Hell has no fury like a woman scorned!

dlofnep · 25-05-2012 12:21PM #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpUUOYRLW3k

Woman is shopping for nail polish in Saudi Arabia, when she is approached by religious police who want her to leave. Needless to say, she doesn't take any of their crap and wants her damn nail polish.

Crazy to think there are still countries that try to police stuff like this.

Zillah · 25-05-2012 12:46PM

Bet you a tenner she has friends in high places that she knows will crush them if they mess with her. She drops a name towards the end and while I have no idea who it is I bet he's a powerful figure for her to behave like that. Awesome none the less though.

The Mad Hatter · 25-05-2012 12:50PM

"You don't see other women here showing their hair."

ffs...

syklops · 25-05-2012 12:56PM

Zillah wrote: »

Bet you a tenner she has friends in high places that she knows will crush them if they mess with her. She drops a name towards the end and while I have no idea who it is.

He's a Saudi columnist and journalist. Sort of like an arabic Kevin Myers.

Fenian Army · 25-05-2012 01:04PM

syklops wrote: »

He's a Saudi columnist and journalist. Sort of like an arabic Kevin Myers.

Don't insult the poor man by saying he's like that cretin

MagicMarker · 25-05-2012 01:17PM

What date has been set for her beheading?

Galvasean · 25-05-2012 01:24PM

Interesting how the 'religious police' are full of bravado until the real police show up.

dlofnep · 25-05-2012 01:47PM

Did anyone read the news story a little while back, where these religious police stopped children from escaping a burning building, because they were not wearing their head scarves? 15 girls died as a result of it. (Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm)

25-05-2012 01:50PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Did anyone read the news story a little while back, where these religious police stopped children from escaping a burning building, because they were not wearing their head scarves? 15 girls died as a result of it. (Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm)

Wow. That's dreadfully upsetting.

Rev Hellfire · 25-05-2012 02:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wow. That's dreadfully upsetting.

But not wholly unsurprising.

dlofnep · 25-05-2012 02:11PM

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

But not wholly unsurprising.

Which is why it's even more upsetting

who the fug · 25-05-2012 02:17PM

Her husband or father is going be in the sh1t for that

Gbear · 25-05-2012 02:51PM

I'm confused. Why do shops sell nail polish if women aren't allowed to buy it?

Penn · 25-05-2012 02:57PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Did anyone read the news story a little while back, where these religious police stopped children from escaping a burning building, because they were not wearing their head scarves? 15 girls died as a result of it. (Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm)

I f*cking hate religion. I really, really do....

The Mad Hatter · 25-05-2012 03:00PM

Gbear wrote: »

I'm confused. Why do shops sell nail polish if women aren't allowed to buy it?

Maybe their husbands are allowed buy it for them?

robindch · 25-05-2012 04:41PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Woman is shopping for nail polish in Saudi Arabia, when she is approached by religious police who want her to leave. Needless to say, she doesn't take any of their crap and wants her damn nail polish.

Most likely, she's in a mall, the call to prayer has gone out and she's decided to stay shopping. The guys looks like the Mutawee, the Saudi religious police whose job it is to hoover up strays and force them into religious services. She's a brave woman -- the lads occasionally have sticks and clubs to help sway the theologically undecided or impure. They leave foreigners alone.

The guy mentioned at 1:56 is 'Abd al-'Aziz ibn 'Abd Allah ibn Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Lateef Aal ash-Shaikh (great name, btw), the current Grand Mufti.

Brown Bomber · 25-05-2012 08:27PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Did anyone read the news story a little while back,

Over 10 years ago you mean?

dlofnep wrote: »

where these religious police stopped children from escaping a burning building, because they were not wearing their head scarves? 15 girls died as a result of it. (Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm)

Whatever gave you that idea? Nowhere in your article does it say so. Can you support your claim?

Sonics2k · 25-05-2012 08:29PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Whatever gave you that idea? Nowhere in your article does it say so. Can you support your claim?

Except for this bit

In a rare criticism of the kingdom's powerful "mutaween" police, the Saudi media has accused them of hindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday.

Brown Bomber · 25-05-2012 08:41PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

Except for this bit

Reread the claim:

15 girls died as a result of it.

Then reread the section of the article that you've just quoted:

In a rare criticism of the kingdom's powerful "mutaween" police, the Saudi media has accused them of hindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday.

And see if you can spot the not at all subtle difference.

Sonics2k · 25-05-2012 08:44PM

It either means

1) 15 girls died as a result *of the fire*
or
2) 15 girls died as a result *due to the mutaween interfering*

Either one is accurate in the context of the article. Why are you looking to kick off?

Turtwig · 25-05-2012 08:49PM

**A Wild Brown Bomber has appeared**

The Mad Hatter · 25-05-2012 08:53PM

What BB is getting at is that they are merely "accused" of stopping the girls from fleeing the building and thus surviving the fire. Obviously, for legal reasons, the BBC can't say outright that their actions caused the girls' death until it's proved in court. That could be seen as perverting the course of justice, or as slander.

Come on, though, BB - if this case did actually go to court it'd be open and shut.

Brown Bomber · 25-05-2012 08:56PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

It either means

1) 15 girls died as a result *of the fire*
or
2) 15 girls died as a result *due to the mutaween interfering*

Either one is accurate in the context of the article. Why are you looking to kick off?

Neither is accurate according to the BBC article which is itself a second-hand account based on quotes attributed anonymously.

I'd direct you towards this section:

Most of the victims were crushed in a stampede as they tried to flee the blaze.

dlofnep · 25-05-2012 08:56PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Over 10 years ago you mean?

Well, I only came across it a few months back. Who cares? The event still occurred - that's all that matters, and not your pedantry for dates.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Whatever gave you that idea? Nowhere in your article does it say so. Can you support your claim?

Um - the opening paragraph.

Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.

I'm absolutely dumbfounded that you don't actually see a problem in a religious police force stopping schoolgirls from leaving a burning building because they were not wearing a head covering, but rather take more of an issue with how I have presented the article.

Here are the facts - a Islamic religious police force stopped young girls from fleeing a burning building, because they were not wearing head dresses. 15 girls died.

Quote from witness

One witness said he saw three policemen "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya".

Now condemn this act and stop looking for ways to excuse it. Condemn this religious police force!

MagicMarker · 25-05-2012 09:02PM

dlofnep wrote: »

I'm absolutely dumbfounded that you don't actually see a problem in a religious police force stopping schoolgirls from leaving a burning building because they were not wearing a head covering, but rather take more of an issue with how I have presented the article.

I'm not...

Varied · 25-05-2012 09:06PM

If only all women in Saudi would stand up to these guys.

Brown Bomber · 25-05-2012 09:10PM

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

What BB is getting at is that they are merely "accused" of stopping the girls from fleeing the building and thus surviving the fire. Obviously, for legal reasons, the BBC can't say outright that their actions caused the girls' death until it's proved in court. That could be seen as perverting the course of justice, or as slander.

Come on, though, BB - if this case did actually go to court it'd be open and shut.

I take your point but it is only slander if it is untrue, the simple fact of the matter is that none of us here know exactly what happened. Recycled and poorly sourced articles on the BBC taken from Saudi media can't be trusted. Saudi media itself cannot be trusted therefore a little healthy scepticism is in order. I promise you I despise Islamic fascism and the House of Saud as much if not more than anyone else here but that doesn't mean that I will judge an event any different.

It appears the girls died as a result of overcrowding and lack of emergency preparedness not because some religous policeman put up a turnstyle in the exits.

Here is a later articlel from the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1893349.stm

dlofnep · 25-05-2012 09:13PM

Brown Bomber - you're still avoiding the issue. Girls were blocked from fleeing a burning building because they were not wearing the correct head dressing. Condemn this act. I'm waiting.

25-05-2012 09:15PM

fair play to yer wan for standing up to them, i'm impressed

and fair play to what look like security standing around yer man and refusing to let him at her

i dont think it could have been a prayer thing robin, there's some people in the background sitting around

Brown Bomber · 25-05-2012 09:15PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Um - the opening paragraph.

In the opening paragraph the BBC explains howa single newspaper from the "Saudi media" alleges that these guys tried to prevent schoolgirls from leaving the school. It at no point says that anyone died because of this. You are bridging that gap yourself.

dlofnep · 25-05-2012 09:16PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

In the opening paragraph the BBC explains howa single newspaper from the "Saudi media" alleges that these guys tried to prevent schoolgirls from leaving the school. It at no point says that anyone died because of this. You are bridging that gap yourself.

So do you condemn these religious police from stopping the girls from fleeing?

Hell has no fury like a woman scorned!

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