At least 63 children alone murdered in the last two days!

What exactly should the 'world' do? Send a load of weapons for them to use against the oppressors, and then once it's over have many different factions armed to the teeth and vying for power themselves?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There are thousands of unborn babies murdered in abortion clinics through out the northern hemisphere every day and no one seems to bat an eye lid until something like this comes up.

Ah here.. I'm off for a walk!

I'd wait before coming to any conclusions, both sides have been well documented as repeatedly lying and exaggerating claims of deaths, the opposition is no more credible than the regime.

This is not an opinion solely held by me, the american intelligence organisation Stratfor seems to believe the same. They claimed

“most of the opposition's more serious claims have turned out to be grossly exaggerated or simply untrue, thereby revealing more about the opposition's weaknesses than the level of instability inside the Syrian regime.”

Just as claims of massacres in Homs were proven untrue (the city was largely empty of civilians by the time major fighting begun), I would wait before crying massacre here too. Anyone who thinks this a simple case of a mad dictator going on a senseless rampage against innocent civilians is naive. The truth is far more complicated than that.

And one more thing, I didn't see any threads about the dozens of civilians killing by the bombings carried out by the opposition, odd that.

Link for the above, it's a good read.

EDIT: Some more to add from a similar article based on the stratfor leaks

Stratfor's investigation, however, found "no signs of a massacre," and warns that "opposition forces have an interest in portraying an impending massacre, hoping to mimic the conditions that propelled a foreign military intervention in Libya."

mikom wrote: »

Proper order too......

To quote an old Chinese proverb..."stop having so many f**cking babies or the country will sink....literally"

Sure 1000s die in Africa everyday and noone really gives a f*ck. That's people for you.

If you bothered to read the exact detail of what I posted in the very first post you would have seen:

...So before anyone says that it might just be the fighting opposition making up these numbers, they might need to look again.

Your the one who seems to be confused, the SOHR is publicly opposed to Assad, therefore they are in the opposition. The majority of their contacts on the ground are from groups like the FSA.

Forgive me for disagreeing but that above is a load of crap!
Even IF he had an excuse for sending in an army anywhere, shelling homes, killing wives and children - NOT fighters, is never excusable.
Be on the streets of Homs, on the streets of Manchester letting bombs off or on the streets of Northern Ireland - killing innocent adults and kids is disgusting - BY ANY SIDE.
Anyone that tries to justify such killing has their priorities totally wrong and sick in the head!

You honestly believe the army is directly targeting civilians? Really? What kind of practical sense does that make? My opinion is that people were more than likely killed as a result of crossfire and shelling of areas where attacks from the opposition originated from.
If you had bothered to read my link you would have seen the regime has been very careful to avoid incidents such as this to avoid international military intervention.

The risk analysis group argues that allegations of massacres against civilians were unlikely because the "regime has calibrated its crackdowns to avoid just such a scenario. Regime forces," Stratfor argues, "have been careful to avoid the high casualty numbers that could lead to an intervention based on humanitarian grounds."

And it makes sense, by attacking civ's they stand to gain exactly zero and potentially lose much much more.

And enough already of me trying to justify the killings, don't even go there, you know full well that's not my intention. I'm trying to gather what was the most likely reason for these deaths, and it isn't that one day Assad decided to order his men to kill close to a 100 hundred people for the craic.