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Man feeds live kitten to Burmese Python

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    Posted last year:

    Medal on it's way to El Horseboxo!
    :D

    attached for your pleasure. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    vibe666 wrote: »
    maybe he only enticed that guy into his apartment and killed him, mutilated, dismembered and raped his corpse because the guy had misquoted him on the internet?

    If you have a problem with him killing a guy, cutting off his arms legs and head, shagging the torso, cutting chunks out of the body and eating them, ramming a bottle up the arse of the torso, wánking himself off with the dismembered arm, filming all this and uploading it on the net and mailing the body parts around the country, but think it's ok to eat a cheese burger in mcdonalds, you're a hypocrite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    If you have a problem with him killing a guy, cutting off his arms legs and head, shagging the torso, cutting chunks out of the body and eating them, ramming a bottle up the arse of the torso, wánking himself off with the dismembered arm, filming all this and uploading it on the net and mailing the body parts around the country, but think it's ok to eat a cheese burger in mcdonalds, you're a hypocrite.
    ah but sure aren't we ALL hypocrites. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    If you have a problem with him killing a guy, cutting off his arms legs and head, shagging the torso, cutting chunks out of the body and eating them, ramming a bottle up the arse of the torso, wánking himself off with the dismembered arm, filming all this and uploading it on the net and mailing the body parts around the country, but think it's ok to eat a cheese burger in mcdonalds, you're a hypocrite.

    Slight difference between eating a cheeseburger and commiting a psycho act! I have heard it all now! Obviously you think that a non vegetarian is on the same level as the nut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Regardless of whether the guy killed someone is irrelevant. I revived this by calling many of the posters hypocrites in light of their posts. They abhorred the man's actions, as he took pleasure in seeing a kitten suffer. Perfectly reasonable. My problem, as I am explaining now the third or fourth time, is the fact that their discomfort is only evident when a kitten is involved. In my eyes this is hypocrisy (as I've already explained).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    cruais wrote: »
    Paparazzo wrote: »
    If you have a problem with him killing a guy, cutting off his arms legs and head, shagging the torso, cutting chunks out of the body and eating them, ramming a bottle up the arse of the torso, wánking himself off with the dismembered arm, filming all this and uploading it on the net and mailing the body parts around the country, but think it's ok to eat a cheese burger in mcdonalds, you're a hypocrite.

    Slight difference between eating a cheeseburger and commiting a psycho act! I have heard it all now! Obviously you think that a non vegetarian is on the same level as the nut
    Well, in a sense, that's what we've been discussing. I don't think it's hypocrisy. It depends upon one's reasoning behind the matter. It is hypocrisy if my reasoning is "sure it's only an animal" (as posters have applied to the rat, but not the kitten - my original problem).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Rule zero: dont't **** with cats, we'll get you.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Gumbi wrote: »
    Regardless of whether the guy killed someone is irrelevant. I revived this by calling many of the posters hypocrites in light of their posts. They abhorred the man's actions, as he took pleasure in seeing a kitten suffer. Perfectly reasonable. My problem, as I am explaining now the third or fourth time, is the fact that their discomfort is only evident when a kitten is involved. In my eyes this is hypocrisy (as I've already explained).
    So in short, you think that people shouldn't like kittens?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Gumbi wrote: »
    Well, in a sense, that's what we've been discussing. I don't think it's hypocrisy. It depends upon one's reasoning behind the matter. It is hypocrisy if my reasoning is "sure it's only an animal" (as posters have applies to the rat, but not the kitten - my original problem).

    We know what you're saying, it's just bollocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    stevenmu wrote: »
    So in short, you think that people shouldn't like kittens?

    In no way, shape, or form, does that resemble the conclusion of my say so far. Why would you ask that question?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    We know what you're saying, it's just bollocks.

    Hmmm, I don't think you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    i actually think it's a valid point, but before i go any further, i'd like to point out that i'm an animal lover, i've got 2 cats now that i love dearly and i've grown up with cats and dogs as well as plenty of other animals my whole life and i'd never feed any pet to any other pet.

    i've also got 2 aquariums and whenever any fish have died, my wife keeps telling me to just feed the dead fish to our cats, but i wouldn't even do that.

    if i ever saw someone feeding a kitten to a snake i'd take great pleasure in beating them to a bloody pulp for it, yet i wouldn't feel the same about a rat. fair enough if the same scenario had played out with him videoing a rat instead of a kitten being fed to his snake, i know i wouldn't feel the same revulsion as i do at the idea of it happening to a kitten and in all likelyhood i wouldn't be all that bothered at all, other than still thinking he was a bit of a freak, but why is that?

    plenty of people keep rats as pets, and mice and stick insects and spiders and lizards and all sorts of things that i'm sure they care deeply about and many of them feed live insects to their pets which can be freely bought in pet shops specifically for the purpose so why do we feel so different about kittens?

    what are the criteria that we base the value of a specific life on and why is it that the life of a cute kitten is worth more than a rat?

    don't get me wrong, i'm not a vegetarian by any means, in fact i've killed and eaten fish, rabbits and pheasants in the past growing up and i LOVE meat and would never give it up. i'm never happier with food than I am with a big piece of animal meat on my plate and anything else is just there for decoration as far as i'm concerned.

    so why do we feel so much revulsion at a kitten being fed to a snake versus a rat? is it purely cuteness related, or because of our (at least some of us) close relationship with cats? it's not size related because nobody cares overly much about all the dead badgers you see at the side of the road and they're bigger than a cat.

    i've actually found since moving to ireland about 12 years ago that a lot of irish people seem to be in general much less likely to be cat lovers than in the UK and a lot of people (at least in the country) would only keep cats as outside pets if at all, to the point where they seem to find us (myself and my wife) weird for keeping cats inside.

    so does anyone have a proper rational argument to support our intense feelings towards the death of a kitten versus that of a rat under the same circumstances?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    vibe666 wrote: »
    i actually think it's a valid point, but before i go any further, i'd like to point out that i'm an animal lover, i've got 2 cats now that i love dearly and i've grown up with cats and dogs as well as plenty of other animals my whole life and i'd never feed any pet to any other pet.

    i've also got 2 aquariums and whenever any fish have died, my wife keeps telling me to just feed the dead fish to our cats, but i wouldn't even do that.

    if i ever saw someone feeding a kitten to a snake i'd take great pleasure in beating them to a bloody pulp for it, yet i wouldn't feel the same about a rat. fair enough if the same scenario had played out with him videoing a rat instead of a kitten being fed to his snake, i know i wouldn't feel the same revulsion as i do at the idea of it happening to a kitten and in all likelyhood i wouldn't be all that bothered at all, other than still thinking he was a bit of a freak, but why is that?

    plenty of people keep rats as pets, and mice and stick insects and spiders and lizards and all sorts of things that i'm sure they care deeply about and many of them feed live insects to their pets which can be freely bought in pet shops specifically for the purpose so why do we feel so different about kittens?

    what are the criteria that we base the value of a specific life on and why is it that the life of a cute kitten is worth more than a rat?

    don't get me wrong, i'm not a vegetarian by any means, in fact i've killed and eaten fish, rabbits and pheasants in the past growing up and i LOVE meat and would never give it up. i'm never happier with food than I am with a big piece of animal meat on my plate and anything else is just there for decoration as far as i'm concerned.

    so why do we feel so much revulsion at a kitten being fed to a snake versus a rat? is it purely cuteness related, or because of our (at least some of us) close relationship with cats? it's not size related because nobody cares overly much about all the dead badgers you see at the side of the road and they're bigger than a cat.

    i've actually found since moving to ireland about 12 years ago that a lot of irish people seem to be in general much less likely to be cat lovers than in the UK and a lot of people (at least in the country) would only keep cats as outside pets if at all, to the point where they seem to find us (myself and my wife) weird for keeping cats inside.

    so does anyone have a proper rational argument to support our intense feelings towards the death of a kitten versus that of a rat under the same circumstances?
    I haven't heard of any I find acceptable. In any case, I find it morally inconsistent and hypocritical to do so, upon which I've elaborated above.

    Why, though, are kittens considered more "valuable" in such a situation by society in general? It could be a variety of reasons. Humans have a closer relationship to cats in general. Kittens are cute, and this is an ideal that society finds attractive.

    Btw, what do you find to be a valid point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    We know what you're saying, it's just bollocks.

    @ Gumbi - How about an Amoeba wearing a teeny weeny kitten collar?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Raiser wrote: »
    Paparazzo wrote: »
    We know what you're saying, it's just bollocks.

    @ Gumbi - How about an Amoeba wearing a teeny weeny kitten collar?
    In what context?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Gumbi wrote: »
    Why, though, are kittens considered more "valuable" in such a situation by society in general?
    Same reason the committee for the protection of the Australian Blobfish never took off, and women like jewels. Pretty! You may as well be asking why art sells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Gumbi wrote: »
    In what context?

    Whoa - No way, you aint going to reel me in and make me an accessory to your odd ideologically illogical, semantically arcane, pseudo-philosophical, dissect the minutiae odyssey.......

    - You've far too much access to a keyboard TBH :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭FullRetard


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    We know what you're saying, it's just bollocks.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭cartell_best


    The first I heard about this was today in a tabloid and when I saw that kitten being choked by that python I couldn't believe it. WTF like! Thank God I don't have the mind set to even comprehend what that freak of nature was thinking of to do that. To read the entire article as to his suspected activities goes way way beyond disbelief. But one thing is, not just the tabloids state his gay/bisexual history!

    When have we EVER read or saw an article where "a straight man raped and killed"?? or do people just take it for granted. At this stage in my life I'm like WTF. The sicko did something most people couldn't even entertain in their worst nightmares and then all the publicity surrounded the freaks activities are labelled. Castration and the death penalty is too good for inherently evil people like that but why the added media attention of emphasising "gay/bisexuality"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Raiser wrote: »
    Gumbi wrote: »
    In what context?

    Whoa - No way, you aint going to reel me in and make me an accessory to your odd ideologically illogical, semantically arcane, pseudo-philosophical, dissect the minutiae odyssey.......

    - You've far too much access to a keyboard TBH :D
    How, then, do you expect me to answer the question?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Gumbi wrote: »
    Why, though, are kittens considered more "valuable" in such a situation by society in general?
    Same reason the committee for the protection of the Australian Blobfish never took off, and women like jewels. Pretty! You may as well be asking why art sells.
    I made that point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Raiser wrote: »
    Gumbi wrote: »
    In what context?

    Whoa - No way, you aint going to reel me in and make me an accessory to your odd ideologically illogical, semantically arcane, pseudo-philosophical, dissect the minutiae odyssey.......

    - You've far too much access to a keyboard TBH :D
    Care to elaborate upon those statements?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Kitten's life > Human's life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Kitten's life > Human's life.
    What makes you think that? Why do you believe that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    His mother should have got an abortion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭puzzle factory


    what a waste of a kitten, you could fit bosco (enda kenny) in to a Burmese Python with a squeeze


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    His mother should have got an abortion.
    Is that directed at me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭UnknownSpecies


    EDIT: I'm not with the times at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Gumbi wrote: »
    What makes you think that? Why do you believe that?

    Because the thread seems more focused on the value of a kitten's life over a man who was murdered , chopped up, his corpse played around with and then the footage uploaded to the web which has resulted in the international manhunt of the killer.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Hope when they find this sicko he resists arrest and they blow him away.

    Otherwise he's just going to end up some cushy Canadian prison where he'll actually like getting buggered up the hole.


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