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Sinn Fein appealing to the lowest common denominator

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    Why has he been banned?
    Jean McConville was murdered by SF types.
    A lot of evidence to suggest that Adams ordered the murder.

    Hes a re-reg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Hes a re-reg.

    Do tell....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Fair play to you vote with the sheep.
    If Sinn Féin had good economic policies, and integrity, I would vote for them.
    They try to appeal to the unemployed and disaffected by criticising without proposing sensible alternatives.
    Name calling fits the Sinn Féin mentality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Aww, I was enjoying his posts. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,584 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    They've been a fairly socially liberal and pro-individual rights for a lot longer than any other political party in this country. You can't really accuse them of using that as a means to garner votes, when at the time of setting out those ideals, it would most likely have cost them votes.
    Dudess wrote: »
    Well they target macho lads who would have no time for gays, so it's a bit confusing...

    In what ways?

    I could link to a multitude of sources which completely destroy your assertion, but what's the point, you'll just turn it into a stick to have another go =p

    Off the top of my head, I can tell you that people of the LGBT community have actively taken part in, and successfully arranged fringe events as part of the annual SF Ard Fheis for the last number of years.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Why has he been banned?
    Jean McConville was murdered by SF types.
    A lot of evidence to suggest that Adams ordered the murder.

    Sinn Fein types?
    You should bring that evidence to your local Garda station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    smash wrote: »
    There are different levels of weak in society. There are genuinely weak people who are vulnerable, and who I think SF take advantage of as a result and that's why they target these areas. Then there are the less educated and SF target them too by telling them they are vulnerable and start talking about taxing people who are better off than them. Then with the lower class areas they canvas, comes a higher percentage of bad apples and SF target them by mentioning stuff like 1916 to appeal to their fighting nature.

    It might not be your opinion but it's mine and I know a lot of people share it.
    ...............

    You might have been better titling your thread "My Fear Of The Working Class" .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭iamthe43


    Look folks, at the end of the day Sinn Fein are a bunch of ****ing idiots, as are Fine Fail and Fine Gael.

    But, back to the OP, SF are a very sly and devious party. WTF do they know about running the fiscal policy of Ireland? Lets read from their economic policy and find out shall we?


    "We can build a country and an economy that creates wealth(from nowhere) and shares wealth, that is based on enterprising excellence and social solidarity. A country defined by Irish values of decency, fair play and celebration of achievement.(dont forget dancing at crossroads)


    We can do this because that is who we are(so dont usk any questions, just trust us). That is what we are about, that is what our economy must be about. We need a plan to achieve this. We need leadership and Sinn Féin can offer it. Read on to find out how...



    The government cannot simply tax or cut its way out of this crisis.


    Our number one priority at this time is to get Ireland back to work. The time for action is now.Targets for job creation must be set and met.


    All of those involved in job creation and training – statutory agencies, unions, employers and educationalists - must come together to plot the job creation pathway. We need speedy and deliberate targeting of those sectors where growth is possible – sectors like agri-food, research and development and green technology.


    We need to build the skill base to create and fill new jobs(isnt there somebody already responsible for this? FAS??? Oh no, my mistake). We need to build the critical infrastructure, schools and houses, public transport and Information Technology. (and pay for them with what? Air? Magic?)



    Business start ups must be supported by creating one stop enterprise business points offering advice, funding and expertise to entrepreneurs. (already there im afraid)

    An aggressive export Ireland strategy is urgently required. This is an area of huge potential. Currently 90% of exports from this state are from foreign owned multinationals. Irish enterprises must develop their export capacity. Government policy must drive this.


    We must fight to save existing jobs under threat. Workers and their families deserve no less. Economic recovery demands no less.


    Jobs can be saved. The jobs on the line at SR Technics can be saved. Jobs in construction and retail can be saved. Waterford Crystal can have a future. These and other vulnerable jobs will be lost if the current lacklustre approach by government continues.


    Sinn Féin would not meekly accept the ongoing haemorrhage of skills and global brands from our country. The government needs to get its act together.


    Recovery will not be possible unless we sort out the banks. This requires forthright, decisive actions.
    This is what needs to happen:
    • Mispaid bonuses and overblown salaries must be retrieved, there must be a cap on salaries of banking executives and an immediate abolition of their bonuses. (best of uck with that one Gerry-boy)
    • We need to know the extent of the banks bad debts. The time for speculation as to the state of the banks balance sheets is over. (it is already acurately known)
    • We need to have the truth. An independent inspector must, on behalf of the taxpayer, establish their liabilities. (Oh right yea)
    • We need a new, robust financial regulatory system.


    Seriouly??? THese guys are fcuking idiots, but then again, so are those that vote for them.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOh-rpvjYg

    Who am I to say though, I got off this ship a long time ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭hungrypig


    smash wrote: »
    There are different levels of weak in society. There are genuinely weak people who are vulnerable, and who I think SF take advantage of as a result and that's why they target these areas. Then there are the less educated and SF target them too by telling them they are vulnerable and start talking about taxing people who are better off than them. Then with the lower class areas they canvas, comes a higher percentage of bad apples and SF target them by mentioning stuff like 1916 to appeal to their fighting nature.

    It might not be your opinion but it's mine and I know a lot of people share it.



    you are becoming increasingly offensive regarding 'vulnerable' people, bad apples..........give it a rest

    all parties here commemorate 1916, not just sf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Nodin wrote: »
    You might have been better titling your thread "My Fear Of The Working Class" .
    Working class? They don't seem to actively target people who work! :D

    hungrypig wrote: »
    all parties here commemorate 1916, not just sf
    They're the only ones who use it as a tool for no reason but to gain votes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    smash wrote: »



    Poor argument.

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭hungrypig


    it would be hard to do that given the high rates of unemployment caused by the misgovernment of ff/labour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I think the ULA are for the lowest common denominator and the misguided youth. Sinn Fein in the ROI are more for people with issues in terms of belonging. They need a cause to belong to, had a tough childhood and in general is subconsciously angry at life.

    Ive always wondered what would happen to republicans up North if they ever achieved their goal of a United Ireland. The stark reality of how hollow their lives are would sharply kick them up the backside. A lot of these extremists lives are consumed by hatred and self victimisation. When suddenly they have nobody to blame for how poor their quality of life is, who are they going to blame then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Why?

    You appoint someone to a position and you expect them to do the job. The regulator didn't do their job. Doesn't matter who appointed them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    iamthe43 wrote: »
    Look folks, at the end of the day Sinn Fein are a bunch of ****ing idiots, as are Fine Fail and Fine Gael.

    But, back to the OP, SF are a very sly and devious party. WTF do they know about running the fiscal policy of Ireland? Lets read from their economic policy and find out shall we?


    "We can build a country and an economy that creates wealth(from nowhere) and shares wealth, that is based on enterprising excellence and social solidarity. A country defined by Irish values of decency, fair play and celebration of achievement.(dont forget dancing at crossroads)


    We can do this because that is who we are(so dont usk any questions, just trust us). That is what we are about, that is what our economy must be about. We need a plan to achieve this. We need leadership and Sinn Féin can offer it. Read on to find out how...



    The government cannot simply tax or cut its way out of this crisis.


    Our number one priority at this time is to get Ireland back to work. The time for action is now.Targets for job creation must be set and met.


    All of those involved in job creation and training – statutory agencies, unions, employers and educationalists - must come together to plot the job creation pathway. We need speedy and deliberate targeting of those sectors where growth is possible – sectors like agri-food, research and development and green technology.


    We need to build the skill base to create and fill new jobs(isnt there somebody already responsible for this? FAS??? Oh no, my mistake). We need to build the critical infrastructure, schools and houses, public transport and Information Technology. (and pay for them with what? Air? Magic?)



    Business start ups must be supported by creating one stop enterprise business points offering advice, funding and expertise to entrepreneurs. (already there im afraid)

    An aggressive export Ireland strategy is urgently required. This is an area of huge potential. Currently 90% of exports from this state are from foreign owned multinationals. Irish enterprises must develop their export capacity. Government policy must drive this.


    We must fight to save existing jobs under threat. Workers and their families deserve no less. Economic recovery demands no less.


    Jobs can be saved. The jobs on the line at SR Technics can be saved. Jobs in construction and retail can be saved. Waterford Crystal can have a future. These and other vulnerable jobs will be lost if the current lacklustre approach by government continues.


    Sinn Féin would not meekly accept the ongoing haemorrhage of skills and global brands from our country. The government needs to get its act together.


    Recovery will not be possible unless we sort out the banks. This requires forthright, decisive actions.
    This is what needs to happen:
    • Mispaid bonuses and overblown salaries must be retrieved, there must be a cap on salaries of banking executives and an immediate abolition of their bonuses. (best of uck with that one Gerry-boy)
    • We need to know the extent of the banks bad debts. The time for speculation as to the state of the banks balance sheets is over. (it is already acurately known)
    • We need to have the truth. An independent inspector must, on behalf of the taxpayer, establish their liabilities. (Oh right yea)
    • We need a new, robust financial regulatory system.


    Seriouly??? THese guys are fcuking idiots, but then again, so are those that vote for them.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOh-rpvjYg

    Who am I to say though, I got off this ship a long time ago.

    How old is that, the jobs at SR technics can be saved??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭iamthe43


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    How old is that, the jobs at SR technics can be saved??

    Old or not, it proves that their clueless flag wavers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭hungrypig


    They're the only ones who use it as a tool for no reason but to gain votes.[/QUOTE]

    well sure if they ever run out of tools they should be redirected here, tools in abundance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    hungrypig wrote: »
    well sure if they ever run out of tools they should be redirected here, tools in abundance

    All the SF supporters? I know...

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭hungrypig


    smash wrote: »
    All the SF supporters? I know...

    :D

    yawn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    smash wrote: »
    You appoint someone to a position and you expect them to do the job. The regulator didn't do their job. Doesn't matter who appointed them.

    Are you serious?

    The Dept of finance turned a blind eye to what was going on because of the stupid amounts of money that was coming in.

    Dept of finance, headed by the minister for finance, who at the time was one brian cowen.

    Minister of finance, part of a government headed by one bertie ahern.

    bertie ahern, a ****ing gob****e, son of charlie.

    That's the problem here, the buck doesn't stop anywhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Happy Monday


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein types?
    You should bring that evidence to your local Garda station.

    Won't do any good.
    SF types have been given immunity from murder as part of the GFA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    smash wrote: »
    All the SF supporters? I know...

    :D

    FYI, I don't vote Sinn Fein.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    kincsem wrote: »
    If Sinn Féin had good economic policies, and integrity, I would vote for them.
    They try to appeal to the unemployed and disaffected by criticising without proposing sensible alternatives.
    Name calling fits the Sinn Féin mentality.

    This crowd lied barefaced to me fool me once and all that jazz can't be any ores can it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Are you serious?

    The Dept of finance turned a blind eye to what was going on because of the stupid amounts of money that was coming in.

    Dept of finance, headed by the minister for finance, who at the time was one brian cowen.

    Minister of finance, part of a government headed by one bertie ahern.

    bertie ahern, a ****ing gob****e, son of charlie.

    That's the problem here, the buck doesn't stop anywhere.
    There's not one qualified accountant in the dept of finance. That's to do with how the PS is run and it's shocking, and worse is that unions wouldn't allow these people be made redundant!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Got their Vote No leaflet in the post. There's a lot of stuff in it that I would consider deceptive at best. It really is targeted at people who are ignorant of the issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Got their Vote No leaflet in the post. There's a lot of stuff in it that I would consider deceptive at best. It really is targeted at people who are ignorant of the issue.

    You must have enjoyed reading that so...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    I think the ULA are for the lowest common denominator and the misguided youth. Sinn Fein in the ROI are more for people with issues in terms of belonging. They need a cause to belong to, had a tough childhood and in general is subconsciously angry at life.

    Ive always wondered what would happen to republicans up North if they ever achieved their goal of a United Ireland. The stark reality of how hollow their lives are would sharply kick them up the backside. A lot of these extremists lives are consumed by hatred and self victimisation. When suddenly they have nobody to blame for how poor their quality of life is, who are they going to blame then?

    Sinn Fein would be screwed in a united Ireland. Their north and south policies are opposites. The household charge being a prime example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Got their Vote No leaflet in the post. There's a lot of stuff in it that I would consider deceptive at best. It really is targeted at people who are ignorant of the issue.



    Expand please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    MagicSean wrote: »
    Got their Vote No leaflet in the post. There's a lot of stuff in it that I would consider deceptive at best. It really is targeted at people who are ignorant of the issue.

    You must have enjoyed reading that so...

    Is that supposed to be an insult? It's pretty lame if it is but typical of the intelligence and maturity of a sinn Fein supporter. Thanks for proving my point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Is that supposed to be an insult? It's pretty lame if it is but typical of the intelligence and maturity of a sinn Fein supporter. Thanks for proving my point.

    As I just posted, I don't vote Sinn Fein.


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