the inferiority of some cultures over others and said that s(he) would not be sad to see them eradicated. Maybe we could get a list of the superior cultures and the untermenschen just so we know where we stand in the greater scheme of things.

    Yes this is a disgusting story but things just as disgusting have happened in Ireland to children and animals (thinking specifically of a Donegal sheep case in the 80's).


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,505 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Why do you like riding Fat Hippos?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Where has this been made clear?

    Wibbs made statements about the inferiority of some cultures over others and said that s(he) would not be sad to see them eradicated. Maybe we could get a list of the superior cultures and the untermenschen just so we know where we stand in the greater scheme of things.

    Yes this is a disgusting story but things just as disgusting have happened in Ireland to children and animals (thinking specifically of a Donegal sheep case in the 80's).

    Many 'cultures' can exist in any given society. The ape-rapists of Indonesia obviously don't represent the people of Indonesia overall.. they represent the culture of raping apes that some Indonesians evidently practice. That was my take on what Wibbs meant by 'cultures' at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    I'm wondering what the women looked like, seeing as they chose to have sex with the orangutan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    Am I alone in thinking 'I would definitely hit that sh1t'?*













    *obviously I'm not or they wouldn't have needed so many fúckin' AKs to steal her for theirselves

    P.S Reading the FB comments beneath the article. lol@ PONY 2012!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    aujopimur wrote: »
    I'm wondering what the women looked like, seeing as they chose to have sex with the orangutan.

    I'm not, I'm really not. Fúck, now I am.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Oh right, fascist make you feel better? And yea these days it kinda is a catchall for various fascist philosophies of the time and since.
    I think the term could be "realist", depending on who you're talking to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Many 'cultures' can exist in any given society. The ape-rapists of Indonesia obviously don't represent the people of Indonesia overall.. they represent the culture of raping apes that some Indonesians evidently practice. That was my take on what Wibbs meant by 'cultures' at least.

    No Wibbs stated that they are a Nazi and a Fascist. I don't think you need to be a Nazi and a fascist to disagree with the story in the original post.

    Take Ireland as a culture. Up to the 70's we pretty much allowed the govt and church do what they want with the subsequent revelations of abuse we have seen in the last few years. This was facilitated by MOST of the population despite what some say now. By Wibbs rational Ireland would be one of these lesser cultures that if we were wiped out would not be any tragedy.

    TBH I am shocked at the amount of thumbs up and messages of support someone who states "I am a Nazi" is getting! I had hoped we had moved on a bit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    TBH I am shocked at the amount of thumbs up and messages of support someone who states "I am a Nazi" is getting! I had hoped we had moved on a bit



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    By Wibbs rational Ireland would be one of these lesser cultures that if we were wiped out would not be any tragedy.
    Yes you're spot on to say it was facilitated by most... hell I'd go further and say the vast majority facilitated it and for me we were a lesser culture because of crap like that. A land where Father Ted was more a documentary than a comedy, with moving statues and kissing the ring of Bishops, in all senses of the description. That aspect of that lesser culture has been wiped out and consigned to the history books and I'm glad to see the back of it and yes I'd have been well glad if the perpetrators of those crimes were strung up by the ghoulies, but more measured types imprisoned some of them, but not nearly enough of them IMHO.

    If an aspect of a culture reckons whore villages(WTF?) and shagging shaved higher primates is an OK thing to the degree they can amass enough support to drive off attempts to stop that sorta thing then yes they've hit a tipping point of being a lesser culture and bloody barbarians.

    BTW sub cultures can exist within larger cultures you know? Sometimes the subculture is effing barbaric and rank with the balance sheet of worth tipping the wrong end of the scale and sometimes(though less so) the larger cultures the one with the problem.

    And yes I would hold that some humans are irretrievable wastes of oxygen.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    No Wibbs stated that they are a Nazi and a Fascist. I don't think you need to be a Nazi and a fascist to disagree with the story in the original post.

    Take Ireland as a culture. Up to the 70's we pretty much allowed the govt and church do what they want with the subsequent revelations of abuse we have seen in the last few years. This was facilitated by MOST of the population despite what some say now. By Wibbs rational Ireland would be one of these lesser cultures that if we were wiped out would not be any tragedy.

    TBH I am shocked at the amount of thumbs up and messages of support someone who states "I am a Nazi" is getting! I had hoped we had moved on a bit

    I'd just wait until you get confirmation from Wibbs as to what he was talking about tbh.

    Here is my take on it, this is AH. Anyone who isn't grossly lovey-dovey and embracing absolutely everyone will be called a Nazi/Fascist by someone. Anyone who is even remotely forgiving of certain social tenants will be called a leftwing do-gooder/bleeding heart/card carrying member of the pc-brigade by someone else.

    My money is on Wibbs making fun of both himself and the AH tendancy of a small but vocal minority of posters to always push towards the extremes.

    I'm just gonna pop you in "takes post really literally" pile, unless I am wrong.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Wibbs made statements about the inferiority of some cultures over others and said that s(he) would not be sad to see them eradicated.
    Yep I wouldn't, but just to be clear lest this is up for debate that doesn't mean I'm designing my own uniforms and sending in stormtroopers. Eradication can take many forms. Education and removal of the main muppets that may be driving such behavior to name but two.
    Here is my take on it, this is AH. Anyone who isn't grossly lovey-dovey and embracing absolutely everyone will be called a Nazi/Fascist by someone. Anyone who is even remotely forgiving of certain social tenants will be called a leftwing do-gooder/bleeding heart/card carrying member of the pc-brigade by someone else.
    Fcuk! I'm that transparent? :D Good to see some still think I've the female persuasion too. Nice to keep em guessing...

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    Depressing that such savagery still exists in the world. Caesar and his band of genetically modified ape-warriors would sort them boys out. I wonder are there any revolution-backing dictators out there that would arm them? Gaddaffi might have done if he was still around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yep I wouldn't, but just to be clear lest this is up for debate that doesn't mean I'm designing my own uniforms and sending in stormtroopers

    Good. You're no Hugo Boss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Oh right, fascist make you feel better? And yea these days it kinda is a catchall for various fascist philosophies of the time and since.

    No, it really isn't.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah of course some cultures are messed up and worse than others - like the Congo and Afghanistan. Nothing nazi-ish/fascist about that sentiment IMO.

    Er, those terms came straight from Wibbs, no-one else.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sea Filly wrote: »
    No, it really isn't.
    Oh yes it is. Oh no it isn't. Oh yes it is. We can pantomime this for a while if you like. Look behind you!!!. It's the Nazis *boo hiss* :D

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'm just gonna pop you in "takes post really literally" pile, unless I am wrong.
    .

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Oh yes it is. Oh no it isn't. Oh yes it is. We can pantomime this for a while if you like. Look behind you!!!. It's the Nazis *boo hiss* :D

    Well, nice to see you find yourself hilarious anyway.

    The term is a specific one, but if you don't want to see that, I can't make you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    TBH I am shocked at the amount of thumbs up and messages of support someone who states "I am a Nazi" is getting! I had hoped we had moved on a bit

    Pretty much. It's interesting. And telling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    Last I checked this thread was about sexy chimps, not herr wibbs the super nazi!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Sea Filly wrote: »
    Pretty much.

    Are you reading through the thread, replying to bits as you come to them?

    Would it not make more sense to read the whole thread, as conversations evolve, or at least use multi quote?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yes you're spot on to say it was facilitated by most... hell I'd go further and say the vast majority facilitated it and for me we were a lesser culture because of crap like that. A land where Father Ted was more a documentary than a comedy, with moving statues and kissing the ring of Bishops, in all senses of the description. That aspect of that lesser culture has been wiped out and consigned to the history books and I'm glad to see the back of it and yes I'd have been well glad if the perpetrators of those crimes were strung up by the ghoulies, but more measured types imprisoned some of them, but not nearly enough of them IMHO.
    .

    So tell me. Who are the superior cultures you speak of? The majority of the Euro countries and Americas proved they were animals during the Colonial period. The Russians proved it during the Gulag years, the Chinese aren't currently covering themselves in glory, Indian caste system etc etc.
    Most people are maliable and adopt whatever culture they are born into ie people are people for all that they are good or bad.
    Whether you think you are being clever or actually are a Nazi is irrelevant as you are spreading a hateful message


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    Are you reading through the thread, replying to bits as you come to them?

    Would it not make more sense to read the whole thread, as conversations evolve, or at least use multi quote?

    I've read the whole thread. But thanks anyway, sure what would I do without you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Last I checked this thread was about sexy chimps, not herr wibbs the super nazi!

    I heard Wibbs is actually the brain of Himmler in a robot body.


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