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Murder trial in Mauritius

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,328 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    It's still totally irrelevant to the case at hand, and doesn't tie in with the other prosecution evidence and prosecution witness statements.

    Slight fyp.
    Defence coming up with an alternate theory and putting it to the jury is a valid tactic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    snubbleste wrote: »
    I'm sure boards.maur had similar threads in relation to our court cases such as the C case or X case or various laughable tribunals.

    I can't get over the amount of attention this case is getting. Sure there was an Irishman murdered in Boston last year, no President attended his funeral nor was he related to a GAA manager.

    Uh-oh. Hipster alert.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    http://theindependent.mu/2012/05/25/bathtub-disappeared-during-reconstruction/

    Note the reader comment! John Morrissey doesn't sound like a very Mautitian name to me. More like someone from the Six Counties who has a thing about Nationalists and the GAA. :confused:
    Jesus H Christ, is there anything these noddies can't turn into a racial hatefest. Belfast must have gotten high speed broadband lately or something. Of all the threads I didn't expect to run across their pudgy pink pawprints this was it, and yet here we are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭fran17


    whole thing seems to be decending into a farce,a real kangaroo court.defence tactic is to muddy the waters so much that nothing is clear anymore.anyone know what % of the jury needed for a conviction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Slight fyp.
    Defence coming up with an alternate theory and putting it to the jury is a valid tactic.

    But they haven't really put forward an alternative theory to what happened. All they've done is blacken the husbands name by mentioning the book. As far as I'm aware there had been absolutely no suggestion or evidence that the killing may have been sexually motivated. They were a young couple on honeymoon after all, having a sex guide doesn't even seem to be all that out of the ordinary.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,328 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    But they haven't really put forward an alternative theory to what happened. All they've done is blacken the husbands name by mentioning the book. As far as I'm aware there had been absolutely no suggestion or evidence that the killing may have been sexually motivated. They were a young couple on honeymoon after all, having a sex guide doesn't even seem to be all that out of the ordinary.

    Well its the prosecutions evidence at the moment, so theres a limit to what the defence can do to build this theory, other than sow a few seeds.
    When its the defences turn then they can fully put it forward.

    ****
    It seems that it is ran on similar grounds to a UK/Ire trial. i.e.,
    Prosecution witnesses followed by defence cross, prosecution rests. Then defence witnesses followed by prosecution cross, defence rests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    It's still totally irrelevant to the case at hand, and doesn't tie in with the other evidence and witness statements. What if they found a DVD of Hostel or some other movie like that? Would they also try using that in their defense?

    Possibly.

    When this beauty was up for the murder of Milly Dowler, his defence tried to lay suspicion on her father, using his stash of bondage porn to imply he was "dodgy".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi_Bellfield


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 449 ✭✭Pantsface


    It's still totally irrelevant to the case at hand, and doesn't tie in with the other evidence and witness statements. What if they found a DVD of Hostel or some other movie like that? Would they also try using that in their defense?


    :eek:

    *shudders*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭Icepick


    suzzi wrote: »
    The poverty on those islands is unreal. I spent a month in a hotel years ago on one of those "dream paradises" and by the time I left I was sick with what was the norm. The waste every day, the searching of the employees every morning and evening in and out of the place, the wages they got (compared to what you were paying!) was just awful. Never again could I go there and see how a guy had to run after you to rake the beach to make it look pristine and get a couple of dollars a week.....Oh God, it was just wrong. I know they need the money and have a job but the exploitation of the whole scenario was awful.
    So your solution is not to go there so that he gets nothing?
    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Winston Payne


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    I know it's after hours


    And that's where your post should have stopped.



    The state of this thread. Jesus Christ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    http://theindependent.mu/2012/05/25/bathtub-disappeared-during-reconstruction/

    Note the reader comment! John Morrissey doesn't sound like a very Mautitian name to me. More like someone from the Six Counties who has a thing about Nationalists and the GAA. :confused:

    but who's to say he is a nordie??? just because he made a snide remark about the GAA you automatically assume he's a nordie :rolleyes:

    don't jump to conclusions love

    anyway john morrissey sounds like an irish nationalist name if anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Show Time wrote: »
    Visiting a place like Mauritius would not top my to do list as you are dealing with savage backward locals who would stuff you in the dinner pot as fast as they would smile at you.

    Having worked in an industry that has an awful lot of Mauritian lads in it, I can say that you are talking through your hoop.

    Very hospitable folk, would do anything for you and excellent workers. The media claim that foreign nationals are better workers than the Irish, but the only two nationalities it rings true for, are the Mauritians and Chinese.

    In short, a great bunch of lads and I regret turning down the opportunity to go to a pals wedding there.

    If random barbaric acts of violence put everyone off visiting Ireland, we would have very few tourists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    fryup wrote: »

    anyway john morrissey sounds like an irish nationalist name if anything

    Sweet Jesus. Are people actually scouring the comments on online articles to score petty points against themuns?

    Does it matter a bollix?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    Regarding the sex book: were they not both staunch Christians & didn't believe in sex before marriage? I could swear I heard or read that somewhere. Which could explain the book. Newly married couple, looking to enjoy their honeymoon as much as they can. Doesn't really strike me as strange, in fact I think it's quite romantic & sweet.
    Anyway, whether that is true or not my heart goes out to her husband & family. It's not enough that she was murdered but now every little bit of their lives are being laid bare for the world to pick through. Not an easy time for them considering they are still grieving for her.
    It's really hard to believe what has happened.
    My heart really goes out to her family & friends. It must be horrific.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Sweet Jesus. Are people actually scouring the comments on online articles to score petty points against themuns?

    Does it matter a bollix?:confused:

    not me.. i'm just responding to ellis dee's post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Regarding the sex book: were they not both staunch Christians & didn't believe in sex before marriage? I could swear I heard or read that somewhere.

    She was a pioneer and took that group in school. Not sure about the abstinence part but its likely. It could even have been a kamasutra book you get on holiday resorts. Either way it was totally irrelevant and I hope their justice system can tighten up and deal with this behaviour accordingly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Having worked in an industry that has an awful lot of Mauritian lads in it, I can say that you are talking through your hoop.

    Very hospitable folk, would do anything for you and excellent workers. The media claim that foreign nationals are better workers than the Irish, but the only two nationalities it rings true for, are the Mauritians and Chinese.

    In short, a great bunch of lads and I regret turning down the opportunity to go to a pals wedding there.

    If random barbaric acts of violence put everyone off visiting Ireland, we would have very few tourists.
    Fair enough but i still would not fancy checking the place out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Show Time wrote: »
    Fair enough but i still would not fancy checking the place out.

    In fairness it is a beautiful country with a lovely race of people, I was there on holidays for 3 weeks in 06. I wouldn't let this unfortunate occurrence put you off visiting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    Interesting article on the case to date by the BBC here
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18225404

    It says a lot of local Mauritians are shocked by the murder but also hope that it won't be a Maurtianian found guilty of the crime for fear of them all being labelled as a result. They are quite conciouse that a large part of their national income is reliant on tourism.

    Instead some of them speculate that two Irish people committed the murder and then ran off out of the hotel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Chain_reaction


    RATM wrote: »
    Interesting article on the case to date by the BBC here
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18225404

    It says a lot of local Mauritians are shocked by the murder by hope that it won't be a Maurtianian found guilty of the crime for fear of them all being labelled as a result. Instead some of them speculate that two Irish people committed the murder and then ran off into the night.


    I worked with two Mauritians around the time it took place.


    They were horrified by the whole thing, attacks on tourists are very rare and they were afraid the whole country would be tarred with the same brush.


    Both of then were unnaturally kind and friendly too so I'd really hate to see anyone thinking ill of their beautiful country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    A booklet relating to sexual matters in Michaela McAreavey's hotel room was an insert from a women's magazine.
    News now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    There's nothing tawdry about a couple having a sex book in their bedroom, and its no one else's business.

    What worries me is that the whole investigation was so inept that the justice meted out at the end of this trial, if any, might forever be thought of as unreliable.

    Michaela deserves her killer(s) to be brought to justice and for that to be a confident conclusion to the ordeal her family have gone through since. It would be a tragedy for everyone if that didn't happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Giselle wrote: »
    There's nothing tawdry about a couple having a sex book in their bedroom, and its no one else's business.

    It's no one else's business until one of the people is murdered, then it becomes everyone's business.
    Would it not be obvious to everyone that their private life was going to be scrutinised, it is a murder case after all.
    Why bother having a trial at all if these men are guilty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 sawakatoome


    Wasn't there something in the news today about a European forensics expert who could find no genetic evidence from the accused on either Michaela or anywhere in the room?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 sawakatoome


    The exact circumstances of Michaela's death (be it murder or 'mis-adventure') needs to be ascertained before blame can be assigned. Of course, its human nature to speculate .. but I reckon the truth will eventually emerge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Wasn't there something in the news today about a European forensics expert who could find no genetic evidence from the accused on either Michaela or anywhere in the room?
    Link?
    The exact circumstances of Michaela's death (be it murder or 'mis-adventure') needs to be ascertained before blame can be assigned. Of course, its human nature to speculate .. but I reckon the truth will eventually emerge.
    Uh, isn't that the point of the trial?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Johnny Bitte


    seamus wrote: »
    Link?

    Link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    The whole thing is a farce. The Mauritian judicial system has never dealt with something as big as this before, and it shows. The defence team is an absolute joke, it's not clear if the two suspects actually did it, and the media covering the case are treating it like a TV show rather than real life. I honestly think these people just watched some court room drama and now think that that is what real life is. I feel terribly sorry for the girl's family to have to sit through this and have everyone treat it like entertainment.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    scholar007 wrote: »
    It can't be taught, the fact that you couldn't even comprehend the ****ing idea suggests you're not ready. I dunno where you got the money for a waterproof keyboard tbh.


    Someone donated the computer to me. R u like an entrepreneur or millionaire that needs 2 mobiles? Can you really access the internet via a mobile?

    Do you have special needs?

    Honestly, you're spouting some shîte on a thread that isn't a place for piss taking or idiotic questions.


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