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Sinn Fein appealing to the lowest common denominator

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  • #182
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    hungrypig wrote: »
    well your op gives us a fair idea
    By pointing out that they either target the weak in society?


  • #183
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    smash wrote: »


    I'd prefer if they had real policies that could possibly work.

    So if they had 'real policies' that might be better for Ireland would you vote for them?
    Or is their history the real reason?


  • #184
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Nodin wrote: »
    So people who live in council estates are "weak"? How do you come to this conclusion.
    Would you rather I called them vulnerable, like SF do?
    Nodin wrote: »
    Why can't we have policies that take care of all of society and work?
    We can. But SF don't.
    gerryo777 wrote: »
    So if they had 'real policies' that might be better for Ireland would you vote for them?
    Or is their history the real reason?

    Couldn't care about the history any more. It's their lack of policies that would work that gets to me. I never mentioned their history.


  • #185
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    smash wrote: »
    Would you rather I called them vulnerable, like SF do?.


    You can explain why you refer to them as "weak".
    smash wrote: »
    We can. But SF don't.

    According to you. However you seem more worried about their concern for the "vulnerable" in society than anything else.


  • #186
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Varied wrote: »
    [PHP][/PHP]

    Burning the bondholders, what exactly is wrong with this policy?
    Sooooo you agree I was right and you were wrong for saying you never heard or read this? As for what's wrong with it? Where do you think the money to cover our losses and ongoing expenses will come from? Answers on a postcard please.
    They don't say tax the rich, they say they want a fairer tax system.
    Which taxes anyone above 100k per year at 48%.
    As for "telling the IMF to **** off", again I have yet to find where exactly they say that in their actual econmic policies, not a sensationalist Irish times headline.
    Gerry Adams has said this, or do you not believe your own glorious leader?

    Not enough for you? OK then here it is from their own website.

    For those on mobile folks... "Sinn Féin TD Aengus Ó Snodaigh has said the Government should throw the IMF out of the country before resigning and calling a general election."

    Obviously they don't actually say "fcuk off", but that's just you nitpicking and backtracking in the face of your ignorance of the position of the party you support.
    Try again.
    Naw. I would respectfully suggest that you break out the camomile lotion, because you've been burned. Then try again.
    Varied wrote: »
    I'm sure the wealthy minority in Ireland won't go running off to other countries with their sacks of euros over a 1% wealth tax.
    Again actually try reading the policies. You're 47% wrong. That's just on income tax above 100k. Never mind the capital gains tax among a host of others.



    This is another issue I have with SF. Their gung ho supporters tend to be remarkably ignorant of what they're actually supporting, on more than one level.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #187
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Protestant behind enemy lines wrote: »
    Looking to live amongst Protestants though. You know a good area which has a strong population of Protestants?

    Most of the south side.


  • #188
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Varied wrote: »
    Ok, so I have not heard nor seen any of this in their economic policies.

    Try again.
    Varied wrote: »
    [PHP][/PHP]

    Burning the bondholders, what exactly is wrong with this policy?

    They don't say tax the rich, they say they want a fairer tax system.

    As for "telling the IMF to **** off", again I have yet to find where exactly they say that in their actual econmic policies, not a sensationalist Irish times headline.

    Try again.


    For someone who's supposedly knows about Sinn Fein how did you not realise they wanted to burn the bondholders? :confused: Also, are you you saying the quotes from Gerry Adams in that article are made up?


  • #189
    hungrypig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭hungrypig


    smash wrote: »
    By pointing out that they either target the weak in society?

    hey smash...........maybe the 'lowest common denominators' in society should be stripped of their right to vote as you seem to doubt their ability to participate in a democratic system........would that make you happy


  • #190
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    smash wrote: »



    Couldn't care about the history any more. It's their lack of policies that would work that gets to me. I never mentioned their history.

    Fair enough, but as you can see the majority of anti-SF on here have brought up the IRA and things that happened last century.


  • #191
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Of course its the lowest common denominator, its nationalism, the lowest form of politics. Its not like they are apealing to well thought out and higher ideals, its nationalism,tribalism one step up from monkeys. I like the big end of the egg you like the narrow. Who the **** even cares.

    The left wing part of their agenda is fine, I dont agree with it but I can understand and respect it. Its the links to terrorism and thier vigilante links which I don't like.


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  • #192
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Nodin wrote: »
    You can explain why you refer to them as "weak".
    Well why do SF refer to them as vulnerable?
    Nodin wrote: »
    According to you. However you seem more worried about their concern for the "vulnerable" in society than anything else.
    Because I find it hard to accept it as any form of genuine concern. All their posters are propaganda riddled and they canvas these areas to gain votes based on fair tale policies to tax people who are better of than them.


  • #193
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Wibbs wrote: »

    Which taxes anyone above 100k per year at 48%.







    What's so wrong about that?


  • #194
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    hungrypig wrote: »
    hey smash...........maybe the 'lowest common denominators' in society should be stripped of their right to vote as you seem to doubt their ability to participate in a democratic system........would that make you happy
    Talk about clutching at straws.
    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Fair enough, but as you can see the majority of anti-SF on here have brought up the IRA and things that happened last century.
    But I didn't.


  • #195
    Protestant behind enemy lines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 ✭Protestant behind enemy lines


    They didn't seem to care about the vulnerable in society when they shot them and buried innocent Protestants in this country. Shame on them and they will have to answer for these crimes to God.


  • #196
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    smash wrote: »

    Because I find it hard to accept it as any form of genuine concern. All their posters are propaganda riddled and they canvas these areas to gain votes based on fair tale policies to tax people who are better of than them.

    Isn't it bertie's/enda's fairytale policies that have us in the mess we're in?


  • #197
    kincsem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Sinn Féin, the people who say "26 counties" and "6 counties", but never "Ireland" and "Northern Ireland".
    Sinn Féin, the anti-everything party.
    I vote the opposite to Sinn Féin.


  • #198
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Protestant behind enemy lines wrote: »
    Shame on them and they will have to answer for these crimes to God.

    you're hilarious.


  • #199
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Jesus, will someone do something about that new troll?


  • #200
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    kincsem wrote: »
    I vote the opposite to Sinn Féin.

    Independent thinking that.....


  • #201
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Isn't it bertie's/enda's fairytale policies that have us in the mess we're in?

    It's the banks giving money to everyone and the lack of a proper regulator that got us here for the most part. But there are still people doing well and surviving. SF will burn bondholders, tell the IMF etc to fúck off etc and expect the country to survive? Or expect any of the 'Elite' to be left to pick up the bill?


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  • #202
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    smash wrote: »
    Well why do SF refer to them as vulnerable?
    .

    Some people in those areas are in very low income brackets. Now what do you mean by "weak"?
    smash wrote: »
    Because I find it hard to accept it as any form of genuine concern. All their posters are propaganda riddled
    .


    O thats different. A political poster that contains propaganda....surely theres a law against such things.
    smash wrote: »
    and they canvas these areas to gain votes based on fair tale policies to tax people who are better of than them.

    According to you, its "fairy tale policies". You realise that other parties canvass there too?


  • #203
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    smash wrote: »
    It's the banks giving money to everyone and the lack of a proper regulator that got us here for the most part. But there are still people doing well and surviving. SF will burn bondholders, tell the IMF etc to fúck off etc and expect the country to survive? Or expect any of the 'Elite' to be left to pick up the bill?

    Who appointed the regulator?


  • #204
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    kincsem wrote: »
    Sinn Féin, the people who say "26 counties" and "6 counties", but never "Ireland" and "Northern Ireland".
    Sinn Féin, the anti-everything party.
    I vote the opposite to Sinn Féin.



    Fair play to you vote with the sheep.


  • #205
    Jess16
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭Jess16


    Sinn Féin supported organised murder, they're not in a position to advise anyone on anything


  • #206
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Jess16 wrote: »
    Sinn Féin supported organised murder, they're not in a position to advise anyone on anything

    Check out the history of both FG and FF.

    That is all.


  • #207
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Jess16 wrote: »
    Sinn Féin supported organised murder, they're not in a position to advise anyone on anything

    FF and FG supported the same in order for us to gain independence.


  • #208
    KeithM89_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    Protestant behind enemy lines wrote: »
    They didn't seem to care about the vulnerable in society when they shot them and buried innocent Protestants in this country. Shame on them and they will have to answer for these crimes to God.

    Banned.


  • #209
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Banned.

    Nice one Keith!:D


  • #210
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Nodin wrote: »
    Some people in those areas are in very low income brackets. Now what do you mean by "weak"?

    There are different levels of weak in society. There are genuinely weak people who are vulnerable, and who I think SF take advantage of as a result and that's why they target these areas. Then there are the less educated and SF target them too by telling them they are vulnerable and start talking about taxing people who are better off than them. Then with the lower class areas they canvas, comes a higher percentage of bad apples and SF target them by mentioning stuff like 1916 to appeal to their fighting nature.

    It might not be your opinion but it's mine and I know a lot of people share it.
    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Who appointed the regulator?

    Poor argument.


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  • #211
    Happy Monday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Happy Monday


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Banned.

    Why has he been banned?
    Jean McConville was murdered by SF types.
    A lot of evidence to suggest that Adams ordered the murder.


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